Hillary Clinton Pt. 2

  • Aired:  07/15/14
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Hillary Clinton shares her experiences as Secretary of State and describes how America's standing in the world has changed in recent years. (4:44)

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: SO, WE'RE BACK. WE'RE

TALKING WITH HILLARY CLINTON.WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS

WE FACE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT, YOUKNOW, WE HAVE THESE STRUCTURAL

PROBLEMS. >> RIGHT.

>> Jon: YOU'VE SEEN IT WHEN YOUWERE IN THE OVAL OFFICE AS FIRST

LADY.

YOU'VE SEEN IT AS SENATOR IN THELEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

>> UH-HUH, UH-HUH.

>> Jon: YOU WERE IN THECABINET.

>> YEP.

>> Jon: HAS THE BUREAUCRACY OFGOVERNMENT BECOME UNMANAGEABLE

TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS NOLONGER ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY RAISE

THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PEOPLETHAT IT IS TRYING TO DO SO?

>> WELL, JON, I THINK IT'S ACOMBINATION OF BOTH A CONGRESS

THAT IS NO LONGER FUNCTIONINGEFFECTIVELY

AND A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION

IN OUR EXECUTIVE BRANCH BECAUSEI THINK

IF PRESIDENT OBAMA WERE HERE, ITHINK HE WOULD SAY IT HAS NOT

KEPT UP WITH THE TIMES.

WE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OFAGILITY AND FLEXIBILITY AND

TECHNOLOGY.

SO THE BUREAUCRACY MOVES SLOWLY.

THE CONGRESS IS GRIDLOCKED.

SO WE HAVE A CRISIS IN OURDEMOCRACY.

AND WHAT I SAW GOING TO 112COUNTRIES IS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS

THAT WE FUNCTION IN THE UNITEDSTATES, BECAUSE PEOPLE LOOK TO

US.

OUR SYSTEM HAS BEEN THE BEACONFOR SO MANY YEARS, LIKE YOU WERE

TALKING ABOUT BEFORE.

GUESS WHAT, PEOPLE WANT TO COMEHERE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'LL

BE SAFE, THEY'LL HAVE ANOPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE TO MANAGE IT.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED COMPREHENSIVEIMMIGRATION REFORM, WHICH IS

SOMETHING THAT CONGRESS SHOULDPASS.

>> Jon: BUT IS OUR EXPECTATION,OUR EXPECTATION OF OUR PLACE IN

THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGYAS WE BECOME LESS AGILE,

TECHNOLOGY HAS DEMOCRATIZEDPOWER TO A LARGE EXTENT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Jon: YOU SEE VERY SMALLGROUPS WHO ARE ABLE TO SOW A

GREAT DEAL OF DESTRUCTIVE FORCE,AND IS AMERICA, YOU KNOW, WE

ARE A LARGE IMPERIAL POWER.

AND THE IDEA THAT WE CANEXERCISE THAT POWER IN THE SAME

MANNER AS WE SEE IN, YOU KNOWWHAT, IS OUR FOREIGN POLICY

ANYMORE?

>> YEAH, YEAH. WELL, THAT'SREALLY WHY THIS BOOK IS

SOMETHING THAT I PUT MY HEARTAND SOUL INTO, BECAUSE WE

CAN'T PRACTICE DIPLOMACY AND

DEFINE OUR FOREIGN POLICY ASLEADERS TALKING TO LEADERS

ANYMORE.

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEWORLD WORKS.

EXACTLY AS YOU SAID.

PEOPLE ARE EMPOWERED FROM THEBOTTOM UP.

AND WHAT I FOUND WHEN I BECAMESECRETARY OF STATE IS THAT SO

MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, ANDESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY

HAD NO MEMORY OF THE UNITEDSTATES LIBERATING EUROPE AND

ASIA, BEATING THE NAZIS,FIGHTING THE, YOU KNOW,

COLD WAR AND WINNING.

THAT WAS JUST ANCIENT HISTORY.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE SACRIFICESTHAT WE HAD MADE AND THE VALUES

THAT MOTIVATED US TO DO IT.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE NOT BEEN TELLING OURSTORY VERY WELL.

WE DO HAVE A GREAT STORY.

WE ARE NOT PERFECT BY ANY MEANS,BUT WE HAVE A GREAT STORY ABOUT

HUMAN FREEDOM, HUMAN RIGHTS,HUMAN OPPORTUNITY, AND LET'S GET

BACK TO TELLING IT TO OURSELVESFIRST AND FOREMOST AND BELIEVING

IT ABOUT OURSELVES AND THENTAKING THAT AROUND THE WORLD.

THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BESTANDING FOR.

>> Jon: CAN WE EXPECT OTHERCOUNTRIES TO VIEW US WITH SUCH

NUANCE WHEN WE SO CLEARLY DON'TVIEW THEM WITH NUANCE AND WITH

THAT TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING?

>> THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLYGOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE...

>> Jon: THAT'S ALL THE TIME WEHAVE.

[LAUGHTER]>> BECAUSE?

>> Jon: BECAUSE.

>> BECAUSE WE DID A MUCH BETTERJOB TELLING THE WORLD WHO WE

WERE BACK IN THE COLD WAR.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SIMPLER JOB,TO BE FAIR.

WE HAD THE SOVIET UNION.

WE HAD THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAD A BIG INFORMATION EFFORT.

WE SENT, WE SENT TALENT, WE SENTALL KINDS OF POETS AND NOVELISTS

AND ROCK STARS.

I REMEMBER WHEN VACLAV HAVEL,THE GREAT DISSIDENT AND THE

FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE CZECHREPUBLIC TOLD ME THAT LOU REED

HAD BEEN HIS INSPIRATION.

AMERICAN CULTURE, AMERICANIDEAS PERMEATED THE WORLD.

WELL, FAST FORWARD.

THAT ENDED, AND WE KIND OFTHOUGHT, OKAY, FINE, END OF

HISTORY, DEMOCRACY WON.

YOU KNOW THAT STORY.

AND IN FACT, WE WITHDREW FROMTHE INFORMATION ARENA.

AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENEDINITIALLY WITH UKRAINE.

RUSSIAN MEDIA WAS MUCH MOREEFFECTIVE IN SORT OF TELLING A

STORY: IT WASN'T TRUE, BUT THEYKEPT REPEATING IT OVER AND OVER

AGAIN.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO GET BACKTO A CONSENSUS IN OUR OWN

COUNTRY ABOUT WHO WE ARE ANDWHAT WE STAND FOR, AND THEN

GET OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW,TELL THAT STORY.

>> Jon: "HARD CHOICES." IT'S ONTHE BOOKSHELVES NOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL TALKA LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE WEB.

SECRETARY HILLARY CLINTON.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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