Joe Scarborough

  • Aired:  11/12/13
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Joe Scarborough addresses the roots of the modern Republican party's more extreme elements. (6:34)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK MY GUEST

TONIGHT COHOST OF MSNBC'SMORNING JOE HIS NEW BOOK IS

CALLED THE RIGHT PATH.

AGAIN, WELCOME BACK TO THEPROGRAM JOE SCARBOROUGH, JOSEPH.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]HOW ARE YOU?

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US SOLATE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GET UP AT4:00 IN THE MORNING.

>> IT'S AWFUL.

>> Jon: IT'S A TERRIBLE THING.

>> IT'S HORRIBLE.

TALKING ABOUT THE SHOW OR MEGETTING UP AT 4:00 IN THE

MORNING.

>> Jon: THE SHOW IS LOVELY.

I WATCH THE SHOW.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW.

>> IF YOU DID, WOULD YOU LOVEIT.

>> Jon: EISENHOWER AND REAGAN,IN MY BELIEF WOULD NOT WIN

PRIMARIES IN THE REPUBLICANPARTY ANYMORE, THEY WOULD BE

CONSIDERED COMMUNISTS ESPECIALLYEISENHOWER AFTER HIS MILITARY

INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX COMMENT WOULDBE DRUMMED OUT.

TED CRUZ WOULD RUN A CRAZY,GENERAL EISENHOWER MADE OUT WITH

OSAMA BIN LADEN.

[ LAUGHTER ]THOSE GUYS WOULD -- THEY WOULD

NEVER SURVIVE IN THIS CURRENTMANIFESTATION OF THE REPUBLICAN

PARTY.

>> I ACTUALLY THINK THEY WOULDIF THEY SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE

MORE EXTREME ELEMENTS.

DURING THE 2012 CAMPAIGN, I KEPTSAYING THERE WERE SO MANY SISTER

SOLJA MOMENTS FOR MITT ROMNEY TOSTAND UP AGAINST.

TO STAND DOWN THE CRAZIES ON THEFAR RIGHT OR STAND DOWN THE

CRAZIES IN THE CONSERVATIVEENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX AND HE

NEVER DID IT.

THE THING YOU FIND IN POLITICSIS IF YOU STAND UP TO THE MORE

EXTREME ELEMENTS YOU AREREWARDED NOT ONLY BY YOUR PEOPLE

BUT THIS IS SHOCKING TO SOMEPEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

RIGHT NOW, INDEPENDENTS ANDDEMOCRATS MAY EVEN VOTE FOR YOU.

THAT USED TO BE A GOOD THING IKETHOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD THING.

REAGAN THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD.

WE USED TO WIN 49 OUT OF 50STATES.

>> Jon: BUT YOU USE USED TONOT BE SO CRAZY.

>> WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CRAZY.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: YOU CAN TALK THE

STRATEGY.

WHEN YOU SAY THEY SHOULD SPEAKOUT AGAINST THEM.

THEY MADE THEM. THIS WAS NOTHAPPENSTANCE, THE RISE

OF TEA PARTY AND ANGRY RIGHT.

KARL ROVE THERE WAS THAT MEMO IN2004, MATTHEW DOWD WROTE ABOUT

IT.

HE DESIGNED THIS TO APPEAL TOWHAT

HE CALLED THE ANGER POINTS.

HE DECIDED THAT THERE WERE NOMORE MODERATES LEFT.

YOU CAN'T REALLY WIN ON THAT I'MGOING TO GET PEOPLE RILED UP.

I'M GOING TO PLAY TO THEIR ANGERAND TO THEIR FEAR.

FOX NEWS DID THE SAME THING.

THEY MADE THESE PEOPLE.

>> LOOK WHAT HAPPENED THOUGH.

KARL ROVE WAS THE FIRST PERSONTO EVER SAY WE'RE GOING TO WIN A

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BY GOINGTO THE HARD RIGHT.

>> Jon: NO, NIXON.

>> NIXON SAID YOU GO TO THERIGHT IN THE PRIMARY AND IN THE

GENERAL ELECTION GO TO THECENTER.

>> Jon: THE SOUTHERN STRATEGYOF NIXON WAS TO TAKE THE

DISAFFECTED OLD DEMOCRATICVOTERS THAT WERE

BIGOTED, THE OLD DIXIE-CRATS,PLAY ON THAT ANGER

DIVIDETHEM AND GET THEM TO THE PO

>> NIXON GOT A HIGHER PERCENTAGEOF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS THAN

ANY REPUBLICAN HAS GOTTEN INYEARS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD PUTTHE SOUTHERN STRATEGY ON NIXON.

I DO SAY A STRONG LEADER THATSPEAKS OUT AGAINST THE EXTREMES

WHETHER IT'S BILL CLINTON ORWHETHER IT'S THE REPUBLICANS.

WE CAN SAY CHRIS CHRISTIE IN NEWJERSEY FRANKLY DOESN'T GIVE A

DAMN WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HIMON BLOGS.

OCCASIONALLY HE WILL YELL ATPEOPLE.

>> Jon: TEACHERS WHO COME UPTO HIM AND ASK QUESTIONS.

HEY, MAN, HOW ABOUT THE TEACHERSUNION, GET OUT OF HER -- HERE

YOU SON OF A BITCH --THE BIGGER POINT IS IF YOU ARE A

STRONG LEADER AND YOU CAN CALLOUT CRAZY YOU'LL GET REWARDED.

NOT ONLY BY INDEPENDENTS ANDDEMOCRATS BUT YOUR OWN PARTY.

THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN A LONGTIME.

DWIGHT EISENHOWER, HE HAD THECONFIDENCE AND THE POWER TO PULL

IT OFF.

RONALD REAGAN WAS A GUY.

>> Jon: IT WAS A DIFFERENTMENTALITY.

NIXON, EISENHOWER, NOT REAGAN TOTHE SAME EXTENT, BUT THOSE WERE

PEOPLE THAT BELIEVED IN THEPOWER OF GOVERNMENT TO DO GREAT

THINGS FOR PEOPLE.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENTMANIFESTATION.

IT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE -- IT'SLIKE -- I LIKEN IT TO THIS.

IF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THECOUNCIL OF CARDINALS, LET'S SAY

35% OF THAT WERE ATHEISTS.

RIGHT.

>> THEY WERE LIKE LET US RUN THECATHOLIC CHURCH WE KNOW WHAT TO

DO.

>> MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA.

>> IT'S THE TYPE OF NIHILISM YOUGET.

>> HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.

A NEW DEMOCRAT ELECTED IN 1992.

WE ALL CALLED SATAN. WE GOTELECTED FOR DOING THAT IN 1994,

AMERICANS SAID YOU WENT TOO FARLEFT.

WE COME ALONG WE'RE SUPPOSED TOPULL HIM TO THE CENTER WE GO

TOO FAR RIGHT WE REELECT BILLCLINTON. YOU TALK ABOUT KARLL

ROVE IN 2004, WE SAW HOW WELL KARL ROVE DID IN

2012.

I DON'T THINK HE COULD PLAN THATFAR AHEAD TO CREATE THE TEA

PARTY IN 2010.

THAT WAS A CREATION OF WHATHAPPENED IN 2009 AND 2010.

NOT JUST WITH BARACK OBAMA BUTWITH GEORGE W. BUSH A BIG

SPENDING REPUBLICAN WHO SPENT USINTO DEBT.

HE GAVE US MEDICARE PART d.

>> Jon: BUT THEY DON'T EVERTALK ABOUT IT IN THAT MATTER.

THEY NEVER SAY THEDEFICIT IS FROM BUSH.

>> THAT PISSES ME OFF.

I WAS HERE IN 2004 HIS A BOOKBEFORE THE ELECTION IN 2004 I

SAID BUSH IS BANKRUPTING US.

HIS FOREIGN POLICY IS GOING TOBANKRUPT US.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE NEXTELECTION AND GOING TO WRECK THE

ELECONOMY. I WAS CALLED A RINOETHEN FOR WARNING ABOUT BIG

GOVERNMENT REPUBLICANISM.

NOW I'M BEING ATTACKED FORWRITING THINGS LIKE THIS SAYING

WE SERIOUSLY WE PROBABLYSHOULDN'T DRIVE THE BEER TRUCK

OFF THE CLIFF.

I'M SAYING THE SAME EXACT THING.

I'M AGAINST BIG GOVERNMENTREPUBLICANISM.

>> Jon: YOU ARE SAYING THEPAST TEN YEARS HAVE ALL BEEN

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO YOU?

>> EXACTLY.

EXACTLY.

AT LEAST THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

NOW YOU KNOW!

NOT YOU.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE EVERINFLUENCED YOU BUT IT'S COMING

TOGETHER, ISN'T IT?

>> Jon: NO!

THE RIGHT PATH IT'S ON THEBOOKSHELVES NOW.

MR. JOSEPH SCARBOROUGH

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