Exclusive - Jehane Noujaim Extended Interview Pt. 2

  • Aired:  December 4, 2013
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In this exclusive, unedited interview, Jehane Noujaim discusses the harsh aftermath of the Egyptian Revolution. (5:24)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: HAD TO COME BACK FROM

THE COMMERCIAL.

>> IT HAPPENS.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK THE SQUAREAVAILABLE ON

NETFLIX AND SELECT CITIES.

YOU WERE SAYING AHMED WHO IS ONEOF CHARACTERS, YOU SAID YOU

CANNOT SHOW IT YET IN EGYPT,THIS FILM THIS IS INSPIRING

PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

WHY IS THAT?

>> WE'RE WAITING FOR PERMISSION.

IT'S CURRENTLY IN CENSORSHIP.

HE SAID SOMETHING INCREDIBLE, HESAID I'M GETTING THE TWEETS.

I'M HEARING -- I'M READING ALLOF THE ARTICLES, THE ACCOLADES

COMING OUT ABOUT THE FILM, THEFACT THAT WE WERE SHORT LISTED,

ALL OF THIS STUFF IS GOING TOMAKE THE FILM ABSOLUTELY

UNSTOPPABLE.

IT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING YOUWERE DOING BY PUTTING BASSEM ON

THIS INTERNATIONAL STAGE

SAYING COMEDY IS IMPORTANT.

THE FILM IS DOING THE SAMETHING.

THE SUPPORT FROM YOU GUYS NOW --[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

THANK YOU.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: LET ME ASK YOU THIS --

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]-- IN TERMS OF THE -- HAS IT

BEEN SURPRISING?

SO YOU SEE THE HOPES OF THEPEOPLE UNDER AN AUTOCRATIC

RULE FOR 30 YEARS.

THEY BREAK THROUGH THIS WITHTHIS INCREDIBLE DEMONSTRATION IN

THE STREETS.

DEMOCRACY LEADS THEM TO ABROTHERHOOD LED GOVERNMENT WHICH

THEY FEEL BECOMES AUTOCRATIC INITS OWN RIGHT, STARTS TO PUT

ISLAMISTS INTO POSITIONS.

THEY TAKE TO THE STREETS AGAIN.

BY THE MILLIONS MORE PEOPLE THANIN THE HISTORY OF HISTORIES.

>> MORE THAN AGAINST MUBARAK.

>> Jon: AND DRIVE HIM OUT.

>> RIGHT.

>> Jon: THERE'S THIS EUPHORIAAGAIN AND THEN THE MILITARY

COMES IN AND IT FEELS NOW FROMAN OUTSIDE OBSERVER CLOSER TO

THE MUBARAK ERA THAN IT HAD ATANY TIME SINCE THE REVOLUTIONT

STARTED.

THAT THE SENSE THAT PEOPLE HAVETHERE AS WELL?

>> IT'S A REALLY DARK TIME NOW.

PEOPLE ARE BEING ARRESTED.

WE'VE HAD A WHOLE REVOLUTION.

OUR FILM HAS NOT PASSEDCENSORSHIP.

PEOPLE ARE TAKEN FROM THEIRHOMES AND ARRESTED, YOU KNOW, IN

WAYS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELYDESPICABLE.

THE HOPE IS AND THE THEPOSITIVITY I FEEL OR THE HOPE

THAT I FEEL IS WATCHING THESTAYING POWER OF THE PEOPLE

CONTINUING TO FIGHT, THAT ARECONTINUING TO BE IN THE STREETS.

JUST THE OTHER DAY THIS PROTESTLAW WAS PASSED.

80 PEOPLE WENT DOWN TO THESTREETS, MANY OF WHOM WERE

ARRESTED.

THEY DECIDED TO RELOOK AT THEPROTEST LAW.

IT DOESN'T TAKE 80 MILLIONPEOPLE TO CHANGE A COUNTRY.

IT TAKES A DEDICATED FEW TOCONTINUE PUSHING, TO CONTINUE

PUSHING AND THAT'S WHAT ISHAPPENING.

>> Jon: WHEN DO YOU THINKTHERE WILL BE A CHANGE -- THAT

PERSON IS VERY INSPIRED.

[ LAUGHTER ]WHEN DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE

A CHANGE OF MENTALITY IN TERMSOF THE RULING PARTIES THAT

UNDERSTANDS THAT ALLOWINGDISSENT IS STRENGTH NOT

WEAKNESS?

THAT'S THE DISCONNECT FOR ME?

WHEN I SEE THEM ARREST BASIM ORTAKE THE BLOGGERS AND ACTIVISTS

AND THEY ARREST THEM FOR JUSTEXPRESSING THEIR OPINION AS A

SHOW OF STRENGTH.

>> IT'S A WEAK MOVE.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BEUNDERSTOOD?

>> THEY DON'T GET IT.

IT'S AN OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS.

BUT I THINK IT'S JUST THINGS --PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING

AND KEEP PUSHING AND KEEPPUSHING.

THAT'S WHAT STARTS TO CHANGETHINGS.

LOOK AT THE CIVIL RIGHTSMOVEMENT, RIGHT?

WE -- IT WAS MESSY AND IT WASLONG.

ALL CHANGE, ALL MOVEMENTS AREMESSY AND BREAK THINGS APART,

RIGHT.

WE'RE FIGHTING FOR THE CHANGE WEFOUGHT FOR BACK THEN.

SO THE KEY IS NOT GIVING UP.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE -- IDON'T THINK WE'LL KNOW THE

RESULTS OF THIS REVOLUTION FOR AVERY LONG TIME BUT A

CONSCIOUSNESS HAS CHANGED.

PEOPLE IN THE STREET WILL NOLONGER SAY OH, IT'S OKAY TO JUST

ARREST THAT PERSON AND TORTURETHEM.

THERE'S A CONSCIOUSNESS THAT HASCHANGED.

IF YOU ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS BEENIN THE STREETS HAS THIS ALL BEEN

FOR NOTHING?

PEOPLE WOULD SAY NO.

PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED OVER THELAST THREE YEARS.

A CONSCIOUSNESS ABOUT WHAT ISRIGHT AND WRONG HAS CHANGED.

THAT'S HUGE.

>> Jon: IS THAT THROUGHOUT THEENTIRE CULTURE OR MORE OF A

GENERATIONAL ISSUE.

AND AS THAT GENERATION COMES TOPROMINENCE THAT IS WHEN IT WILL

MOVE TO THE FORE?

>> MY PERSONAL OPINION IS IT'S AGENERATIONAL ISSUE.

WE NEED A WHOLE NEW GENERATIONTO COME IN -- FOR THINGS TO

REALLY CHANGE.

IT'S A LONG FIGHT.

THERE'S A LONG FIGHT AHEAD OFUS.

>> Jon: I WISH EVERYBODY THEBEST.

I WAS THERE A WEEK OR SO BEFORETHE LATEST JUNE UPRISING.

THE ENERGY ON THE STREETS ANDBOY IS IT AN INSPIRATIONALAND

PLACE.

>> I WAS THERE WHEN YOU WERETHERE.

AFTER I WAS ARRESTED.

>> Jon: YOU WERE THAT LADYTHAT HAD JUST BEEN ARRESTED.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> Jon: THERE I WAS SITTINGTHERE EATING THE HUMMUS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH ANDCONGRATULATIONS.

BOY, WHAT A WONDERFUL PIECE OFART THIS IS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Jon: THE SQUARE ISAVAILABLE ON NETFLIX.

SELECT CITIES JANUARY 17.

JEHANE NOUJAIM.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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