Michael Beschloss

  • Aired:  11/02/10
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Michael Beschloss believes the midterm election results will give Obama the opportunity to deal with Republicans in Congress. (5:57)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK TONIGHT.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, A RENOWNED

PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE

PROGRAM MICHAEL BESCHLOSS.

SIR, HOW ARE YOU, SIR?

THANKS FOR COMING.

PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.

( APPLAUSE )

TELL ME A STORY.

THE AS WHOOPING THAT HAS BEEN

DELIVERED TONIGHT TO THE

DEMOCRATS, THE MID-TERMS

TRADITIONALLY, WHATEVER RULING

PARTY IS THERE, LOSE SOME SEATS.

DO THEY USUALLY LOSE THIS MANY

SEATS?

>> NO, THEY DON'T, ALTHOUGH IT'S

HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND I

THINK ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT

IS THAT SOMEONE TOLD ME THERE

MAY BE A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE

AUDIENCE WHO ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT

TONIGHT.

ANYONE UNHAPPY WITH THE

REPUBLICAN VICTORY?

I GUESS THERE ARE A FEW.

>> Jon: THAT GENTLEMAN SEEMS

VERY HAPPY.

THAT WOMAN HAS A THUMBS-DOWN.

>> THIS IS NOT FOR HIM.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HISTORY, THE

THREE PEOPLE, THE THREE

PRESIDENTS IN RECENT TIMES WHO

HAVE HAD MID-TERM LOSSES LIKE

THIS HAVE BEEN TRUMAN,

EISENHOWER AND BILL CLINTON.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GOT

REELECTED.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: SO... SO... SO YOUR

THOUGHT IS WHAT A GREAT NIGHT

FOR BARACK OBAMA.

>> SORT OF LIKE WHAT THE

HOLLYWOOD AGENT SAID WHEN ELVIS

DIED, "GREAT CAREER MOVE."

>> Jon: WHAT DID TRUMAN...

THEY'RE PROJECTING 60 SEATS.

IS THIS THE LARGEST, SECOND

LARGEST, THIRD LARGEST?

WHAT DO WE STAND IN

>> IT'S SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE.

THE THING ABOUT TRUEMAN, 1946,

HE LOST BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS,

FIRST TIME TO THE DEMOCRATS IN

16 YEARS, AND HE WAS PRETTY

PHILOSOPHICAL.

HE WAS COMING BACK THE

WASHINGTON ON A TRAIN, HAD A BIG

POKER GAME, DID NOT LISTEN TO

THE RETURNS AND GOT BACK HERE...

>> Jon: COULD YOU ROLL THAT BY

ME ONE MORE TIME.

HE DID NOT LISTEN TO THE

ELECTORAL RETURNS BECAUSE HE WAS

PLAYING CARDS.

>> I THINK THAT'S IT.

>> Jon: HOW DO YOU THINK THAT

WOULD FLY IN TODAY'S

ENVIRONMENT?

>> WELL, SORT OF THEN MAYBE A

CONNECTION TO AQUA BUDDA.

>> Jon: PROBABLY RIGHT.

I TRIED THAT EARLIER, THEY'RE

NOT BIG ON THE AQUA BUDDA STUFF.

WHEN HE GOT BACK AND HExD REALIZED

HE LOST, WHAT DID HE THINK?

>> THIS WAS A GUY WHO WAS SECURE

IN HIMSELF.

AND HE WROTE HIS WIFE, "AS FAR

AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M GOING TO

DO WHATEVER I FEEL LIKE FOR NEXT

TWO YEARS AND TO HELL WITH

EVERYONE."

( APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: AND THAT'S HOW... DID

HE AT THAT POINT BEGIN TO LEAD?

IS THE MISTAKE THAT PRESIDENTS

MAKE IN THEIR FIRST TWO YEARS,

DO THEY LEAD LESS?

HERE'S THE THING I WANT TO ASK

YOU ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

HE HAS BEEN A LEGISLATOR.

NOW HE'S AN EXECUTIVEMENT THEY

ARE DIFFERENT POSITIONS.

>> THEY ARE.

>>

>> Jon: HAS HE EXECUTIVED LIKE

A LEGISLATOR AND THEN DOES HE

USE THESE NEXT TWO YEARS TO BE

NOR OF AN EXECUTIVE?

AND THERE IS A QUESTION IN THERE

SOMEWHERE.

>> I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE YOU

CAN ANSWER WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE.

I THINK THE THINK ABOUT OBAMA IS

HE KNEW THAT HE MIGHT JUST HAVE

TWO YEARS, SO HE SAID, IF I'M

ONLY GOING TO HAVE TWO YEARS

WITH CONTROL OF CONGRESS, GET

HEALTH CARE, GET SOME OF THESE

OTHER THINGS, EVEN IF IT MEANS I

MIGHT NOT GETxD REELECTED.

>> Jon: DID HE GO AFTER THE

STRUCTURE OF WASHINGTON?

IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT HAS NOT

BEEN THE CASE.

>> HE SURE TRIED, AND

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GREAT

RALLY LAST SATURDAY.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )ñr

>> Jon: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

HOW ABOUT THAT AMERICA.

THAT'S SOME COUNTRY.

>> IT IS.

BUT...

>> Jon: I PANDERED.

YOU GAVE ME NOTHING.

>> IT'S THE GUY IN THE BACK

ROOM.

>> Jon: I KNOW.

>> THE BEST THING YOU SAID WAS

ABOUT PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY

WORKING TOGETHER.

BARACK OBAMA SAID THAT IN 2008.

IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

NOW HE'S GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO

TRY TO DEAL WITH REPUBLICANS IN

CONGRESS AND PERHAPS...

>> Jon: IN OUR LIVES WE DON'T

NECESSARILYÑi SELF-IDENTIFY AS

STRONGLY DEMOCRATIC OR

REPUBLICAN, WILL BE RAL,

CONSERVATIVE, PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT

IT ASIDE TO GET THINGS DONE.

YOU THINK IN WASHINGTON THEY

LOSE SIGHT OF THAT BECAUSE OF

HOW FOCUSED THEY ARE ON THE

HORSE RACE, ON THE STRATEGY, AND

IT'S VERY EASY TO LOSE SIGHT OF

THAT.

THE CURRENCY OF WASHINGTON IS

ABOUT POLITICAL POWER.

THE CURRENCY OF AMERICA IS ABOUT

RUNNING YOUR LIFE.

>> RIGHT, TOTALLY AGREE.

>> AND THE OTHER THING IS IN

WASHINGTON UNLIKE AMERICA, THE

WAY YOU RAISE MONEY IS CONFLICT.

YOU DON'T SEE THE REPUBLICANS

WRITING LETTERS TO THEIR DONORS.

NANCY PELOSI IS A REALLY NICE

LADY AND A PATRIOT BUT WE

DISAGREE.

IT'S NANCY PELOSI IS SAINTIAN.

-- SATAN.

>> Jon: AND THEN YOU GET

MONEY.

VERY INTERESTING.

A LOT OF THE FIRE BRANDS LAWS.

GRAYSON LOST.

I BELIEVE JOE WILSON MAY BE IN

DANGER OF LOSING, THE "YOU LIE"

GENTLEMAN AND THE GUY WHO CALLED

HIS OPPONENT THE TALIBAN.

BOTH I THINK TONIGHT GOING DOWN

TO DEFEAT.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY?

>> IT'S A NICE THING I THINK

WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS

LISTENING TO YOUR SPEECH LAST

SATURDAY.

>> OH, COME ON.

THAT'S NOT... NO, NO.

( APPLAUSE )

YOU ASK THE QUESTION.

>>

>> Jon: I ASK THE QUESTION,

AND YOU LIE TO MY FACE.

SO TOMORROW YOU WAKE UP YOU'RE,

A DEMOCRAT, HOW DO YOU LOOK

YOURSELVES IN THE MIRROR?

YOU PACK A LITTLE EXTRA ORANGE

IN YOUR SUITCASE, HEAD OUT TO

WORK AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO?

>> AND PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF

THE OTHER.

THE ONE THING DEMOCRATS HAVE TO

WORRY ABOUT IS WHEN THIS HAPPEN,

PUBLIC IN THE HOUSE WILL HAVE

THE POWER OF SUBPOENA.

AND THERE IS A RECORD OF AN

OPPOSITION PARTY GOING AFTER A

PRESIDENT IN POWER.

>> Jon: HELLO, LAWYERS' FEES.

WELL, THAT'S A BYE.

MICHAEL, ALWAYS NICE TO SEE YOU.

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