The Two Faces of Illegal Immigration

  • Aired:  10/10/13
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Aasif Mandvi learns that America is worse for illegal immigrants than illegal immigrants are for America. (5:49)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

REMEMBER WHEN, REMEMBER WHENOUR COUNTRY USED TO HAVE A

GOVERNMENT?

WELL, THAT COULD COME BACKSOME DAY.

AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE'LLBE LOOKING AT A LITTLE ISSUE

KNOWN AS IMMIGRATION REFORM.

AASIF MANDVI REPORTS.

>> SOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSETHINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR

CONGRESS TO FINALLY ENACTSWEEPING IMMIGRATION REFORM.

GOING SO FAR AS TO GETARRESTED FOR THE CAUSE

BUT CALMER VOICES HAVE SOMEREASONABLE CONCERNS.

IMMIGRATION EXPERT DENNISMICHAEL LYNCH.

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARECOMING HERE WHO WANT TO COME

TO CUT YOUR LAWN AND HAVE ABETTER LIFE.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOWANT TO CUT YOUR THROAT.

>> YES, NOT JUST ONE TYPE OFILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, THERE ARE

TWO.

>> AN THEY'RE IMPOSSIBLE TOTELL APART.

>> IN THE EVENT THAT AMNESTYIS OFFERED TO THESE ILLEGALS

THEN WHATHAPPENS TO AMERICA, WE COULD

FIND OURSELVES WITH ANOTHER9/11.

>> OKAY.

LISTEN, STOP SOFT SELLING,GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT.

>> WE COULD SUFFER ANOTHER9/11, SOME OF THEM HAVE

MACHINE GUNS, OTHER ONES HAVEBIG HUGE PACKAGES IN THE WAY

OF DRUGS, YOUR DAUGHTER ORMY DAUGHTER IS BEING RAPED

BY A GANG OF THUGS.

>> I DON'T WANT BY KIDSGETTING HIT BY ANYBODY WHO

IS DRIVING A CAR DRUNK,ESPECIALLY SOMEBODY WHO

SHOULDN'T BE HERE, WHODOESN'T HAVE A LICENCE.

>> RIGHT.

IF YOUR KID WAS KILLEDBY A DRUNK DRIVER IT WOULD

BE WORSE FOR IF YOU THATPERSON WAS ILLEGAL.

>> IT WOULD BE.

THAT PERSON WAS HEREILLEGALLY I WOULD FIND THAT

TO BE A PROBLEM.

>> IT IS A PROBLEM.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU NOTOVERSTATING IT.

>> THE DANGER IS REAL.

BUT WHERE IS THE GREATESTTHREAT?

>> EVERYWHERE, FROM SEA TOSHINING SEA.

>> SO I VISITED A TYPICALAMERICAN COMMUNITY.

SUFFERING UNDER A RECENTINCREASE IN ILLEGAL

IMMIGRATION.

DAYTON OHIO CITY MANAGER TIMRIORDON.

>> THE INFLUX OF IMMIGRANTSINTO DAYTON HAS BEEN A GOOD

THING.

>> WHAT?

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEYWE GET IN TAX MONEYS FROM

THE IMMIGRANTS. THEYCREATE JOBS.

THEY CREATE BUSINESSES.

>> FOCUS ON THE RIGHT THING.

THEY'RE ILLEGAL.

>> I GUESS I'D SAY TO YOUFOCUS ON THE RIGHT THING.

THEY'RE TAX PAYINGMEMBERS WE DON'T ASK ANY

QUESTIONS ABOUT IMMIGRATION.

>> IDIOTS.

DAYTON EVEN HAS A PROGRAMBASED ON NOTHING BUT THE

CITY'S ECONOMIC EXPERIENCETHAT ENCOURAGES THE FOREIGN

MENACE TO MOVE THERE.

DON'T THEY REALIZE THERISKS?

>> WE KNOW THAT WE'RE MORELIKELY TO HAVE ANOTHER 9/11

OR OUR DAUGHTERS TO BE RAPEDIF WE LET UNDOCUMENTED

IMMIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY.

>> WE CATCH THE PEOPLE WHOARE THE BAD PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO SOLVE PROBLEMSAND HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

>> YOU'RE THE ONE CREATINGPROBLEMS.

I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH ASIMPLE SOLUTION THAT IS

BASED ON FEAR AND HATE.

>> TRUTH IS, STUDIES SHOWILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO MAKE A

FEW BILLION SMALLCONTRIBUTIONS TO STATE AND

LOCAL ECONOMIES EACH YEAR.

BUT OPPONENTS OF REFORM LIKEDENNIS LYNCH DON'T BUY IT.

>> WHAT ABOUT ALL THEREPORTS THAT SAY ILLEGALS

BENEFIT THE ECONOMY.

>> I DON'T LIKE TO READ THEREPORTS.

I'M NOT A REPORTS GUY.

>> THE REPORTS BE DAMNED.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION COSTS AGREAT DEAL OF MONEY.

>> IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

>> THAT SIMPLE.

>> YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULDBE MORE COMPLICATED WITH

MILLIONS OF PEOPLEINTERACTING WITH THE ECONOMY

IN UNTRACKED WAYS.

YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINKTHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SIT

DOWN WITH A CALCULATOR,FIGURE THIS OUT.

>> YOU DON'T NEED ACALCULATOR.

>> REALLY?

>> NO.

I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH.

I GO DOWN TO THE BORDER.

I HIDE IN PLACES SUCH ASBUSHES, TO SEE WHAT IS

COMING OVER, HOW MANY OFTHEM ARE COMING OVER.

AND THE NUMBERS AREBREATHTAKINGLY SCARY.

>> WITH HIS OWN EYES AND HISOWN TINY BINOCULARS DENNIS

LYNCH HAS SEEN THE TRUTHFIRSTHAND.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE BADFOR AMERICA.

JUST ASK AN EXPERT LIKESOCIALIOLOGIST DAVE COURT.

>> I THINK YOU ARE MAKING ANINCORRECT CONCLUSION.

IMMIGRANTS AREN'T BAD FORAMERICA.

BUT IN SOME WAYS AMERICA ISBAD FOR IMMIGRANTS.

>> IN WHAT WAYS?

>> THEY ARE PICKING UP BADCULTURAL PRACTICES.

AND THEY'RE GETTING FATTER,LIKE AMERICANS.

THEY'RE GETTING HIGH RATESOF DIABETES LIKE AMERICANS

AND THEY'RE GETTING HIGHRATES OF HEART DISEASE LIKE

AMERICANS.

>> OH MY GOD!

THIS TURNS THE WHOLE THINGON ITS HEAD.

>> TURNS OUT AMERICA ISTERRIBLE FOR THE HEALTH OF

IMMIGRANTS.

THIS IS THE SOLUTION LYNCHIS LOOKING FOR.

>> DID YOU KNOW THAT AMERICAIS MAKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

FATTER AND LESS HEALTHIER?

LISTEN, HEART DISEASE MIGHTDO WHAT A FENCE HAS NOT

BEEN ABLE TO, MAYBE YOUSHOULD WORK WITH THAT.

>> OKAY.

MY MESSAGE IS NOTANTI-IMMIGRANT.

IT'S PRO-AMERICAN.

>> COME ON!

IT'S GENIUS!

INSTEAD OF SCARING AMERICANSABOUT IMMIGRATION REFORM, WE

USE FEAR TACTICS ON THEIMMIGRANTS THEMSELVES.

I SET OUT TO SCARE AWAY AGROUP OF WANT A BE CITIZENS

IN PLEDGE FORM.

>> ONE NATION.

>> ONE NATION.

>> UNDER MELTED CHEESE.

>> UNDER MELTED CHEESE.

>> INDIGESTIBLE.

>> INDIGESTIBLE.

>> WITH EXTRA LARGE SODA ANDFRIES FOR ONLY 20 CENTS MORE.

>> AND WITH EXTRA LARGE SODAAND FRIES FOR ONLY 20 CENTS

MORE.

>> YES, TO SAVE ALL THAT WECHERISH, LYNCH AND HIS

ALLIES KNOW THAT EXAGGERATEDFEAR IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'REHERE.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE FOUND KORANS ANDPRAYER RUGS IN THE DESERT.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS THEBIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE

FACING THE COUNTRY.

>> ARE YOU SURE THE PROBLEMIS REALLY ILLEGALS?

BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE REACTIONARYFEAR BASED RHETORIC AND THE

INABILITY TO COME UP WITHMIDDLE OF THE ROAD SOLUTIONS FOR

COMPLEX PROBLEMS.

>> -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

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