Michael Steele Pt. 2

  • Aired:  02/01/11
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After the Republican victory in the midterms, Michael Steele feels a little like a coach who took his team to the playoffs and yet was canned afterwards. (7:12)

MICHAEL STEELE, WE FINALLY GOT

YOU ON THE PROGRAM.Q/z

WHY COULD WE NOTjF BRING YOU?

WE TRIED SO DESPERATELY WHEN

YOU FIRSTç"BECAMExD RNC.

THEN ALLr

THOUGH THEÑi STEELfá CURTAIN CAME

DOWN AND WE COULD NOT GET

AHOLD OF YOU.

>> I'VE NOT BEEN KNOWN FOR

STAYING ON THE TALKING POINTS.

I KIND OF GET INTO THE FLOWÑi OF

THINGS AND I'M A VERYfá

STRAIGHTFORWARD SHOOTER.

I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT I

THINK.

I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY IN THIS9!

JOB THAT'S NOT ALWAYS WELCOM

>> Jon: WHO WOULD TELL YOU

THAT?

WHO WOULD COME TOw3 YOU AND SAY.

>> MYw+ COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE.

I'D GET A PHONE CALL FROM

LEADERSHIP ON THE HILLçóxD OR, YOU

KNOW, STAFF.lp

THOSE ANONYMOUS NAMES AND

PLACES AND FACES THATe1 YOU

HEAR.

>> Jon: THEY WOULD SAY,ñr

MICHAEL, PLEASE, WHATEVER YOU

DO, DON'T GO OUTSIDE?

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> Jon: STAY WITH US.

>> STAY WITH US.

>> Jon: THIS RECENTxD ELECTION

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD AN ENORMOUS

VICTORY IN THEok MIDTERMS.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE A COACH THAT

TOOK YOUR TEAM TO THE

PLAY-OFFS AND YET WAS CANNED

AFTERWARDS?

>> A LITTLE BIT.

ABSOLUTELY.xD

WE WORKED VERY HARD.

REMEMBER WHERE WE WERExD IN THE

BEGINNING OFxD 2009.

TWO YEARS AGO AT THIS TIMEÑi

WHEN I BECAME CHAIRMAN, WE

WEREM6| PARTY THAT WAS OUT OF

POWER.

WE HAD BEEN BASICALLY

WHIPSAWED AND TO USE THE

PRESIDENT'S TERM SHELLACKED INÑi

'06 AND '08.

WE COULDN'T FIND PEOPLE TO RUN

ASU

THEY WERE REPUBLICANS SO ITPj(

WAS A REAL MESS.

WE CAME IN.e1

WE PUT OUR HEADS DOWN TO

FIGURE OUT A STRATEGY THAT

BEGAN WITH REIGNITING OUR BASE

TALKING OUR BASE,MY| RECONNECTING

WITH THEM.

>> Jon: WHY IS IT SO EASY.V:5"

THEM.

IGNITE YOUR BASE?

THEY ARE SO FLAMMABLE, YOUR

BASE.

>> A CREDITORt( INCITEABLE

BUNCH.

THAT'Sç$

BUT THAT'S Açó VERY GOOD POINT

AND A VERY FAIR POINT.

YOU SEE IT ON BOTH THE RIGHT

AND THE LEFT AMONG THEk

DEMOCRA

DURING THExD BUSH YEARS YOU SAW

A-9| VERY WELL ORGANIZED AND IP,|

THOUGHT WELL COMMUNICATED

STRATEGY BY THENB| FOLKS ON THE

LEFT ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ.

NOW YOU HAVE INñr THE AGE OF

OBAMA, PRESIDENT OBAMA'S TIME,

YOU'VE GOT THE ECONOMY.i]

WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT

REPUBLICANS FEEL VERY STRONGLY

ABOUTt( ANDtY

>> Jon: SELLING THEMSELVES AS

THE PARTY OF FISCAL

RESPONC[%1%Qe9ñ

THE PARTY IS AND CERTAINLY IN

THE LAST TEN YEARS WE'VE

GOTTEN INTO BIG

REPUBLICANISM WHICH

A LOT OFYm| PEOPLE THE BASE,

TURNED AWAY A L/á

INDEPENDENT VOTERS WHO

SUPPORTED

BACKr

WEREN'T TRUE TOçó WHAT WE WERE

SAYING WHAT WEfá WOULD DO.

>> Jon:ñr EVEN WITH REAGANÑi,Ñiq

REAGAN RAN BIGw3 DEFICITS.

HE RAISED TAXES.r

>> THERE IS A BLIND SPOT WHEN

IT COMES TO SOME OF WHAT

PRESIDENTñr REAGAN DID AS

GOVERNOR AND AS PRESIDENT.

I MEAN ADMITTEDLY SO.U

>> Jon: DOESN'T

TH%ØJUt THOUGH?

>> I THINK ,1DPS ALSOq

STRONG SENSE OF, YOU KNOW,

IDEAL.

THE PARTYA5... A LOT OF TH%|D

ACTIVISTS IN THE PARTY DOHt

STRIVE TOWARDS THE IDEAL.

IT'S TRUE FOR BOTH DEMOCRATS

AND REPUBLICANSt(t( NOT JUST SEND

IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE

POLITICAL SPEC STRUM.

>> Jon: WITHÑixD DEMOCRATS THEY

CANNOT ARTICULATE THE IDEAL.t(

IF THERE WAS A DEMORBQ9rrrñ

>> IxD THINK THEYe1 DO.

>> Jon: WOULDq

GOVERNMENT.

>> THEY WOULDN'T PUT IT INjF

TERMS OF BIG GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S AN EASYr

SAY.

WHATçó THExD PRESIDENT TALKSñr ABOUT

IN THE STATE OF THE UNION

TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENT.

WE

SPENDING.

IT'S HOW YOU ARE ABLE TO

AND THEN COMMUNICATE THATt(

BEYOND.

>> Jon: LET'S TALK ABOUT

THEORY ANDñr PRACTICE.

THE RNC IS NOW 21 OR 23

MILLIONfT"u

THE PARTY OF FISCAL

RESPONSIBILITY.

IS THAT....

>> BUT TpA

(LAUGHING)t(w3

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: I WANT TO HEAR HIM.çó

>> THAT'S A FAIR POINT.ó[|

THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THE BUDGET

COMMITTEE HEARING, MEETING,

SHOWED I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND

THE MONEY.

I WAS VERY HESITANTok ABOUT

COMMITTING OURSELVES TO

ADDITIONAL LINES OF CREDIT.

BUT IT IS PART OF....

>> Jon: YOU RAISED YOUR DEBT

LIMIT.xD

>> EXACTLY.

AND, LOOK, IT WILL GET PAID

OFF.ñr

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

CERTAINLY THE NEW CHAIRMANñr

WASTED NO TIME DOINGÑi HISD

TENURE WORKING WITHxD ME ASKING

FORxDlp MONEY.

>> Jon: EXACTLY.ok

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE

REPMa

FORECLOSED ON.

I'M SAYINGñr

A PARTY TO SAY WE

PARTY OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY

BUT WE'RE RUNNING Afá HUGE DEBT.

>> THAT'S EVERYñr PARTY, BOTH

PARTIES HAVE DEBT RIGHT NOW.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLIIa

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE DEMOCRATS

ARE SHOWINGÑi THEIR TRU

BY SPENDING WILDLY

ABANDON.

>> Jon: YES.

>> OKAY.t(

>> Jon: NOBODY WOULD SUGGEST

THAT THEt( DEMOCRATS....

>> THE DIFFERENCE IS WE WON.

>> Jon: THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> THE VALUE ADDED TO THE

DOLLAR SPENT IS-9 MUCH GREATER

FOR US BECAUSE WEçó HAVE 63

MEMBERS IN THE CONGRESS, 21

STATE LEGISLATORSñr CHANGED FROM

DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN.

IT'S A DIFFERENTlp

>> Jon: YOU HAVE A STIMULUS

PROGRAM THROUGH DEFICIT

SPENDING.r

THAT CREATED A POSITIVE

RESULT.

THAT IGNITED YOUR BASE.Ñie1ñr

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> DO YOUe1 THINKÑi YOU WANT TO

TRY THAT AT THE NATIONAL |

LEVEL?

MAYBE IT WILL WORK AT THE

NATIONAL LEVEL.

>> Jon: IT'S INTERESTING.

DO YOUñr FEEL LIKE THE

REPUBLICANS WILL BE ABLE TO

DELIVERñrñr ON... IS IT

DISINGENUOUS TO SOME EXTENT TO

BE CALLING FOR FISCAL

RESPONSIBILITY

AN ADMINISTRATIONt( THAT RAISED

DOUBLED IT, THAT HAD

UNACCOUNTED FOR EXPENSESt(,

THExD AFGHAN WAR.

>> THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE

PRICE THAT WE PAID IN THE

PREVIOUS ELECTIONS WHERE WEÑi

DID GO ON THE SPENDING RUN,

WHERE WE DID GROW THE SIZE OF

GOVERNMENT, WHERE WE DIDq

CREATE ADDITIONAL DEBT AND

BURDENED THE FUTURE

GENERATIONS.

WE PAIDS7 DEARLY FOR THAT AT THE

BALLOT BOX INt( '06 AND '08.

PARTN

LAST YEAR WAS THE PARTY

REORGANIZING ITSELF,

RETHINKING ITS POSITIONS AND

REALLY STANDING TRUE.

NOW THE TEST-- AND WE KNOW

THIS.

THEY'RE ON PROBATION.

WHAT THE HOUSE DOES WHEN ITA

WHAT THE SENATE DOES WHEN IT

COMES TO SPENDING BILLS,

WHETHER ORt( NOT....

>> Jon: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE

THEM NOT RAISE THE DEBT

CEILING?

WILL IT BE ALMOST AN

IDEOLOGICAL TEST TO SAY NO

RAISING OF THE2MQ DEBT CEILING?

>> I HOPE IT DOESN'T COME TO

THAT.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TOO MANY

PEOPLE AREr

TOO MANY FAMILIES THAT ARE

HURTING RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THERE HAS GOT TO BE

SERIOUS BRAKES PUT ON THE

SPENDING.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE

THE LIMIT PUT A LOT OF STRINGS

ATTACHED TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING

TO DO WITH ADDITIONAL SPENDINGq

GOING FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO

INCREASE THATw3 AMOUNT.

ANDXT

WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY OR

ANY RECOURSE WITH THE(AíERICAN

PEOPLE.

>> Jon: NOT NOW WITH THEçó

DEMOCRATS IN CHARGE.

>> NOfálp BECAUSE AS YOU'VE

ALREADY ADMITTED THEn@| SPENDING

HAS GONE CRAZY.

>> Jon: NOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN

RELEASED FROM THE IDEA THAT

PEOPLE DON'Tçó WANT!U YOU TO

APPEAR ON SHOWS WILL YOU COME

BACK AGAIN.

>> Jon: BECAUSE WYATT'S ARM

HURTS TERRIBLY WHEN HE DOES

THAT.

í8 I THINK I'M A BETTER STAND-

IN.

>> Jon: MUCH BETTER.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOU

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