Barack Obama Pt. 2

Aired:  10/27/10 Views: 576,600

Barack Obama disagrees with the notion that the health care bill is timid when 30 million people are going to get insurance as a result. (9:41)

I WANT THE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A LIST OF

ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT YOU FEEL

VERY PROUD OF THAT THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE

RUNNING ON THE LIST OF

ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, I SAW A

COMMERCIAL FOR A GUY FROM WEST

VIRGINIA, MANCHIN, HE TOOK A

RIFLE AND SHOT THE CAP AND TRADE

BILL, AND I THOUGHT, OH, GOSH,

THE REPUBLICANS -- OH, THAT'S A

DEMOCRAT.

HAVE YOU CONVINCED YOUR OWN

PARTY THAT THE LEGISLATIVE

PROGRESS HAS BEEN ENOUGH, AND

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THEIR

REACTION TO IT?

>> LOOK, LET ME SAY THIS ABOUT

MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

>> Jon: ARE YOU GOING TO

CURSE?

>> NEW YORK I'M NOT GOING TO

CURSE.

( LAUGHTER )

I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS FEEL

FRUSTRATED ABOUT CONGRESS, HOW

IT OPERATES, THE BICKERING, THE

WEIRD RULES, THE FILIBUSTERS,

ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT THERE ARE A

BUNCH OF FOLKS WHO DURING THE

COURSE OF THIS YEAR TOOK REALLY

TOUGH VOTES THAT THEY KNEW WERE

BAD POLITICS BECAUSE THEY

THOUGHT THEY WERE THE RIGHT

THINGS TO DO.

THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF

DEMOCRATS...

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF

DEMOCRATS, GUYS LIKE TOM

PERRIOLO IN VIRGINIA BETSY

MARKEY IN COLORADO WHO ARE

BASICALLY IN REPUBLICAN

DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, THEY WON IN

THE BIG SURGE THAT WE HAD IN

2008.

THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A

TOUGH BATTLE, THAT THESE ARE

GENERALLY PRETTY CONSERVATIVE

DISTRICTS, AND YET THEY STILL

WENT AHEAD AND DID WHAT THEY

THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.

AND MY HOPE IN THIS ELECTION IS

THAT PEOPLE WHO VOTE ON THE

BASIS OF WHAT THEY THINK IS

RIGHT AND HAVE INTEGRITY AND

AREN'T JUST THINKING ABOUT THE

NEXT ELECTION BUT ARE THINKING

ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION, THAT

THEY ARE REWARDED.

NOW, THAT'S TOUGH IN THIS

POLITICAL PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'VE

GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF

INDEPENDENT MONEY THAT'S POURING

INTO THOSE RACES.

THEY ARE BEING HAMMERED BY

NEGATIVE ADS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES:

DID THE MILLIONS OF VOICES WHO

CAME OUT IN 2008, WHO SAID FOLKS

WERE INTERESTED IN FIXING OUR

HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WANTED A

SERIOUS ENERGY POLICY, WANTED

THE KINDS OF CHANGES IN OUR

STUDENT LOAN PROGRAM THAT HAVE

ALLOWED MILLIONS MORE KIDS TO

HAVE ACCESS TO COLLEGE, THAT'S

WHAT WE RAN ON, THAT'S WHAT WE

DELIVERED, AND MY HOPE IS THOSE

PEOPLE ARE REWARDED FOR TAKING

THOSE TOUGH VOTES.

IF THEY, ARE I THINK DEMOCRATS

WILL DO FINE ON ELECTION DAY.

>> Jon: IS THE DIFFICULTY THAT

YOU HAVE HERE THE DISTANCE

BETWEEN WHAT YOU RAN ON AND WHAT

YOU DELIVERED?

IS THAT... YOU RAN WITH SUCH,IF

I MAY, AUDACITY.

SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID IS

GREAT LEADERS LEAD IN A TIME OF

OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE THE ONES

WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YET

LEGISLATIVELY IT HAS FELT TIMID

AT TIMES.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE AT TIMES WHAT

YOU WANT OUT OF A HEALTH CARE

BILL.

>> AND THIS IS, JON, I LOVE YOUR

SHOW, BUT...

>> Jon: VERY KIND OF YOU.

>> BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE,

YOU KNOW, I HAVE A PROFOUND

DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU AND I

DON'T WANT TO LUMP YOU IN WITH A

LOT OF OTHER PUNDITS, BUT THIS

NOTION...

>> Jon: YOU MAY.

>> NO, NO.

LOOK, THIS NOTION THAT HEALTH

CARE WAS TIMID.

YOU'VE GOT 30 MILLION PEOPLE WHO

ARE GOING TO GET HEALTH

INSURANCE AS A CONSEQUENCE OF

THIS.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> YOU HAVE A PATIENTS' BILL OF

RIGHTS THAT MAKES SURE THAT

INSURANCE COMPANIES CAN'T DROP

YOU WHEN YOU GET SICK IF YOU'VE

BEEN PLAYING PREMIUM, MAKE SURE

THERE AREN'T LIFETIME LIMITS,

MAKE SURE KIDS WHO DON'T HAVE

INSURANCE CAN STAY ON THEIR

PARENTS' HEALTH INSURANCE UNTIL

THEY'RE 26, AND IT CUTS THE

DEFICIT BY OVER $1 TRILLION.

THIS IS WHAT I THINK MOST PEOPLE

WOULD SAY IS AS SIGNIFICANT A

PIECE OF LEGISLATION AS WE'VE

SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY.

( APPLAUSE

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

AND THE NOTION THAT... BUT WHAT

HAPPENS... WHAT HAPPENS IS IT

GETS DISCOUNTED BECAUSE THE

PRESUMPTION IS, WELL, WE DIDN'T

GET 100% OF WHAT WE WANTED.

WE GOT 90% OF WHAT WE WANTED, SO

LET'S FOCUS ON THE 10% WE DIDN'T

GET AS OPPOSED TO THE 90% THAT

WE DID.

AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS A WOMAN

IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHO DOESN'T

HAVE TO SELL HER HOUSE TO GET

HER CANCER TREATMENTS BECAUSE OF

THAT HEALTH CARE BILL.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

AND SHE DOESN'T THINK IT'S

INCONSEQUENTIAL.

SHE DOESN'T THINK IT'S TIMID.

>> Jon: THE SUGGESTION WAS NOT

THAT IT'S INCONSEQUENTIAL.

>> THE SUGGESTION WAS THAT IT

WAS TIMID.

>> Jon: TIMID.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN,

AND I DON'T MEAN TO LUMP YOU IN

WITH OTHER PRESIDENTS...

( LAUGHTER )

>> GOOD.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: BUT I THINK IF I WERE

TO TRY AND COALESCE WHATEVER

CRITICISM OF IT MAY BE, IT'S

THAT YOU RAN ON THE IDEA THAT

THIS SYSTEM NEEDED BASIC REFORM.

IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THE

REFORMS THAT HAVE PASSED, LIKE

HEALTH CARE, HAVE BEEN DONE IN A

VERY POLITICAL MANNER THAT HAS

PAPERED OVER A FOUNDATION THAT

IS CORRUPT.

>> THAT I THINK IS FAIR, WHICH

IS... HERE'S WHAT I THINK IS

FAIR, THAT OVER THE LAST TWO

YEARS IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> OUR BASIC ATTITUDE WAS, WE'VE

GOT TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.

>> Jon: UH-HUH.

>> IN SOME CASES QUICKLY, THAT

ARE... IN ORDER TO DO THAT,

BASICALLY WE WORKED WITH THE

PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO TRANSFORM

THE PROCESS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THAT

FRUSTRATED FOLKS.

IT FRUSTRATES ME.

LOOK, I WOULD LOVE NOT TO HAVE A

60-VOTE REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS

NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION, BUT IT

IS IN THE SENATE RULES RIGHT

NOW, THAT APPLY TO EVERYTHING WE

DO SO THAT I CAN'T GET A DEPUTY

SECRETARY OF TREASURY IN THE

MIDDLE OF FINANCIAL CRISIS

BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S HOLDING IT

UP.

AND THEY'RE FILIBUSTERING THE

APPOINTMENT.

SO THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS

THAT HAPPENED DURING THE COURSE

OF THESE TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF

PROCESS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE

CHANGED.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE AREAS

WHERE WE HAD CONTROL OVER

PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY MADE

CHANGES.

SO WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF

RULES ABOUT LOBBYISTS

INTERACTING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE

THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM ANY

WHITE HOUSE BEFORE.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME TO

VISIT THE WHITE HOUSE, NOW THAT

LIST IS GIVEN OUT TO EVERYBODY.

THAT'S A CHANGE.

BUT...

>> Jon: DID YOU JUST INVITE ME

TO THE WHITE HOUSE?

>> NO.

NO.

BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO DISCLOSE

IT, AND I DON'T THINK...

EXACTLY.

>> Jon: LET ME EXPLAIN MORE

SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I THINK

THAT TO SAY WITHIN THE SYSTEM,

WITHOUT THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IN

THE HEALTH CARE BILL, YOU WORKED

WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, DURING THE CAMPAIGN

THERE WAS TALK THAT WE WOULD BE

ABLE TO NEGOTIATE PRICES WITH

CANADIAN PHARMACEUTICAL

COMPANIES.

A DEAL WAS MADE WITH THEM, $80

BILLION OVER TEN YEARS.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A QUID PRO QUO.

BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS WITH

THE INSURANCE COMPANIES.

I WAS TALKING WITH A WOMAN IN

THE AUDIENCE BEFORE THE SHOW.

( LAUGHTER )

SHEA -- SHE BROUGHT UP AN

INTERESTING POINT.

YOU KNOW, 2014 IS WHEN THESE

EXCHANGES KICK IN AND THERE WILL

BE SOME SORT OF PRICE COMES, BUT

UP UNTIL THAT POINT THERE'S

REALLY NOTHING IN THIS BILL THAT

DOESN'T ALLOW THESE INSURANCE

COMPANIES TO RAISE RATES.

>> NOT TRUE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE

EMPOWERED STATE INSURANCE

COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW THE RATE

HIKES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN

STATES, AND SOME STATES LIKE

NORTH CAROLINA HAVE ALREADY USED

IT AND ROLLED BACK PREMIUM

INCREASES BY 25%.

>> Jon: DOESN'T THAT ONLY TRIP

ON EGREGIOUS RAISES?

DON'T THEY KNOW IF YOU RAISE IT

30% SO THEY RAISE IT 29%?

IS THAT?

>> IF THE POINT, JON, IS THAT

OVERNIGHT WE DID NOT TRANSFORM

THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, THAT

POINT IS TRUE.

( LAUGHTER )

>> Jon: BUT WHEN YOU PUT IT

THAT WAY, IT SEEMS SO PETTY.

>> WHEN I SAY THAT... WHEN WE

PROMISED DURING THE CAMPAIGN,

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> IT WASN'T CHANGE YOU CAN

BELIEVE IN, IN 18 MONTHS, IT WAS

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN, BUT,

YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.

THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION...

LET ME MAKE THIS POINT BECAUSE I

THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

LOOK, WHEN SOCIAL SECURITY WAS

PASSED, IT APPLIED TO WIDOWS AND

ORPHANS.

AND IT WAS A VERY RESTRICTED

PROGRAM.

AND OVER TIME THAT STRUCTURE

THAT WAS BUILT ENDED UP

DEVELOPING INTO THE MOST

IMPORTANT SOCIAL SAFETY NET THAT

WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY.

THE SAME IS TRUE ON EVERY PIECE

OF PROGRESSIVE LEGISLATION,

EVERY BIT OF PROGRESS THAT WE'VE

MADE.

WHEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT

PASSED, THERE WAS STILL A BUNCH

OF FOLKS DOWN SOUTH WHO COULDN'T

VOTE, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE

THERE WERE A BUNCH OF

COMMENTATORS OUT THERE WHO SAID,

YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS LAW IS NOT

DOING THE JOB.

THEY'RE THERE ARE STILL FOLKS

WHO AREN'T ABLE TO EXERCISE

THEIR FRANCHISE, BUT THE POINT

WAS THAT WE HAVE CREATED A

STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE PUT A FRAMEWORK IN PLACE

THAT ALLOWED US THEN TO CONTINUE

TO MAKE PROGRESS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE

LAST 18 MONTHS.

THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT WE'RE GOING

TO KEEP ON DOING AS LONG AS I'VE

GOT THE CAPACITY TO DO IT, AS

LONG AS I'M PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT, SIR.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A COMMERCIAL

BREAK.

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