Ken Burns

  • Aired:  04/10/13
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Documentarian Ken Burns questions the New York City institutions that botched the "Central Park Five" case. (7:39)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT DOCUMENTARY

FILMMAKER.

HIS LATEST FILM IS CALLED "THE

CENTRAL PARK FIVE."

>> THE LAWYER SAID WE'RE GOING

TO LOSE THIS CASE.

WE PLAN TO GET YOU A PLEA DEAL.

>> I REMEMBER TELLING THEM, YOU

KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN COP OUT, BUT

IF I DID SOMETHING, I WOULD COP

OUT.

I WOULD WANT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF

TIME FOR WHAT I DID.

IF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING YOU CAN

GIVE ME THE REST OF MY LIFE IN

PRISON.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT

BACK THEN BUT I KNEW THERE WOULD

BE NO WAY I WOULD COP OUT TO

SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO.

>> Jon: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO

THE PROGRAM KEN BURNS.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

SO, THIS IS THE STORY OF FAMOUS

CENTRAL PARK JOGGER.

FIVE YOUNG MEN IN THE PARK THAT

NIGHT CONVICTED OF THIS REALLY

HORRIBLE CRIME.

AND THEY SPENT A TREMENDOUS

AMOUNT OF TIME IN JAIL.

AND IT TURNS OUT THEY HAD

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH

IT.

>> NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND A

JUDGE VACATED THEIR CONVICTIONS

AND THE REAL RAPIST CAME FORWARD

AND CONFESSED AND HIS DNA

MATCHED THE DNA SAMPLE THAT WAS

AT THE INCREDIBLY BLOODY CRIME

SCENE AND NONE OF FIVE BOYS

HADN'T HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH

IT BUT THEY SPENT UPWARDS OF 13

YEARS IN JAIL.

THE JUDGE VACATED CONVICTIONS IN

2002 AND THEY NISHITIED A CIVIL

SUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF NEW

YORK AS WE WOULD ALL DO AND IT'S

TEN YEARS AND NOTHING HAS

HAPPENED.

YOU CAN SEE THE -- IN 1989 BEING

A MEMBER OF THE CENTRAL PARK

FIVE WAS AMONG THE WORST HUMAN

BEINGS ON EARTH.

>> NO QUESTION.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE HEROISM, THE

ESSENTIAL GOODNESS.

IT'S LIKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST.

YOU LOOK IN THEIR EYES AND I

DEFY YOU TO LOOK AND SAY -- YOU

CAN GO IN SAYING THEY ARE

GUILTY.

>> THEY DON'T EVEN NEED US TO GO

IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID

THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

HERE SAY SINGULAR PIECE OF DNA

EVIDENCE.

IT'S THIS OTHER GUY, WHO BY THE

WAY, SINCE THEY DIDN'T CATCH HIM

FOR THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD

HIM WENT ON TO COMMIT OTHER

HORRIFIC CRIMES.

>> THEY COULD HAVE HAD HIM TWO

DAYS BEFORE AND SOMEBODY FORGOT

TO FOLLOW UP.

HE RAPED SEVERAL WOMEN AND

MURDERED A PREGNANT WOMEN.

I THINK ALL OF THIS SAY WAY OF

SAYING WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES IN

LIFE.

THE JOURNALIST SAYS IT REALLY

DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.

EVERYBODY HAS MED A MISTAKE.

THESE GUYS ARE INVESTED IN THIS

MISTAKE AND IT'S 24 YEARS.

>> IT'S THE PART I AM HAVING

TROUBLE GETTING THROUGH.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE

INSTITUTIONS ARE NOT MALEVOLENT

INSTITUTIONS THEY DO TRY TO DO

THEIR BEST BUT THIS IS SAY CASE

OF MASS DELUSION AND STUB BORN

IN A WAY THAT IS SOCK.

>> IT'S SHAMEFUL.

WE NEED TO PUT A PERIOD ON THIS

INJUSTICE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE FIVE.

IT'S THE PROSECUTORS AND POLICE

THAT LIVED WITH THIS FOR SO

LONG.

>> IF YOU ARE NEW YORK CITY WHAT

IS THEIR COMMENT ABOUT THIS?

DO THEY SAY, OH, YEAH, NO, IT

WASN'T THEM BUT WE'RE NOT GOING

TO GIVE THEM MONEY BECAUSE WE --

>> THEY TRY OUT -- THEY HAVE

ALTERNATIVE NARRATIVES DUJOUR.

THEY FINISHED OFF WHAT THIS GUY

STARTED OR THEY STARTED WHAT HE

FINISHED OFF.

OR WE'VE INFORMATION THAT YOU

DON'T KNOW.

>> YOU WILL FOLLOW THE DIRECTIVE

THAT THEY WERE GUILTY AND THEY

HAVE TO GO TO JAIL DON'T YOU

HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COURT'S

DIRECTIVE THAT THEY ARE NOT

GUILTY AND THEY WERE WRONGLY

HELD?

IF YOU WANT TO BRING CHARGES

AGAINST THEM THAT THEY WERE --

>> THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

>> THEY WILL NOT DEAL WITH THE

CASE?

IT'S A PIPELINE SNMPLEG THEY ARE

SAYING IT'S A NO SETTLEMENT

CASE.

THEY'VE DRAWN IT OUT.

NORMALLY CASES GET --

>> PEOPLE TRIP IN NEW YORK CITY

THAT GET A MILLION DOLLARS,

BREAK THEIR NOSE ON A SIDEWALK.

>> EXACTLY.

THIS IS TEN YEARS.

THEY SUBPOENAED ALL OF THE

OUTTAKES AND RECORDS.

>> Jon: OUR OUTTAKES DID THEY

THINK THERE WAS LIKE A BLOOPER

REEL LIKE, ACTUALLY WE DID IT.

ACTION.

DON'T USE THAT.

DON'T USE THAT.

>> THEY WERE FISHING FOR

INCONSISTENCE SIZ.

JOHN YOU SAID YOU ENTERED AT

9:01.

YOU TOLD KEN AND ARREST SARAH

AND DAVE.

>> Jon: THE INCONSISTENCIES

ARE STUNNING.

NONE OF GUYS HAD THE SAME STORY.

THEY WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW IT

BUT IT WAS CONVOLUME LAWSUITED

FOR THEM.

>> YOU ARE 14 YEARS OLD YOU ARE

40 HOURS OF INTERROGATION

WITHOUT FOOD AND WATER YOUR

PARENTS ARE IN AND OUT AND THE

GUYS ARE SAYING WE KNOW YOU

DIDN'T DO IT.

HE IS SAYING HE DID IT AND IT

WAS A CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD.

>> Jon: NEW YORK WAS AN UTTER

MESS BACK THEN AND THIS CASE

WAS -- THE MEDIA WAS ON THIS

THING LIKE FIRE ON GASO LINE.

>> THAT'S THE WILDING.

THE KIDS WEREN'T WILDING THE

MEDIA WAS WILDING.

THIS WAS WHAT IT WAS.

IT WAS NOT UNREASONABLE THAT THE

COPS THOUGHT THESE KIDS MIGHT

HAVE DONE IT ONCE THEY DON'T

KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT THEY

CAN'T DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED OR

WHERE IT HAPPENED.

THEY ONLY KNOW BECAUSE IT DID

HAPPEN.

SUDDENLY THEY SAY WHAT ABOUT

THAT GUY YOU DIDN'T PICK UP.

THEY WENT TO SAY IT WAS A SLAM

DUNK.

>> Jon: I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW

THE CITY CAN'T SAY LOOK HOW FAR

WE'VE COME.

WE'VE CORRECTED SOME OF THE

SYSTEMIC AND CLASS ORIENTED AND

RACE-ORIENTED DISCRIMINATORY

POLICIES.

WE CHANGED IT.

TRIED TO DO OUR BEST.

LET'S MAKE GOOD WITH THESE GIS

TO SHOW THE DISTANCE WE'VE COME.

>> JON STEWART FOR MAYOR!

THIS IS IT.

>> Jon: NO, NO, NO.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

HERE IS WHY: LET ME JUST SAY

THIS, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE

PICTURES OF MY JUNK AND SEND IT

TO EVERYBODY.

I DON'T HAVE TO TIME FOR THAT

CAMPAIGNING.

>> MAYOR BLOOMBERG COULD SAY

REMIND ME AGAIN WHY WE'RE

SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

DEFENDING PEOPLE WHO MADE A

MISTAKE.

SAY LOOK, CAN I END THIS.

IT RELEASES EVERYBODY.

ALL OF US WHO BOUGHT THE STORY.

DIDN'T YOU WRING YOUR HANDS?

>> Jon: YEAH.

IT'S A RECONCILIATION WITH WHAT

HAPPENED.

>> NOBODY HAS TO GO TO JAIL.

IT COULD JUST BE WE MADE A

MISTAKE.

HOW CAN WE MAKE YOU WHOLE.

GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

THEY ARE IN THE 40s AND LATE

30s AND THEY WERE 14, 15, 16

YEARS OLD.

IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.

>> Jon: IT'S ON PBS APRIL 15

AT 9:00 P.M.

IF THEY WIN THE LAWSUIT CBS WILL

THROW IN

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