Can't Touch This

  • Aired:  07/31/13
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Jason Jones investigates the Kentucky state government's plan to nullify distasteful federal laws. (5:42)

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

OF COURSE, IN THE END, IT MAY

NOT EVEN MATTER WHAT CONGRESS

DOES WITH THIS OR ANY LAW.

>> PILL POLITITIONS AT THE STATE

LEVEL ARE INCREASINGLY

FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT THEY SAY IS

AN OVER-REACH BY THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION.

>> WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR US

HERE IN KENTUCKY, AND WE DON'T

WANT TO BE DICTATED TO BY

WASHINGTON, D.C.

>> FOR KENTUCKY STATE SENATOR

DAMEN THAYER, THE FEDS HAVE GONE

TOO FAR.

>> THE LEFT WING LIBERALS IN

WASHINGTON, D.C. THINK THEY KNOW

WHAT'S BEST.

THEY HUT GUNS.

THEY HADE HAIGHT LAW-ABIDING

CITIZENS WHO WANT TO BUY GUNS,

AND WE FEAR THAT THERE WILL BE

FEDERAL GUN LAWS THAT ACTUALLY

TAKE AWAY WHAT WE BELIEVE IS OUR

SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO KEEP

AND BEAR ARMS.

>> OTHER THAN THAT PREMISE BEING

COMPLETELY FALSE, WHAT MESSAGE

DID YOU SEND TO D.C.?

THE SENATE PASSED A BILL THAT

WOULD HAVE NULLIFIED ANY NEW

FEDERAL GUN LAW PASSED AFTER

JANUARY 1.

>> HE'S TALKING ABOUT

NULLIFICATION.

AN AGE-OLD LEGISLATIVE TACTIC

WHERE STATES PASS SPECIFIC LAWS

EXEMPTING THEMSELVES FROM

FEDERAL LAWS.

IT'S A FLAWLESS POLITICAL

TECHNIQUE THAT DOZENS OF

EMBRACING, DESPITE FACT THE

SUPREME COURT MADE NULLIFICATION

LAWS ILLEGAL ON SEVERAL

OCCASIONS, BUT THAT IS NOT THE

POINT.

>> BARACK OBAMA LOST KENTUCKY IN

A LANDSLIDE IN 2008 AND 2012.

SO IF WE DISAGREE WITH THOSE

POLICIES THAT WE STATED TWICE,

WHY SHOULD OUR GOVERNOR HAVE THE

RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND, BY

UNILATERAL FIAT, IMPLEMENT THE

MOST UNPOPULAR LAW THAT THIS

PRESIDENT HAS PASSED.

>> IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE

PRESIDENT, WHY SHOULD HIS

ADMINISTRATION'S LAWS APPLY IN

YOUR STATE?

>> CORRECT.

>> OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S

THE LAW.

>> OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT

IS THE LAW.

( LAUGHTER )

>> BUT, APPARENTLY, SOME, LIKE

COUNTY-LEVEL KENTUCKY JUDGE

TOMMY TURNER DON'T THINK THAYER

HAS THE RIGHT TO NULLIFY ANY

FEDERAL LAW.

>> NULLIFICATION LAW NMY

OPINION, IS NOT LEGAL.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE STATE TO

IGNORE FEDERAL LAW.

I MEAN, BASICALLY THEY'D BE

IGNORING THE UNITED STATES

CONSTITUTION.

>> SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO

DID BIT?

>> WE INTRODUCE AID BILL TO FULL

NIGH STATE LAWS.

( LAUGHTER )

>> SO, OKAY, I'M JUST-- I'M JUST

CONFUSED.

YOU'RE NULLIFYING THE STATE'S

NULLIFICATION LAW.

>> IN SIMPLE TERMS, YES, THAT'S

CORRECT.

>> BUT THAT'S NOT LEGAL.

>> YES.

WE FEEL NULLIFICATION IS

SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE,

BUT IF IT CAN BE DONE, WE'RE

GOING TO DO IT.

LAUGH.

>> ALL THIS LEGAL SPEAK IS VERY

CONFUSING.

EXPLAIN DID WITH SOME CUN TECHIE

FOLKSINESS.

>> WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS

GOOD FOR THE GANDER?

>> WHAT THE HELL IS A GANDER?

>> THE MEAN IS IF ONE CAN DO IT

THE OTHER CAN DO IT.

>> LIKE I SAED, WHAT'S A GANDER?

>> UM...

( LAUGHTER )

I CAN GUESS.

AND I MAY BE CORRECT.

BUT I MAY NOT, EITHER, SO.

>> YOU'VE BEEN SAYING IT SINCE

YOU WERE A KID.

>> YEAH.

>> LOOK IT UP.

BUT THAYER ISN'T CONCERNED WITH

JUDGE TURNER'S NULLIFICATION

PROPOSAL.

>> IT PROO-- IT PROBABLY-- I

THINK HE-- I THINK IT PROBABLY

LACKS LEGAL STANDING.

>> WHAT ABOUT YOUR NULLIFICATION

THAT ALSO LACKS LEGAL STANDING?

>> THAT'S PART OF THE DEBATE.

( LAUGHTER )

I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT JUDGE

TURNER'S NULLIFICATION OF

NULLIFICATION ISN'T MORE THAN A

PUBLICITY STUNT ON HIS BEHALF.

>> WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS

NOT GOOD FOR THE.

>> GANDER?

>> AND THE GAND SER A.

>> MALE GOOSE?

>> EXACTLY.

IS THAT SO WHROOEP ( BLEEP )

HARD?

IF THE FEDS CAN GET NULLIFIED BY

THE STATES, WHICH THEY CAN'T,

AND THE STATE CAN GET NULLIFIED

BY THE COUNTY, WHICH THEY CAN'T

YDID IS END?

>> IT IS A VICIOUS CIRC EXPELLED

MAY BE ONE THAT TURNS AROUND AND

BITES US.

I THINK IF OUR CITIZENS ROSE UP

AND DECIDE THEY WANTED TO

INDIVIDUALLY NULLIFY LAWS HANDED

TO THEM, THEN, YES, WE WOULD

HAVE THAT COS.

WE WOULD HAVE ANARCHY.

>> NO, I DON'T EYE DON'T SEE

THAT HAPPENING.

>> JUDGE TURNER THINKS IT WILL

HAPPEN.

>> WE IN KENTUCKY ARE A

LAW-ABIDING SOCIETY.

>> HE'S RIGHT, KENTUCKY IS A

LAW-ABIDING SOCIETY EXCEPT FOR

THE LAWS THEY DON'T FEEL THEY

NEED TO ABIDE BY.

SO ARE THERE ANY LAWS THAT

AFFECT YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WOULD

LIKE TO SEE NULLIFIED?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A RIGHT TO

PULL SOMEONE OVER BECAUSE THEY

DIDN'T WEAR A SEAT BELT.

MOTORCYCLES DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A

SEAT BELT.

>> I PERSONALLY THINK I CAN

HANDLE MY DRINKS, AND I THINK

THE D.U.I. LAWS IN THIS STATE,

FOR INSTANCE, ARE A LITTLE BIT

LOW.

>> SMOKING, I DON'T SMOKE, BUT I

THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO

SMOKE WHEREVER YOU WANT.

>> YOU CAN HANDLE MORE.

>>UN, ONE TIME I BLEW A .22, AND

I WAS STILL PRETTY DARN LUCID.

>> WHO ARE THE COUNTY OR STATE

OR LEFT-WING LIBERALS IN D.C. TO

TELL US WHAT TO DO?

AMERICANS KNOW BEST AT THE LOCAL

LEVEL.

>> YOU LIKE FRESH AIR, RIGHT?

THERE GU.

>> AND LAWS SHOULDN'T APPLY TO

US IF WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE

PEOPLE WHO MADE THEM.

I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, IS IT REALLY

GOING TO KILL SOMEONE?

>> ( BLEEP ).

WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR

OURSELVES AND OUR CHILDREN.

>> John: THANK YOU, JASON.

WE'LL BE R

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