Anderson Cooper

  • Aired:  02/22/11
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Anderson Cooper finds it weird that he caused drama in the world of journalism by calling Hosni Mubarak a liar. (6:03)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE

ANCHOR OF CNN'S "360."

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE

PROGRAM ANDERSON COOPER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

NICE TO SEE YOU.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING UNDER THE

WEATHER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

>> YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN ME FOR 20

MINUTES.

YOBDZ.

>> Jon: I'M UNDERSTOODER THE

WEATHER.

>> YOU LOOK REALLY SICK.

>> Jon: THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT THE MAKEUP AND

LIGHTING WOULD TAKE CARE OF

THAT.

I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S CRAZY, GROW TO CAIRO, HAITI

YOU TRAVEL, YOU'RE FINE.

THE PICTURE OF HEALTH.

I RARELY GO ABOVE 14th STREET.

(LAUGHTER)

AND YET I'M A BROKEN MAN.

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

YOU'VE BEEN TRAVELING ALL OVER.

YOU GOT BACK FROM EGYPT RCHBLT

THERE ANY MORE PLANS TO SEND YOU

TO PLACES WHERE YOU ARE IN

DANGER?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO LIBYA,

ACTUALLY.

SO WE'LL SEE.

>> Jon: WHO DO YOU HAVE TO TALK

TO ABOUT THAT?

IF YOU WERE GOING TO GO TO LIBYA

DOES CNN HAVE V TO SAY "ANDERSON

YOU CAN GET ONE BUSINESS

TICKET."

>> WE GOT A CORRESPONDENT IN

YESTERDAY THROUGH EGYPT BECAUSE

THE LIBYANS HAVE GIVEN UP THE

EASTERN BORDER SO IT WAS A GUY

WAVING HIM THROUGH SO HE'S

GOTTEN INTO EASTERN LIBYA WHICH

HAS BEEN LIBERATED.

>> Jon: BUT CAN YOU IN ANY WAY

GUARD HIS SAFETY?

HE'S ON HIS OWN NOW BECAUSE

THERE'S DEVASTATING VIOLENCE.

>> HE'S IN A LOT OF HARM'S WAY.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

THERE'S PRECAUTIONS YOU CAN KIND

OF TAKE AND YOU TRY TO BE AS

CAREFUL AS YOU CAN BUT THERE ARE

MERCENARY OUT THERE USING

SNIPERS TO SHOOT PEOPLE.

AS WE FOUND IN EGYPT, I'VE BEEN

DOING WAR STUFF FOR ABOUT 18

YEARS AND....

>> Jon: DO YOU CALL IT "WAR

STUFF" WHEN YOU'RE...

(LAUGHTER)

WHEN YOU'RE A WAR CORRESPONDENT

DO YOU REFER TO IT AS "STUFF."

YOU KNOW, FRONT LINES AND

(BEEP).

(LAUGHTER)

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DA?

>> BUT WHEN IT'S THE STATE

ITSELF, WHEN IT'S SOMEONE LIKE

MUBARAK OR QADDAFI WHO IS

TELLING THEIR PEOPLE GO AND KILL

REPORTERS OR KILL FOREIGNERS

OR... IT BECOMES A WHOLE

DIFFERENT SECURITY ISSUE.

>> Jon: THEY WERE ARRESTING

REPORTERS AND A TERRIBLE

SITUATION WITH LARA LOGAN.

BUT QADDAFI SEEMS LIKE A SPECIAL

KIND OF CRAZY.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW

THE TAPE WHERE HE'S HOLDING THE

UMBRELLA.

>> AMAZING.

THE WHITE UMBRELLA.

YEAH.

AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE... HE GAVE

A SPEECH TODAY THIS LONG

RAMBLING SPEECH WHICH FINALLY

EVERYONE JUST CUT AWAY FROM

BECAUSE IT WENT ON FOR MORE THAN

AN HOUR.

>> Jon: EVEN LIBYAN TELEVISION

CUT AWAY.

(LAUGHTER)

BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW

YOU'RE HAVING A PROBLEM AND

YOU'RE A DICTATOR.

LIBYA TELLS YOU "PUT ON ANOTHER

SHOW."

>> HE CALLED THE PROTESTORS

GREASEY RATS AND CAT WHICH IS I

THOUGHT WAS A PARTICULARLY ODD

PHRASE.

>> Jon: THAT'S ALMOST LIKE HEP

JAZZ, HE'S GOING TO GO TO THOSE

POETRY SLAMS.

IT'S... I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO

IT AND THE INTERESTING THING TO

ME WHEN YOU STARTED SAYING

MUBARAK IS LYING AND HERE'S WHY

IT ACTUALLY CAUSED CONTROVERSY

>> WHICH I WAS STUNNED BY.

A REPORTER SAYING HERE ARE SOME

LIES HE'S TELLING AND HERE'S

WHY.

AND PEOPLE GO OH, HE SHOULDN'T

BE DOING THAT.

>> IT WAS WEIRD.

THERE WAS A GUY IN THE "L.A.

TIMES" AND SOMEBODY ELSE ON A

COUPLE OTHER NETWORKS SAYING I

SHOULDN'T CALL MUBARAK A LIAR.

I'M NOT BIG ON CALLING PEOPLE

NAMES OR I TRY NOT TO TAKE ANY

POLITICAL STANCE BUT JUST BASED

ON FACT IT IS GUY IS LYING.

WHAT HE'S SAYING IS... AND IT'S

DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE.

>> Jon: IS THAT MAYBE JUST A

MISUNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE WITH

MODERN JOURNALISM THAT THINGS

ARE DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE YOU

SHOULD THEN BRING ON... LIKE YOU

SAY MUBARAK IS LYING BUT WE ALSO

HAVE SOMEONE HERE WHO BELIEVES

HE'S NOT AND ALSO BELIEVES THAT

ICE CREAM CURES CANCER SO LET'S

HAVE A FAIR DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

IS THAT... IS THAT AN ISSUE?

>> THAT'S A PROBLEM JOURNALISM

HAS A LOT OF BEING AFRAID TO SAY

SOMETHING THAT IS DEMONSTRABLY

NOT TRUE IS NOT TRUE.

THERE ARE THINGS WHICH ARE FACTS

AND I'M NOT SURE WHY SO MANY

PEOPLE SHY AWAY FROM THAT.

>> IT'S VERY STRANGE AND WHEN

YOU WATCH OFTEN TIMES NEWS

NETWORKS THINGS THAT ARE GOING

ON AT OTHER TIMES ON THE NETWORK

I KNOW THEY SAY "THOSE PEOPLE

ARE DIFFERENT" BUT THEY SAY

TRULY OUTLANDISH AND CRAZY

THINGS AND THEN YOU COME OUT

WITH I GUESS YOU CALL THEM...

WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM AGAIN?

>> FACTS.

>> Jon: FACTS.

(LAUGHTER)

AND SO YOU PROVED SOMETHING AND

THEN... THAT WAS THE THING THAT

THEY CALLED OUT.

I FOUND THAT FASCINATING.

>> I FOUND IT REALLY WEIRD.

YEAH.

I WAS SURPRISED.

>> Jon: HOW MUCH BACKUP DO YOU

HAVE EDITORIALLY AT CNN?

DO THEY BACK YOU UP I FEEL LIKE

AT FOX ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES

THEY HAVE IS ROGER ALWAYS IS

VERY LOYAL TO THEM AND HE BACK

THEM UP NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY

AND I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY SAY AND

BOY THAT TAKES LOYALTY.

(LAUGHTER)

>> NO ONE WITHIN CNN HAD ANY

PROBLEM WITH ME SAYING MUBARAK

IS LYING.

OTHER PEOPLE WEREN'T SAYING IT

AND THAT'S FIND BUT TO ME I'VE

BEEN ON THE GROUND AND SEEN WITH

MY OWN EYES HOW THE GUY IS LYING

AND I'VE SEEN WHAT THE TRUTH IS

AND WHAT HE'S SAID ABOUT IT AND

I FIND IT WEIRD THAT THAT SEEMED

TO CAUSE DRAMA.

>> Jon: WELL, I REALLY HOPE IN

THE FUTURE YOU TAKE THINK A

LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUSLY ABOUT

THIS WHOLE OBJECTIVE REALITY

THING.

(LAUGHTER)

VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ALL OF US

WHO ARE BIG FANS OF YOURS.

AND FOR ME THAT'S THE TOUGHEST

THING IS WHEN I SEE YOU IN A

DANGEROUS PLACE IT'S... IT MAKES

ME... I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIG

OLD HUG.

>> AW!

>> Jon: WE'RE BIG FANS OF YOURS.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE YOU IN

DANGEROUS PLACES.

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

NOT THAT YOU CAN'T HANDLE

YOURSELF.

I SEE WHAT YOU GOT GOING.

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