PTSD & Vietnam

  • Aired:  01/21/14
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Jason Jones reports on dishonorably discharged Vietnam veterans with PTSD who can't get treatment because they were dishonorably discharged because of PTSD. (5:25)

>> WELCOME BACK!

YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN A LOTOF ATTENTION PAID RECENTLY TO

THE MISTREATMENT OF OURRETURNING WAR VETERANS.

ONE GROUP HAS AVOIDED THATBECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN

TREATED AT ALL.

>> JASON JONES REPORTS ON THECHALLENGES FACING THE VETERANS

OF THE VIETNAM WAR.

>> WHEN VIETNAM VETS RETURNEDHOME THEY WERE OSTRACIZED,

CALLED UNSPEAKABLE THINGS, EVENSPIT ON.

SADLY THAT CONTINUES TODAY.

>> IT HAS BEEN HELL.

>> WE ARE STIGMATIZED ANDEXCLUDED.

>> BEING A VETERAN IS LIKE ASECOND CLASS CITIZEN.

>> LET ME GET THE PROBLEM HERE,HIPPIES DO YOU WANT TO BEAT SOME

UP?

>> NO.

>> TRUST ME YOU SMACK THEMAROUND WITH A BASEBALL BAT THEY

AREN'T GOING TO THINK IT'S SOGROOVY.

>> IT'S NOT THE HIPPIES.

WHO ARE YOU ANGRY WITH?

>> THE MILITARY.

>> I'M MAD AT THE MILITARYBECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH POST

TRAUMATIC STRESS AND THEMILITARY HAS TURNED THEIR BACKS

ON US.

>> IT'S ESTIMATED 500,000 VETSGOT PTSD IN VIETNAM YET HUNDREDS

GOT OF THOUSANDS OF THEM AREREDSINELIGIBLE

FOR TREATMENT WHICH RAISES AFASCINATING QUESTION: WHAT THE

(bleep)?

>> A BAD DISCHARGE.

>> A BAD DISCHARGE PROHIBITS USFROM BEING ELIGIBLE FOR A LOT OF

THINGS WE WOULD NORMALLY BEENTITLED TO.

>> HOW DO YOU GET THAT LESS THANHONORABLE DISCHARGE?

>> PTSD WE GOT IN VIETNAM.

>> I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONWOULD BE: ARE YOU (bleep)

SERIOUS?

>> MOST DEFINITELY SERIOUS.

>> LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT: THESE GUYS WENT TO VIETNAM?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WHERE THEY GOT TO PTSD.

>> YES.

>> WHICH LED TO THEM GETTINGLESS THAN HONORABLY DISCHARGED.

>> DEFINITELY.

>> AND NOW THEY CAN'T GETTREATMENT ON ACCOUNT OF THE

DISCHARGE THEY GOT FROM VIETNAM.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I FEEL LIKE THERE'S AMILITARY TERM FOR THAT.

AND ONE OTHER THING: THEMILITARY SAYS VIETNAM VETS

COULDN'T HAVE HAD PTSD IN THE70s BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T

OFFICIALLY DIAGNOSE IT UNTIL THE80s BASED OFF OF STUDIES, WAIT

FOR IT -- VIETNAM VETS.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET PTSD FROMAN INTERVIEW?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF ANGER THERE.

>> IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING YOUARE GOING TO EXPLODE.

>> WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I WANTTO PUNCH AND KICK.

>> LET ME TRY THAT.

[YELLING] NOEL NOEL [GRUNTING]>> HEY, MAN,

YOU HAVE TO CHILL!

[LAUGHTER][GRUNTING]

>> YEAH, THAT DIDN'T WORK.

>> YEAH, I STILL FEEL REALLYANGRY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WELL, I WOULD HIDE INTHE CLOSET.

>> EXCUSE ME.

>> DON'T HURT ME.

>> OKAY THIS BROOM CLOSET WASNOT HELPING BUT THERE WAS

SOMETHING THAT WOULD.

LAWYERS FROM THE YALE LAW SCHOOLFILED A CLASS ACTION SUIT ON THE

VETS BEHALF.

THIS WAS GOING TO GET ME OUT OFTHIS PATHETIC STATE.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGEOUSSITUATION.

WE'VE SEEN MANY CASES WHERERECORDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE AND

MILITARY SAYS THERE'S NOEVIDENCE OF

PTSD FROM THEMEDICAL RECORDS

THE MILITARY LOST.

>> I DON'T WANT TO DO THISINTERVIEW ANYMORE.

READ THE GLIB INSENSITIVEQUESTIONS YOURSELF.

>> IS PTSD ONE OF THOSE MADEUPDISEASES LIKE PEANUT ALLERGIES?

EVERY KID IN MY SON'S CLASS HASA PEANUT ALLERGY.

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

>> IT'S A GOOD TAG BUT I'M NOTLAUGHING.

>> OF COURSE THE VETS DO HAVEONE SIMPLE RECOURSE.

>> WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS GETDISCHARGES UPGRADED.

>> IT'S EASY ALL THEY HAVE TO DOIS GET THE DOD TO RECOGNIZE THE

DISEASE EXISTED BEFORE 1980.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THEIRLESS THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGES

WERE ACTUALLY HONORABLE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> AND FILL OUT 600 FORMS ON TOPAFTER THIS.

EASY.

>> IT'S A NIGHTMARE.

I'VE BEEN 13 YEARS TO GET MYUPGRADE AND SOMEBODY MARKED

DISAPPROVED.

>> HOW DO YOU KEEP GOING?

>> I'VE BEEN FIGHTING OVER 40YEARS AND I'LL CONTINUE TO

FIGHT.

>> IF THESE GUYS COULD FIGHT FOR40 YEARS, I COULD GET OUT OF MY

DISGUSTING BATHROBE AND TRAINTHEM MYSELF IN BUREAUCRATIC

WARFARE.

>> EVERY LINE, EVERY BOX WILL BEFILLED IN WITH METICULOUS

DETAIL.

IF THERE WAS ANYBODY COURAGEOUSENOUGH FOR THE UNBEARABLE

MISSION IT WOULD BE THESE GUYS.

NOW THE HARDEST PART OF YOURMISSION, CALLED WAITING.

GUNS AND AMMO FOR YOU AND VANITYFAIR FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S ALL WE

HAD IN THE LOBBY.

LET ME SEE YOU WAIT.

FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TOGET ITS HEAD OUT OF ITS ASS.

JASON JONES.

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