Exclusive - Husain Haqqani Extended Interview Pt. 2

  • Aired:  12/09/13
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In this exclusive, unedited interview, Husain Haqqani explains why the oft-fraught relationship between America and Pakistan endures. (2:54)

WE'RE TALKING TO HUSAIN HAQQANI.

SO YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT, THEN,THAT PAKISTAN -- IF ALL THEY ARE

DOING IS -- THIS IS NOT --TYPICALLY FOR AMERICA WE INVOLVE

OURSELVES IN OIL-RICH LANDBECAUSE IT'S A FLUID WE ENJOY.

[ LAUGHTER ]PAKISTAN IS A DIFFERENT

SITUATION.

WHY CAN'T PAKISTAN THEN JUSTALLY WITH RUSSIA OR CHINA OR THE

SAUDIS OR SOME OTHER COUNTRYTHAT WILL GIVE THEM FUNDING

WITHOUT THE COMPLEXITY OF HAVINGA LOT OF THEIR POPULATION HATING

US?

BECAUSE THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OFANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT WITHIN

PAKISTAN?

>> PAKISTAN HAS TRIED.

THEY ARE CLOSE TO THE SAUDIS, THEY ARE CLOSE TO

CHINA.

THE SOVIET UNION WAS NOT APOTENTIAL ALLY WITH PAKISTAN

BECAUSE IT HAD A GOODRELATIONSHIP WITH INDIA BUT I

THINK THAT THE PAKISTANI U.S.

RELATIONSHIP HAS ENDURED BECAUSEGOVERNMENT CHANGES IN AMERICA

FREQUENTLY.

YOU HAVE A CONGRESSIONALELECTION EVERY TWO YEARS.

YOU ELECT A NEW PRESIDENT, ANDTHEREFORE, ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT

WANT TO CHANGE THE WAY OF DOINGBUSINESS, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS

FIND SOMEONE IN YOUR POLITICALFISYSTEM WHO SAYS THIS TIME WE

NEED TO WORK WITH THESEGUYS FOR THIS ADVANTAGE.

AND YOU DO NOT MAKE FOREIGNPOLICY BASED ON LONG-TERM

CONSIDERATIONS.

IT'S BEEN MORE OF A MILITARY TOMILITARY RELATIONSHIP MORE THAN

A PEOPLE TO PEOPLE RELATIONSHIP.

I'D LIKE YOU TO BE WELCOME INPAKISTAN BUT I DON'T THINK

I CAN WELCOME YOU THERE AND IDON'T THINK YOU ARE COMING ANY

TIME SOON BECAUSE I'M NOT GOINGANY TIME SOON, EITHER.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Jon: AS MY PEOPLE SAY, THIS

IS SOMETHING WE SAY AT HOLIDAYSNEXT YEAR IN PAKISTAN.

MANY DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS.

[LAUGHTER]THAT WHAT IS SO

FRUSTRATING ABOUT A LOT OF THESEGEOPOLITICAL SITUATIONS.

WE SEE IT IN IRAN, PAKISTAN, INAMERICA, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT

COUNTRIES WHERE THE REGIMES HAVEEMBARKED ON A COURSE THAT IS

INCREDIBLY CORROSIVE OVER THELONG-TERM THAT IS AGAINST THE

WILL OF A GOOD MAJORITY OF THEPEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD HEARTED AND

WISH NOT TO CREATE THESE KINDSOF ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIPS BUT

ARE RELATIVELY POWERLESS TO DOANYTHING ABOUT IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

OF COURSE, YOU REMEMBER THATIMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SECOND

WORLD WAR THE AMERICAN ATTITUDEWAS FINDING STRONG MEN IN THIRD

WORLD COUNTRIES TO BE ABLE TOCONTROL THEIR PEOPLE ON BEHALF

OF THE U.S. AGAINST COMMUNISTINFLUENCE.

THERE WAS A FAMOUS SAYING ATTHAT TIME THAT HE MAY BE AN SOB

BUT HE IS MY SOB.

I SAY THE PROBLEM IN HAVINGYOUR SOB, IS AT THE END OF DAY

HE'S STILL AN SOB.

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