Al Sharpton

  • Aired:  10/19/11
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Reverend Al Sharpton explores Occupy Wall Street's impact on American political discourse. (5:48)

MY GUEST TONIGHT, A CIVIL RIGHTS

ACTIVIST WHO NOW HOSTS HIS OWN

PROGRAM ON MSNBC CALLED POLITICS

NATION, PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO

THE PROGRAM REVEREND AL

SHARPTON.

SIR!

[APPLAUSE]

FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS TO

YOU AND YOUR PERSONAL TRAINER.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> Jon: YOU LOOK TERRIFIC.

NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> Jon: HOW IS THE SHOW GOING?

HAS THAT BEEN AN EXCITING

OPPORTUNITY?

HAVE YOU ENJOYED YOURSELF?

WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE?

>> IT'S GOOD.

I LIKE IT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CAN BE ME, I

DEBATE PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT... I'M NOT TRYING TO

ACT OBJECTIVE.

I'M DOING WHAT I DO.

>> Jon: YOU'RE A NEWSMAN.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE

OBJECTIVE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

I'M JON STEWART WITHOUT THE

CURSING.

>> Jon: YOU CAN'T CURSE ON

MSNBC?

>> I DON'T CURSE.

>> Jon: AT ALL, EVER IN YOUR

LIFE?

>> I'M PROFOUND, NOT PROFEIGN.

[AUDIENCE REACTS]

>> Jon: CAN I SAY THIS?

CHECK AND MATE.

I AM DONE.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE ENJOYING

IT.

NOW WHAT DO YOU DO THEN IN A

SITUATION.

OKAY, OCCUPY WALL STREET COMES

UP.

IT'S A PROTEST VERY CLOSE TO

YOUR HEART IN TERMS OF ISSUES

AND IN TERMS OF CONSTITUENCY.

HOW DO YOU OPERATE IN THAT

ENVIRONMENT.

HOW DO YOU...

>> I SUPPORT IT.

I WENT DOWN AND DID MY RADIOSHOW

THERE.

I HAD PEOPLE ON THAT ARE FOR AND

AGAINST IT, THOSE THAT ARE...

MICHAEL MOORE WAS ON MY SHOW FOR

IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT WHY WE WERE FOR

IT.

RUSSELL SIMMONS WAS ON.

THEN THOSE AGAINST IT,

REPUBLICANS, I DEBATE THEM.

I DON'T DEPEND NOT TO HAVE AN

OPINION.

MY CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP HAD A JOBS

MARCH OVER THE WEEKEND, ABOUT

40,000, A MINATURE JON STEWART

MARCH.

WE DID THE BEST WE CAN.

>> Jon: YOU KNOW WHAT YOU

SHOULD TRY, IRONY.

[LAUGHTER]

PEOPLE LOVE TO COME OUT AND DO

NOTHING.

REALLY.

THEY GIVE YOU SO MUCH PLEEP

BLEEP FOR THAT.

PARDON ME.

[LAUGHTER]

>> FORGIVE YOU, MY SON.

>> Jon: THANK YOU.

IS IT FRUSTRATING, 40,000 PEOPLE

IS AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE TO

MOBILIZE FOR ANYTHING, YET THE

COVERAGE OF THAT CERTAINLY WAS

NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT.

WHAT IS IT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME,

AND THIS IS MY OWN PROBLEM AND

MY OWN INHIBITION, THE

THEATRICAL ASPECT OF ALL THAT

AND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT

ARE ATTRACTED DOWN THERE I'M NOT

USUALLY DOWN WORK BUT I AM VERY

MUCH INTERESTED IN THE MESSAGE

THAT'S BEING ARTICULATED AND THE

FEELING THAT IS.

DO YOU NEED THOSE THEATRICAL

ELEMENTS TO GET THE ATTENTION?

IS IT A CATCH-22?

>> IT IS A CATCH-22.

THE PROBLEM, AND IT'S SOMETHING

YOU STRUGGLE WITH.

I HAVE ALL MY LIFE.

YOU CAN'T GET SO DEEP INTO NEAT

RICKS THAT YOU LOSE THE CAUSE OR

THAT YOU'RE SO ELITIST IN THE

CAUSE THAT YOU FORGET YOU'VE GOT

TO ATTRACT PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN NEW YORK,

SO MY ACTIVISM WAS MORE

THEATRICAL BECAUSE I'M COMPETING

WITH EVERY TOURIST ATTRACTION IN

THE WORLD.

IF YOU GREW UP IN THE SOUTH, YOU

HAVE A MARCH IT'S THE BIGGEST

THING IN TOWN.

>> Jon: YOU'RE GOING UP RUM

TUNNEL TIGGER.

>> I HAD TO STOP SUBWAYS AND

JUMP OVER BRIDGES TO MAKE PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S WRONG FOR

PEOPLE TO GET SHOT AT 50 TIMES.

JON IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IT

IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE IS SO

UNUSUAL THAT IT CAN'T BE

IGNORED.

>> CORRECT.

>> Jon: NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE

ATTENTION, I GUESS EVERYBODY'S

IMPATIENT FOR, SO, WHEN ARE YOU

GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD FOR

US.

>> RIGHT.

>> Jon: THERE'S THAT SENSE OF

THAT.

MAYBE WE'RE EXPECTING TOO MUCH.

>> I THINK THAT WE ARE.

BUT I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY

ACHIEVED SOMETHING GREAT.

THEY'VE CHANGED THE CONVERSATION

BECAUSE THREE MONTHS AGO THE

WHOLE COUNTRY WAS ON THE

REPUBLICAN DISCUSSION OF DEFICIT

REDUCTION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JOBS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT POVERTY.

IF NOTHING ELSE THEY GOT US ON

THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO

BE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY

INTERESTING.

>> Jon: I THOUGHT IT WAS

REALLY INTERESTING WHEN IT FIRST

HAPPENED PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT

WERE VERY QUICK TO JUMP OUT AND

SAY, MOBS HAVE TAKEN TO THE

STREETS AND THE SAME PEOPLE THAT

SUPPORTED THE TEA PARTY, WHICH

WAS JUST GOOD AMERICANS SPEAKING

THEIR MINDS.

BUT NOW EVEN THEY HAVE SOFTENED

TO THE EXTENT OF MITT ROMNEY IN

PARTICULAR.

I GET THE 99%.

I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING OUT FOR

THEM.

DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU HOW QUICK

THAT TURNS?

>> IT'S REALLY INTERESTING THAT

NOW THEY UNDERSTAND THAT 1% OF

THE COUNTRY SHOULDN'T BE

CONTROLLING 40%.

99% IS... THEY KEPT SAYING THAT

UNTIL PEOPLE GOT IT.

NOW YOU GOT THE OTHER GUYS THERE

WITH 999, BUT HE SHOULD DROP ONE

NINE AND TALK ABOUT THE 99%.

[APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: NOW WE... WE'RE GOING

TO HAVE TO GO TO COMMERCIAL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

DO YOU HAVE TO GO TAPE YOUR

SHOW?

>> NEW YORK I'M ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: CAN YOU STICK AROUND

AND WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION.

THE HERMAN CAIN THING WE WERE

TALKING ABOUT WITH LARRY, THE

IDEA IN THIS COUNTRY A POSSIBLE

PRESIDENTIAL RACE, TWO AFRICAN

AMERICANS SQUARING OFF AGAINST

EACH OTHER HAS TO FEEL LIKE AN

ACHIEVEMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK

IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

>> IT IS AN ACHIEVEMENT, BUT I

THINK IT'S ALSO A GOOD POINT

WHERE PEOPLE THAT SAID THAT GUYS

LIKE ME WERE ONLY SUPPORTING

OBAMA BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK,

WELL, CAIN IS SOUTHERN BLACK, NO

INTERNATIONAL PARENTS AND I

WOULDN'T SUPPORT CAIN IF HE WAS

RUNNING AGAINST A WHITE GUY.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: I THINK THAT IS A GOOD

START.

STICK AROUND.

WE'LL THROW THIS UP ON THE WEB.

POLITICS NATION IS ON MSNPC

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