Jason Jones: Behind the Veil - Minarets of Menace Revisited

  • Aired:  06/06/13
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Jon shares details of his forthcoming documentary, and replays the 2009 Jason Jones piece that started it all. (6:51)

IS.

>> Jon: HEY, WELCOME BACK.

I'M HOPING YOU KNOW BY NOW

TONIGHT WILL BE MY LAST SHOW

UNTIL SEPTEMBER 4TH.

I'M ACTUALLY LEAVING FOR I

THINK A VERY NOBLE REASON.

I AM ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW

IF ANYBODY KNOWS THIS, AM

GETTING A MASSIVE PLASTIC

VOOIRJ MAKEOVER.

AND TURN THIS UGLY DUCKLING

INTO A BEAUTIFUL SWAN.

ACTUALLY HERE'S WHAT I

BELIEVE I'LL LOOK LIKE WHEN

I RETURN, SO JUST YOU GET

USED TO IT.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

NOT REALLY SURE WHY I HAD

THE BREAST IMPLANT.

WHILE I'M GETTING MY WORK

DONE THERE WILL BE A YOUNG

GO-GETTER NAMED JOHN OLIVER

SITTING IN THIS SHARE.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS

SHOW--

(APPLAUSE)

>> THIS SHOW WILL BE MUCH

CLASSIER WHILE HE IS

HOSTING.

YOU HAVE MY WORD THAT MY

RETURN IT WILL INSTANTLY

DROP BACK DOWN TO THE LEVEL

YOU HAVE LONG EXPECTED OF

IT.

(LAUGHTER)

ACTUALLY, OBVIOUSLY I'M

GOING, GOING TO SHOOT A

LITTLE MOVIE BASED ON REALLY

AN AMAZING STORY THAT BEGAN

WITH A FIELD PIECE THAT WE

AIRED ON THIS SHOW.

AT LEAST OUR INVOLVEMENT

WITH THE STORY.

IN 2009, YOU KNOW A LOT OF

TIMES WE HAVE CORRESPONDENT.

WE SEND THEM PLACES.

I'M TO THE GOING TO TELL YOU

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS BUT WE

ACTUALLY TRIED TO GET A

CORRESPONDENT INTO IRAN

BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN NICK

NAMED THE AXIS OF EVIL.

WE WANTED TO SEE, YOU KNOW,

WHO THESE EVIL PEOPLE WERE.

AND IT TURNED OUT THEY GOT

KIDS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY

PLAY BALL AND EAT FOOD AND

DON'T WANT TO GO TO WAR ALL

THE TIME.

BUT WE DID INTERVIEW IN 2009

A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AND IT

WAS RIGHT BEFORE THEIR

ELECTION BETWEEN AHMADINEJAD

AND MOSS OUSSAVI THAT TURNED

INTO THE GREEN MOVEMENT

WHICH TURNED INTO REALLY,

ANYWAY, THIS IS THE PIECE

WHERE WE FIRST MET MAZIAR

BAHARI S SO TAKE A LOOK.

>> Reporter: THE ISLAMIC

REPUBLIC OF IRAN, A NATION

IN UPHEAVAL.

A POWDER KEG WAITING TO

EXPLODE.

BUT AS WE EMPATHIZE WITH

THESE COURAGEOUS SOULS RISK

THEIR LIVES TO TAKE A STAND

FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE FACE OF

OPPRESSION, LET US NOT

FORGET THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL.

BUT JUST WHAT IS IT THAT

MAKES THEM SO EVIL?

I HADN'T SIGNED UP FOR

TWITTER, SO THE ONLY WAY TO

FIND OUT WAS TO GO AND SEE

FOR MYSELF.

AS I TOUCHED DOWN AT THE

AIRPORT ON MY 36th BIRTHDAY

I WAS COMPLETELY ALONE.

NO AMERICAN EMBASSY, NO

ALCOHOL, NOT EVEN EXPOSED

ANKLES TO LEER AT.

>> I HAVE A WIFE AND

CHILDREN.

PLEASE DON'T HURT ME.

>> I ASSURED MY PRODUCER TIM

GREENBERG THAT AS LONG AS HE

WAS WITH ME THERE WAS

NOTHING TO FEAR.

FIRST UP I MADE CONTACT WITH

MY TRANSLATOR MAHMOUD.

WE HEADED TO A COFFEE SHOP

FOR A CLANDESTINE PETING

WITH IRANIAN JOURNALIST

MAZIAR BAHARI.

I WAS TOLD HE WOULD GO BY

THE CODE NAME PISTACHIO AND

I WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM BY-- OH,

I DIDN'T SEE THREW.

I ASKED HIM A QUESTION ON EF

REWERNER'S MIND WHY WAS HIS

COUNTRY SO TERRIFYING.

>> IN ONE WORD

MISUNDERSTANDING.

THE TWO SIDES DON'T

UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE VALUES

OF THE OTHER SIDE.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK

TO THE OTHER SIDE.

AND ACTUALLY I HAVE WRITTEN

ABOUT THAT FOR "NEWSWEEK"

MAGAZINE SEVERAL TIMES.

>> YEAH, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND

A WORD OF THAT.

MAHMOUD, COULD YOU TRANSLATE

THAT FOR ME.

>> YES, HE IS SAYING HE HAS

WRITTEN ABOUT THIS PROBLEM

THAT YOU HAVE IN "NEWSWEEK"

MAGAZINE AND YOU CAN READ

ABOUT IT.

>> OKAY.

WHAT DID HE SAY?

>> HE SAID THAT I SAID I

HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT IT FOR

"NEWSWEEK" MAGAZINE SEVERAL

TIMES.

>> I'M GOING TO NEED SOMEONE

WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH.

>> THE ONE THING I COULD

UNDERSTAND WAS THAT THIS

ENTIRE COUNTRY IS EVIL.

THE FIRST THING TO KNOW

ABOUT IRAN IS IT IS NOT

EVIL.

>> IRANIANS AND AMERICANS

HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON

THAN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT.

>> WHAT DO I HAVE IN COMMON

WITH YOU.

>> WHO IS NUMBER ONE ENEMY

OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> AL QAEDA.

>> AL QAEDA IS ALSO THE

NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF IRAN.

ACCORDING TO AL QAEDA

MEMBERS, ANY SHI'A, ANY

IRANIAN HAS TO BE KILLED AND

IF YOU KILL AN IRANIAN YOU

WILL GO TO HEAVEN AND WILL

YOU HAVE --

>> ENOUGH OF HIS WESTERN

EDUCATED "NEWSWEEK" DOUBLE

SPEAK.

THE REAL SEETHING ANGER WAS

ON THE STREETS.

>> SO WHEN DID YOU START

HATING AMERICANS?

>> TO HATING AMERICANS?

>> UH-HUH.

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN.

>> HATING?

>> NEVER.

>> NO, NO, WE NEVER HATE

THEM.

>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO A

THING HERE WHERE WE SAY

IRANIANS HATE AMERICANS, CAN

YOU JUST DO THAT FOR ME.

>> YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO

HATE.

>> YEAH, COULD YOU.

>> TO HATE.

>> YEAH, PLEASE.

>> NO, WHY, NO.

>> I'M NOT HATE OF AMERICANS.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M NOT HATE.

>> NO, NO, APPARENTLY THEY

DIDN'T FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS

THEIR HATRED FOR US IN

PUBLIC.

SO MAHMOUD SECURED AN

INVITATION TO A PRIVATE

IRANIAN HOME.

>> HELLO.

>> HELLO.

>> HI.

>> HI.

>> OH.

YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CAVE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IF I COULD JUST EARN

THEIR TRUST I COULD FINALLY

PEERS THIS SOCIETY AND

EXPOSE THEIR TRUE FEELINGS.

OUR MEETING BEGAN WITH

TRADITIONAL SMALL TALK.

>> SO WHAT DID ONE JEWISH

BIRD SAY TO THE OTHER JEWISH

BIRD?

>> CHEAP, CHEAP.

RIGHT?

BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAP.

YOU KNOW, AND THEY LOOK LIKE

BIRDS WITH THE BIG KNOWSES.

WOW.

-- NOSES, WOW, THAT JOKE

WANT RIGHT OVER THEIR HEADS.

>> WE DON'T HATE JEWS, WE

DON'T HATE ANYBODY,

ACTUALLY.

WE DON'T HATE AMERICANS.

>> AS THE NIGHT WORE ON IT

BECAME PAINFULLY OBVIOUS.

ENGAGEMENT WITH THESE PEOPLE

WAS FUTILE.

THE GAP WAS TOO WIDE.

-- WAS INEVITABLE.

>> THIS IS YOUR BIRTHDAY

CAKE.

>> YOU'RE LIKE MY PERFECT

FAMILY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT

GUY.

>> THE LOOK ON HIS FACE TOLD

ME ONE THING, I WASN'T

GETTING MY CARTON OF

CIGARETTES BACK FROM HIS

DAUGHTER.

IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS IN FOR

A VERY LONG WEEK.

>> Jon: JASON JONES.

WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL TALK

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