Lisa Ling

  • Aired:  02/21/11
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Lisa Ling covers transgender people at different stages of transition and visits a sex offender colony in the woods of Florida. (6:46)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A REPORTER

WHOSE NEW SHOW WITH OPRAH

WINFREY NETWORK IS CALLED OUR

AMERICA WITH LISA LING.

>> I CAN'T SEE A SINGLE HINT

OF THE WOMAN HE USED TO BE AND

NEITHER CAN THE TWO MEN

WORKING OUT NEARBY.

>> JUST WALK IN THE DOOR.

I AM ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY.

I'M A DOCTOR.

I WISHED I COULD HAVE A BOTTLE

LIKE THAT.

LOOK AT THE SHOULDERS ON THIS

DUDE.

THE TRY ACCEPTS AND BUY

ACCEPTS, WELL DEFINED.

GOOD ABS.

THEY LOOK MORE AMAZING THAN

THE CALVES.

>> Jon: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO

THE SHOW LISA LING.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

>> I WOULD HAVE EMBRACED YOU,

BUT I KNOW YOU'RE HILL.

>> Jon: THE KIDS, I SWEAR TO

YOU.

>> THEY GAVE IT TO YOU.

>> Jon: THEY SPREAD MUCOUS

AROUND THE HOUSE LIKE IT'S

PUDDING.

>> SO NICE OF YOU TO COME TO

WORK AND INFECT EVERYONE ELSE

ON YOUR STAFF.

SO KIND OF YOU.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I TELL

'EM.

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

>> I'M GREAT.

>> Jon: YOU HAVE JUST

WITNESSED "OUR AMERICA."

WHAT ARE THE ASPECTS OF "OUR

AMERICA "THAT YOU SOUGHT TO

UNCOVER TO FURTHER EXPLORE?

>> WELL THE PURPOSE OF THE

SERIES IS TO BE SORT OF A

WINDOW INTO DIFFERENT ASPECTS

OF AMERICA.

WE COVER SOME TOPICS THAT

COULD BE CONTROVERSIAL.

I MEAN THIS SHOW THAT IS

AIRING TONIGHT IS CALLED

TRANSGENDERED LIFES.

YOU JUST SAW A PERSON BORN AS

A WOMAN AND NEVER IDENTIFIED

WITH BEING A WOMAN.

HE'S BEEN UNDERGOING HORMONE

TREATMENTS AND SO ON.

AS YOU CAN SEE MADE SOME

PRETTY TREMENDOUS PROGRESS.

>> Jon: WHAT HORMONES WOULD

GIVE YOU THAT IF YOU WERE

WORKING OUT?

LIKE WHAT WOULD....

>> I WISH I COULD TELL YOU.

BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY WORKING FOR

HIM.

IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SHOW.

WE COVER PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT

STAGES OF TRANSITION.

INCLUDING A SIX-YEAR-OLD CHILD

WHO WAS BORN HARRY BUT NEVER

IDENTIFIED AS A BOY.

>> Jon: AT WHAT AGE DO THEY

SAY SOMEONE WOULD FIND THEIR

GENDER IDENTITY?

COULD IT BE AT 6 OR EVEN

EARLIER THAN THAT?

>> WELL, HARRY WHO NOW GOES BY

HALEY, HE CHANGED HIS CHANGE.

BUT HER PARENTS AND THEY'RE

RAISING HER AS A GIRL BECAUSE

SHE REFUSES TO BE CALLED A BOY

OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY SAID AS SOON AS....

>> Jon: WERE THEY PREPARED FOR

SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

>> NO ONE CAN EVER PREPARE, I

DON'T THINK.

IN FACT, WE REACHED OUT TO

HUNDREDS OF PARENTS.

NOBODY WANTED TO BE ON CAMERA

EXCEPT FOR THIS COUPLE.

THEY SAID THAT THEY LIVE IN

THIS REALLY SAFE COMMUNITY.

IF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAFE

COMMUNITIES DON'T SPEAK OUT ON

BEHALF OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT

IN SAFE COMMUNITIES, THEN

THESE KIDS COULD END... BE

DESTINED FOR LIVES OF TORTURE.

IT'S REALLY... I MEAN IT

RAISES A QUESTION, WHAT WOULD

YOU DO IF YOUR CHILD NEVER

IDENTIFIED WITH THE GENDER HE

OR SHE WAS BORN.

WOULD YOU ALLOW... WOULD YOU

RAISE YOUR CHILD AS A

DIFFERENT GENDER?

HALEY'S FATHER IS A FAIRLY

RELIGIOUS MAN, CONSERVATIVE.

HE SAID THAT IT REALLY STRUCK

AT EVERYTHING THAT HE OR

CHANGED EVERYTHING HE LEARNED.

HE IS A CHURCH-GOING MAN.

KIND OF GREW UP FEELING LIKE

GAY PEOPLE, TRANSGENDERED

PEOPLE, THERE'S SOMETHING

WRONG WITH THEM.

THEY'RE SINFUL UNTIL IT

HAPPENED TO HIM.

HE JUST HAS BECOME SO LOVING

AND INDECREEDIBLE.

I REALLY ADMIRE THESE PARENTS.

>> Jon: ABSOLUTELY.

WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STORY?

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED YOUR

SHOW IS DONE.

WHAT'S NEXT AFTER THAT?

WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE?

>> THE NEXT EPISODE WE VISIT A

COLONY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA OR

IN THE WOODS OF FLORIDA THAT

CONSISTS OF SEX OFFENDERS.

>> Jon: THIS DOESN'T SEEM AS

WARM AND FUZZY.

>> IT'S NOT AS WARM AND FUZZY.

>> Jon: THE OTHER ONE FELT

LIKE MY HEART WAS OPENING UP.

AND I THOUGHT I HAVE TO TELL

YOU THE ACCEPTANCE THAT THE

COMMUNITY HAS FOR THEM.

>> THERE'S NONE.

THE REALITY IS THAT THERE ARE

OVER 700,000 REGISTERED SEX

OFFENDERS.

>> Jon: IN THIS ONE TOWN?

>> NO, NO.

>> Jon: HOLY (BEEP).

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE TAMPA.

YOU'RE KIDDING.

A JOKE, A JOKE.

>> YOU'RE NOT FAR FROM TAMPA

BUT I WON'T BE TOO SPECIFIC.

>> Jon: HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE

IN THIS COLONY?

>> IN THE ONE WE VISITED ABOUT

30 BUT THERE ARE ALLEGEDLY

HUNDREDS WHO LIVE IN THE WOODS

OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

>> Jon: IS THIS BECAUSE YOU

HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE

AWAY FROM....

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT

ARE TRUE SEX OFFENDERS OR

PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LABELED

AS SUCH DUE TO....

>> NO, THESE ARE....

>> Jon: CERTAIN LEGALITIES.

>> THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

SERVED TIME FOR....

>> Jon: OKAY.

>> IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA YOU

HAVE TO LIVE BEYOND 1500 FEET

OR 2500 FROM WHERE CHILDREN

CONGREGATE.

SO THEY'RE BEING PUSHED

ESSENTIALLY INTO THE WOODS.

WHAT THEY TOLD ME IS THAT IF A

SEX OFFENDER REALLY WANTED TO

OFFEND HE OR SHE WILL FIND A

WAY TO DO SO.

DO THESE LAWS ACTUALLY MAKE US

SAFER OR MAKE US FEEL SAFER?

>> Jon: I ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE

NAME OFFENDER ALWAYS STRUCK ME

AS SLIGHTLY LOWERING YOUR

EXPECTATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE

INDIVIDUALS DO.

LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE GET

OFFENDED WHEN YOU GO LIKE

(BEEP): THAT'S OFFENSIVE.

THAT OFFENDED ME.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, WE

SHOULD COME UP WITH A BETTER

TERM LIKE....

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: (BEEP).

>> THEY CERTAINLY ARE OUR

COUNTRIES PIRAHAS.

>> Jon: IT MAY BE THE HARDEST

GROUP TO FIND EMPATHY FOR ME.

FOR ME I FIND THAT A DIFFICULT

GROUP TO... YOU KNOW, YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT

COMMIT RAPE OR DO THINGS TO

CHILDREN.

I HAVE DIFFICULTIES BEING LIKE,

I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT

THEM.

>> OUR INTENTION ISN'T TO TRY

AND INSPIRE EMPATHY BY ANY

MEANS.

FOR SEX OFFENDERS.

IT'S JUST TO ALLOY YOU TO

UNDERSTAND THEIR... TO ALLOW

YOU TO UNDERSTAND THEIR WORLD

A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS

ISSUE ON THE PERIPHERY WE

CAN'T REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT

TO DO.

IN A WAY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO

DO IS TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE

FACT THAT THESE ARE ALSO

AMERICANS WHO COULD POSSIBLY

LIVE NEXT DOOR TO YOU.

>> Jon: YOU ARE DOING WHAT A

GOOD JOURNALIST DOES.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO.

>> Jon: AND I AM DOING WHAT

PEOPLE WHO CANNOT BE IN YOUR

BUSINESS DO.

THAT'S VERY ADMIRABLE THAT YOU

CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT

OBJECTIVE POINT OF VIEW AND

KEEP US INFORMED.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE

EXPERIENCES THROUGHOUT

DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF AMERICA.

>> Jon: COME BACK AND SEE US

AGAIN AS THE SERIES KEEPS

GOING BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO KEEP

UP WITH THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

>> I'D LOVE TO.

THANK YOU.

>> Jon: VERY GOOD.

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