Exclusive - Robyn Doolittle Extended Interview Pt. 1

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In this exclusive, unedited interview, "Crazy Town" author Robyn Doolittle charts the rise of Toronto crack Mayor Rob Ford. (6:38)

WELCOME BACK. MY GUEST TONIGHT A REPORTER FOR

THE TORONTO STAR NEWSPAPER, HER NEW BOOK CALLED "CRAZY TOWN,"

THE ROB FORD STORY, ROBYN DOOLITTLE.

[APPLAUSE]THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE. SO YOU'RE A REPORTER AT THE

TORONTO STAR. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN COVERING

TORONTO CITY HALL? >> I ARRIVED JANUARY 2010 IN

TIME TO WATCH THE MAYORAL ELECTION THAT BROUGHT US ROB

FORD.

>> WHEN YOU ARRIVED THERE AND ROB FORD BECAME MAYOR, WHAT'S

CANADIAN FOR ALLELUIA? DID YOU KNOW AT THAT POINT THIS

WILL BE AN EVENTFUL FEW YEARS FOR ME?

>> THE FIRST LITTLE WHILE THAT ROB FORD WAS MAYOR, HE WAS NEVER

THE TYPICAL MOLD OF A POLITICIAN.

HE WAS ALWAYS VERY COLORFUL AND HE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS

AND HE WAS AGGRESSIVE.

>> HE STARTED OFF SOMEWHAT POSITIVE WITH THE COLORFUL

THING. VERY QUICKLY WENT IN TO

AGGRESSIVE.

>> IT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THAT I STARTED HEARING

ABOUT DOMESTIC INCIDENTS AT THE MAYOR'S HOME, THEN RUMORS OF

DRUGS AND THEN HE STOPPED COMINGTO CITY HALL EVERY DAY.

HIS STAFF DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS SOMETIMES.

AND IT WAS A YEAR AFTER THAT THAT --

>> LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.

>> OKAY.

>> SO THERE'S RUMORS OF DOMESTICABUSE, DRUGS AND ABSENTEEISM.

>> RIGHT.

>> AND EVERYONE WAITED A YEAR. HOW DOES HE GET AWAY WITH THIS?

IS HE JUST -- WHAT KEEPS HIM LOVABLE AND IN CHARGE?

>> WELL, PART OF IT, I THINK YOUGUYS TAKE FOR GRANTED HOW GREAT

YOUR ACCESS INFORMATION LAWS AT LEAST COMPARED TO CANADIAN

LAWS.

>> REALLY?

>> I HEAR ABOUT INSTANCES,

N 2011 THE MAYOR'S WIFE'SPARENTS CALLED 911 TO SAY ROB

FORD HAD TAKEN THEIR CHILDREN, HE WAS DRUNK DRIVING AND GOING

TO THE AIRPORT.

>> OH, GOD.

>> I CALLED THE POLICE AND THEY WON'T CONFIRM THAT THE CALL EVEN

OCCURRED, THAT THEY'RE INVESTIGATING ANYTHING.

YOU CAN FILE AN ACCESS REQUEST FOR THAT AND NOT GET ANYTHING

BACK IN OUR COUNTRY. AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE

PROBLEM WHEN YOU'RE REPORTING ONTHESE ISSUES IS IT'S SO HARD TO

FOLLOW UP ON THIS STUFF. SO IT TOOK A FULL YEAR TO DO

THIS INVESTIGATION. MY PAPER TOOK A BIG RISK BY

PUTTING OUT THERE IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WITH MY COLLEAGUE

KEVIN DONOVAN WROTE A STORY SAYING THE MAYOR'S STAFF WANTED

HIM TO GO TO REHAB, THEY FELT HIS DRINKING WAS IMPACTING HIS

WORK, THAT HE HAD BEEN KICKED OUT OF A MILITARY BALL FOR

SHOWING UP IMPAIRED AND THAT WASBEFORE THE CRACK STORY.

>> THE MAN IS, IF I MAY, AN ENTIRE SEASON OF A COPS EPISODE.

AND SO NOW ALL THIS, YOU'VE DONEALL THE LEG WORK, ALL THE,

YOU'VE GOTTEN PAST THIS, YOU YOURSELF WITNESSED THE CRACK

VIDEO, THE INFAMOUS CRACK VIDEO.

CAN HE HOLD HIS CRACK? IS HE A GOOD, WHAT DOES HE

APPEAR? >> PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAY THEY ARE,

LIKE SOME OF THE SOURCES THAT I SPOKE WITH FOR MY BOOK ARE IN

AWE OF HIS STAMINA, I GUESS, FORLACK OF A BETTER WORD.

THE FACT THAT WHAT HE PUTS IN TOHIS BODY WHILE BEING AS

UNHEALTHY AS HE IS WITH THE WHOLE OTHER PART OF HIS LIFE.

>> SURE.

>> THAT WOULD BE IMPRESSIVE FOR LET'S SAY A COMPETITIVE EATER.

BUT HE IS THE MAYOR OF TORONTOAND YET HE'S RUNNING AGAIN.

>> AND I THINK OUTSIDE OF TORONTO PEOPLE KNOW ROB FORD AS

THE CRAZY CRACK-SMOKING MAYOR WHO ENDS UP ON YOUTUBE FOR DOING

STUPID STUFF. BUT THERE'S THIS REALLYINTERESTING

FASCINATING STORY THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT ABOUT A FAMILY

THAT FANCIES ITSELF A POLITICAL DYNASTY, FORD FAMILY.

>> SO IT'S LIKE THEY'RE THE KENNEDYS, IF THE KENNEDYS HAD

ALL SMOKED CRACK.

>> THEY THINK OF THEMSELVES AS CANADIAN KENNEDYS.

>> FOR REAL? >> FOR REAL.

THAT'S CHAPTER TWO.

>> BUT ALL JOKING ASIDE, SORT OFA CARICATURE, THIS MAN IS GOING

TO DIE AND PROBABLY RELATIVELY SOON.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE DISQUALIFYING FACTOR FOR

TORONTONIANS.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU. WOULD ALMOST NOT BE THE FACT

THAT YOUR MAYOR IS HORRIBLY IMPAIRED WHEN AN EMERGENCY MIGHT

ARISE BUT THE FACT HE REFUSES TOGET HELP.

>> AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THAT TO ME SHOULD BE THE

DISQUALIFYING FACTOR IN THIS.

>> RIGHT. YEAH, AND IT JUST SPEAKS TO ALARGER

POLITICAL DIVISION THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY.

BUT ALSO I THINK THE BIG TAKE AWAY FOR SO MANY POLITICIANS,

WHAT MADE ROB FORD IS THAT WHEN HE WAS A CITY COUNSELOR FOR 10

YEARS, HE RETURNED EVERY PHONE CALL THAT PEOPLE MADE TO HIM.

YOU COULD BE IN SUBURBAN, THE AREA HE REPRESENTS AND SAY I

HAVE A PIPE BUSED AT THE END OF MY STREET AND HE WOULD SHOW UP

WITH CITY STAFF AND HE WOULD FIXIT AND THROUGH THE YEARS HE

DEVELOPED THIS ARMY OF SUPPORTERS. AND HIS POLITICALMESSAGE IS VERY SIMPLE. IT'S

KEEP TAXES LOW, WE TAKE ENOUGHOF YOUR MONEY. PEOPLE AREWILLING TO OVERLOOK

ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF BECAUSE THEY FEEL HEARD.

THAT'S THE BIG TAKE AWAY.

>> LET HIM BE YOUR COUNTRY'S SUPER.

LET HIM BE THE CONCIERGE, IF YOUWILL.

PEOPLE CAN CALL HIM AND GO ROB, MY SINK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

HAPPENED. THEN HE COULD COME OVER.

EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A CRACK PARTY.

>> IT'S NOT ALL OF TORONTO. CERTAINLY HIS APPROVAL RATINGS

SHOW HE IS AROUND THE 40s.

>> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? >> THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY VOTER

INTENTION. YOU HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE CITY

DOES IN OCTOBER DURING THE ELECTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT.>> TWO SECONDS, I WANT TO ASK

YOU, ALL RIGHT, "CRAZY TOWN," ONTHE BOOK SHELVES NOW, ROB FORD

STORY. ROBYN DOOLITTLE, FINE JOB.

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