Katie Dellamaggiore & Pobo Efekoro

  • Aired:  11/08/12
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Katie Dellamaggiore and Pobo Efekoro discuss the making of "Brooklyn Castle," a documentary about chess and public school budget cuts. (7:08)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) J&J WELCOME BACK, MY GUEST THE DIRECTOR, HE IS ONE OF THE SUBJECT OF A NEW

DOCUMENTARY FILM CALLED BROOKLYN CASTLE.

>> THE AMERICAN DREAM.

>> SOME PEOPLE COMPARE TO US THE YANKEES IN CHESS BECAUSE WE'VE WON SOME OF, SO IT

MAKES DISAPPOINTMENT HARSHER.

>> HOW DID YOU DO?

>> YOU DON'T WHAT TO HAVE TO FACE THAT.

>> IT WOULD BE A SHAME BECAUSE OF SOME CORRUPT BANKER RUINING THE ECONOMY

THAT OUR KIDS COULDN'T GO ON THE TRIP.

>> AS YOUR SCHOOL PRESIDENT MY PRIMARY GOAL IS TO RESTORE MONEY LOST FROM THE

BUDGET CUT.

>> PLEASE WELCOME KATIE AND POBO.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

HOW ARE YOU.

>> GOOD.

>> Jon: AN INCREDIBLE STORY.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE THIS IS IS 318.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Jon: AND IT HAS MORE CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS THAN ANY INTERPEDIAT SCHOOL EVER.

>> EVER.

>> Jon: EVER, EVER, EVER AND DECIDE TO MAKE A FILM THERE, AND WHILE YOU ARE FILMING

THE BUDGET GETS CUT.

>> YEAH SO, WE STARTED SHOOTING AND THE SCHOOL WAS IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.

THEY HAD ALL THEIR MONEY TO GO TO TALL THEIR TOURNAMENTS AND THEN I GOT A CALL FROM

THE PRINCIPAL TELLING ME OUR BUDGET GOT SLASHED BY A MILLION DOLLARS AND I DON'T

KNOW IF WE WILL GET TO GO TO ALL THE TOURNAMENTS QZ PUBLIC SCHOOL.

>> IN BROOKLYN.

>> Jon: ONE OF THE BEST THINGS AT THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL.

>> UH-HUH.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: LET ME JUST QUICKLY BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL KEEP TALKING WHILE YOU MAKE A MOVE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: SO HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED.

DID YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT CHESS WHEN YOU WENT TO THAT SCHOOL, DID YOU GO TO THAT SCHOOL FOR THE CHESS PROGRAM.

>> I WENT THERE A LOT, WHEN I WAS YOUNG I BEGAN PLAYING CHESS WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS

OLD AND IN THE FOURTH GRADE.

AND SO I HAD AN IDEA ABOUT THE GAME AND I KNEW A LOT ABOUT THE GAME WHEN I CAME

INTO 318.

WHEN I WAS YOUNG COMPETED AGAINST 318 WAS KIND LIKE YOU ALWAYS USED TO CALL THEM

THE EVIL SCHOOL.

THEY ALWAYS USED TO BEAT US.

>> Jon: THE EVIL EMPIRE, LIKE THE YANKEES, DIFFICULT TO BEAT.

>> THE YANKEES ARE NOT EVIL EMPIRE TO ME.

>> Jon: ON THE MET'S FAN, I'M GOING TO GO WITH EVIL EMPIRE.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I GOT TO 318 I THOUGHT IT WAS A MAGNIFICENT SCHOOL

WITH A GREAT PROGRAM.

AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE TEACHERS.

AND IT WAS JUST GREAT.

>> Jon: YEAH, MAKE YOUR MOVE.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, THOUGH.

SO YOU GO THERE, AND YOU'RE DOING THAT, YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLASS.

>> YES.

>> Jon: YOU REFER TO YOURSELF AS POBAMA.

POBO.

SO YOU FIND YOURSELF JUST AFTER TAKING OFFICE IN A HUGE FISCAL DISASTER.

>> YES.

(APPLAUSE)

>> YES.

>> Jon: IN MANY WAYS THE SAME BEQUEATHED TO YOU BY YOUR PREDECESSOR WHO WAS-- WHAT BUSH PRESIDENT

318 OR NO HE WASN'T.

>> THE YEAR BEFORE HE WAS.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, DOW SUDDENLY HAVE TO SWITCH FOCUS IN YOUR FILM.

>> YEAH, WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT AT ALL.

BUT WE JUST ROLLED WITH IT.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY NOW IT WAS LIKE THIS BIG THING THAT WAS HAPPENING AND IT WAS HAPPENING AT SCHOOLS EVERYWHERE.

WHETHER THEY WENT TO TOURNAMENTS OR NOT ANY MORE WASN'T AS QUITE AS IMPORTANT AS JUST FIGURING OUT WHY THE

TEAM WAS GOOD.

AND WHAT IT WAS DOING FOR THE KIDS.

AND IT WAS DOING A LOT FOR THEM.

IT WAS REALLY UP SETTING TO FIND OUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO ALL THEIR TOURNAMENTS.

>> Jon: WHAT IS SO FASCINATING.

THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, YOU KNOW WE TALK SOME OF ABOUT WELL NOW IT'S NO CHILD LEFT

BEHIND AND WE TEACH TO THE TEXT.

AS A STUDENT THERE IS A PROGRAM IN THIS SCHOOL THAT IS CLEARLY LIGHTING UP THESE

CHILDREN'S HEARTS AND MINDS.

AND BRINGING OUT THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN THEM.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Jon: AND THE FIRST THING WE DO IN THAT SITUATION IS SAY WELL, THAT'S THE THING

THAT HAS TO GO.

YOU'RE CUTTING THE VITAL APPENDAGE NOT THE THINGS AND SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY FOR TESTS.

HOW DID THAT FEEL AS A STUDENT.

>> WOW, FIRST I WAS ANNOYED BY THE EXAMS.

(LAUGHTER) I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

AND I SAID-- .

>> Jon: TEACHING TO THE TEST AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

>> MY 8th GRADE TEACHER WAS NOT A TEACHER WHO TAUGHT TO THE TEST AND THE FACT OF THE

MATTER IS THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY THE BEST TEACHER I HAVE EVER HAD.

>> Jon: RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE TEACHING IS AN ART FORM.

>> IT, IT IS.

AND I-- IF THERE IS ANY TEACHER I REALLY RESPECT TEACHERS.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: HE DOESN'T KNOW, HE'S ONLY A STUDENT.

>> I WAS BEING SARCASTIC.

>> THE TEACHERS WORK VERY HARD AND THEY WORK SO HARD AND FOR THEM TO GET TARGETED

AS BEING DEMONIZED AS THE PROBLEM FOR WHY OUR EDUCATION IS BAD IS ABSURD.

THE TEACHERS ARE FABULOUS.

AND A LOT OF MY TEACHERS THAT I HAD, ACCORDING TO THE CITY THEY ARE BAD.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I LOVE THEM.

>> Jon: BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING NOW KRADED ON A CRITERIA THAT IS MUCH MORE SORT OF ARITHMETIC.

>> VERY BLACK AND WHITE.

UNTIL I GOT INTO-- I NEVER PLAYED CHESS AND SO TO WALK INTO A CLASSROOM -- -- (APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: HE'S KILLING ME OVER HERE, I THOUGHT I WOULD GO TO YOU, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE

IS DOING.

>> I LEARNED SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T KNOW, TO WALK INTO I A CLASSROOM AND SEE THE CHESS TEACHER TEACHING CHESS

AND FOR ME TO BE YOU KNOW, TO FIND IT SO INTERESTING WHEN HI NO IDEA WHAT SHE WAS

TALKING ABOUT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT A WONDERFUL TEACHER SHE WAS AND HOW, LIKE, SHE WAS ENGAGING KIDS

IN A WAY TAU DON'T NORMALLY SEE.

>> Jon: WHAT IS SO INTERESTING ABOUT THE FILMS IS YOU ALMOST FEEL THE LIFE

GOING ON FOR THESE KIDS.

YOU FEEL THEIR PASSION.

AND YOU FEEL-- AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES.

AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING WHEN YOU THINK THAT'S IN JEOPARDY.

>> PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE.

LIKE WHEN ARE YOU LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PAPER WITH BUDGET LINES.

CUT THAT, CUT THAT.

YOU DON'T KNOW POBO, ROCHEEL OR JUSTICE OR PATRICK OR LEXUS AND YOU DON'T REALIZE.

>> Jon: PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE.

YOU MOVED ON TO HIGH SCHOOL WRCHL ARE YOU AT IN HIGH SCHOOL.

>> I'M AT HIGH SCHOOL IN QUEENS.

>> Jon: THAT GOT A HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE, RIGHT.

PEOPLE ARE-- WHAT IS THAT NOW, HOW MANY KID GOES THERE.

>> 3900.

>> Jon: 3900.

>> YEAH RZ AND.

>> Jon: AND HOW MANY SHOULD GO THERE.

>> 2300.

>> Jon: AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS NOW.

YOU HAVE THESE INCREDIBLY INTELLIGENT PASSIONATE YOUNG PEOPLE.

IT JUST, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS INCREDIBLE.

I GIVE YOU ALL THE RESPECT IN THE WORLD.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: IT'S TREMENDOUS.

THE FILL SOME GREAT.

I URGE PEOPLE TO SEE.

IF YOU AND I WILL CONTINUE THIS GAME AS WE GO TO COMMERCIAL.

BROOKLYN CASTLE PLAYING IN SELECT CITIES, OPENING IN MORE ON FRIDAY, THROUGHOUT

THE MONTH, KATIE AND POBO, PLEASE GO SEE THIS FILM.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

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