Rod Blagojevich

  • Aired:  08/23/10
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Rod Blagojevich explains why he didn't take the stand when he had a chance to tell his side of the story. (6:55)

>> Jon: MY GUEST TONIGHT, THE

FORMER GOVERNOR OF ILLINOIS

WHOSE RECENT TRIAL ENDED IN A

HUNG JURY, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE

COUNT THEY FOUND GUILTY.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE

PROGRAM ROB BLAGOJEVICH.

>>THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> Jon: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER

TO SAY CONGRATULATIONINGS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO SAY

THANK YOU.

YOU WERE CONVICTED OF ONE COUNT.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY?

>> 23 DOWN, ONE TO GO.

THE PROCESS WILL CONTINUE.

THE ALLEGED FALSE STATEMENT WAS

ONE THAT THEY REACHED BACK FIVE

YEARS FROM FIVE YEARS AGO.

I AM APPEALING.

I WAS ARRESTED OF SELLING THE

SENATE SEAT FOR MONEY.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION

SCANDAL OF AMERICA.

THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT US

PUTTING ON A DEFENSE I DIDN'T

PROVE CORRUPTION.

>> Jon: YOU SAY "WE DIDN'T PUT

ON A DEFENSE."

YOU HAD BEEN GOING HERE, THERE,

EVERYWHERE, I CAN'T WAIT TO

TESTIFY, I'M SO EXCITED.

I'LL STAND IN LINE.

I WANT TO TELL MY STORY.

CHANCE TO TELL YOUR STORY, AND

YOU SAID, UH, NO, SILENCIO.

>> SI.

LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.

THE GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY BROUGHT

THESE CHARGES ALSO FALSELY SAID

THEIR CASE WAS GOING TO TAKE

FOUR MONTHS TO PUT ONFUL

EVERYTHING WAS PREDICATED ON THE

THINGS THEY SAID PUBLICLY.

WHEN THEY STARTED PUTTING ON

THEIR CASE, IN LESS THAN SIX

WEEKS THEY RESIDENTS.

MY LAWYER SAID, LIKE WE SAID,

THERE WAS NO CRIME, THEY DIDN'T

PROVE A CRIME.

SO THEREFORE YOU NEED TO THINK

ABOUT RESTING THECATION.

>> Jon: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

YOU AS A DICKENS CHARACTER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU AS A

VICTIM, BUT YOU MAKE IT SO HARD.

[LAUGHTER]

TO TAKE YOUR SIDE COMPLETELY.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> Jon: BY NOT DOING THAT.

>> WELL, WE'LL HAVE CHANCE IN

THE NEXT TRIAL.

>> Jon: BUT...

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY.

>> Jon: YOU'RE SAYING, DON'T

WORRY, THEY'LL TRY ME AGAIN, AND

THIS TIME I'M REALLY GOING TO

GET UP THERE?

>> I WISH YOU'D PUT IT IN THIS

PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL.

THEY THREW EVERYTHING AT ME BUT

THE KITCHEN SINK.

THEY ACCUSED ME OF THE BIGGEST

CORRUPTION SCANDAL.

THEY TOLD ALL THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE THAT.

AND BEFORE I COULD CATCH MY

BREATH, EVERYBODY THOUGHT I WAS

A SCUMBAG AROUND THE WORLD.

RIGHT?

THAT'S WHAT I WAS UP AGAINST.

>> Jon: HERE'S WHY.

YOU TELL ME YOU'RE ON THE SHOW

AND YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME.

YOU SAID... I SAID, THERE'S THAT

ONE QUOTE, VERY FAMOUS, I'VE GOT

THIS SENATE SEAT AND THIS THING

IS F-ING GOLDEN.

YOU SAID ON THE SHOW, SHOW 'EM

WHAT THEY SAID.

>> THIS IS F-ING GOLDEN.

WHAT COMES NEXT AND I CAN'T

QUOTED BECAUSE MY ACCUSER WON'T

LET ME.

>>

>> Jon: GENERALLY.

>> IT WAS ABOUT HELPING THE

STATE OF ILLINOIS, IT WAS ABOUT

POLITICS.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH

FINANCIAL GAIN OR SELLING THE

U.S. SENATE SEAT.

>> Jon: THAT IS THE TAPE YOU

SAID IF I COULD ONLY HAVE HEARD

THE NEXT LITTLE BIT.

>> WELL, THE NEXT WHOLE TAPE.

>> Jon: HERE'S THE NEXT LITTLE

BIT OF THAT TAPE.

>> I'VE GOT THIS THING, AND

BHEEP [BLEEPED] GOLDEN, AND I'M

JUST NOT GIVING IT UP FOR

NOTHING.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

AND I CAN ALWAYS USE IT TO

PARACHUTE ME THERE.

>> Jon: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

GETTING YOURSELF.

APPOINTED.

>> AS THE GOVERNOR.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

THE GOVERNOR HAS THE POWER TO

MAKE HIMSELF A SENATOR IF HE

WANTS.

IF THIS WAS ABOUT A JOB FOR ME,

I COULD HAVE DONE IT THE MOMENT

OBAMA RESIGNS.

>> Jon: I DON'T QUESTION THAT.

WHAT I QUESTION IS YOU TOLD

ME...

>> LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE

TAPE.

IT TALKS ABOUT HEALTH AND HUMAN

SERVICES.

YES, IT DOES.

JON NOT CLOSE TO IT.

YOU SAID THE NEXT FEW WORDS.

I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE.

YOU END UP GOING OFF ON A RANT

OF HOW OBAMA'S A DEMAGOG.

>> DEMIGOD, LARGER THAN GOOD,

NOT TEMPERATURE MY GOOD.

>> Jon: YOU COULD HAVE TRIED

TO STOP HIM SPEAKING AT THE

CONVENTION AND NOW NO ONE CAN

STOP HIM.

>> WE HAD A POLITICAL

DISCUSSION.

>> Jon: DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY

POINT?

YOU SAID TO ME, IF YOU COULD

ONLY HEAR THE TAPE, THE NEXT

THING, YOU WOULD SEE, BUT

ORPHANS JUST NEED FOOD, AND THE

REALITY OF WHAT YOU SAID IS VERY

DIFFERENT.

>> NO, IT IS NOT.

ON THAT VERY TAPE, AND THEY

ACCUSED ME OF THIS.

JON YOU DON'T SAY LATER IN THE

TAPE, YOU SAY RIGHT AFTER THAT.

>> SHORTLY AFTER THE DISCUSSION.

HOLD ON A MINUTE!

YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE TAPE.

I MENTION HEALTH AND HUMAN

SERVICES.

>> Jon: IS THIS WHY YOU DIDN'T

TAKE THE STAND?

>> NO, JON.

THEY MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT

ACCUSING ME.

>> Jon: DO YOU PROMISE TO TAKE

THE STAND NEXT TIME YOU'RE

INDICTED?

DO YOU PROMISE TO DO THAT?

BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY...

ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, I'M

SERIOUS, YOU'RE A GUY THAT'S THE

MOST ADAMANT ABOUT HIS INNOCENCE

OF ANYONE I EVER MET, SO YOU'RE

EITHER, LIKE I SAY, YOU'RE

EITHER THE VICTIM OF A TERRIBLE

PERSECUTION OR YOU'RE A

SOCIOPATH.

I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU'RE NOT A

SOCIOPATH, SO YOU HAVE TO COME

OUT AND NOT ON TALK SHOWS, IN A

COURT OF LAW, CLEAR YOUR NAME.

YOU HAVE TO.

>> WE HAVE A RIGHT AS A CITIZEN,

AS DO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE IN

YOUR AUDIENCE.

UNTIL THEY MOVE YOU GUILTY...

>> NO ONE IS SUGGESTING YOU

DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT, AND BY

GOD YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Jon: BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO

COME OUT AND GIVE THAT UP

PUBLICLY, STANDING IN FRONT OF A

CAMERA GOING, LET ME AT 'EM.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID YOU

WANTED TO DO IT, NOT ME.

I DON'T GIVE A [BLEEPED].

HONESTLY.

>> OKAY.

I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT.

>> Jon: HONESTLY, IF THIS IS

CORRUPTION AT THAT LEVEL, I HATE

TO SEE AN INNOCENT PERSON WITH

WHAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE NICEST

HEADS OF HAIR I THINK I'VE EVER

SEEN.

I HATE TO SEE A PERSON LIKE THAT

SUFFER THIS TYPE OF INDIGNITY.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: BECAUSE I THINK IT'S

WRONG, BUT I ALSO DO NOT LIKE

SEEING SOMEONE STAND UP AND SAY,

I'VE BEEN WRONGED, LET ME HAVE

CHANCE TO CLEAR MY NAME, AND SAY

NOTHING.

>> I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH SOME ON

THE JURY WHO MAY HAVE FELT THAT

WAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER

THIS IN THE BIG PICTURE AND WHAT

I WAS CONFRONTED WITH AND WHAT

WE STILL ARE CONFRONTED WITH.

THEY BROUGHT ALL THESE CHARGES.

THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS

CONSEQUENCES ATTACHED TO THESE

CHARGES.

THEY ARE FALSE.

THEY BRING ALL THESE WITNESSES

IN.

NINE WITNESSES INVOLVED IN THE

CASE WHO HAVE ADMITTED TO

COMMITTING CRIMES OR HAVE BEEN

FOUND GUILTY.

THEY'RE HOLDING SENTENCES OVER

THEIR HEAD.

THEY WON'T SENTENCE THESE

PEOPLE.

IF YOU TELL US WHAT WE WANT TO

HEAR ABOUT HIM, WE'LL GIVE YOU

LESS TIME IN JAIL, BUT IF YOU

DON'T DO IT, WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE

TIME IN JAIL.

THEY CHARGED ME WITH POLITICAL

HORSE TRADING.

THEY OUGHT TO CHARGE THEMSELVES

WITH CRIMES AND THROW ANOTHER

COUNT OF HYPOCRISY IN THERE.

>>

>> Jon: I DON'T THINK THEY'RE

GOING TO DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU GET OFF

SCOT-FREE, THERE'S A HUG FOR

YOU.

>> I'M D

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