Denunciation Proclamation

  • Aired:  02/24/14
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Andrew Napolitano questions the economic underpinnings of the Civil War and Lincoln's legacy, but Larry Wilmore argues that tea isn't the only black thing worth fighting for. (6:05)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

YOU KNOW, AMERICANS WE TAKECERTAIN THINGS AS GOSPEL.

GEORGE WASHINGTON NEVER TOLD ALIE.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN INVENTEDEVERYTHING.

JAMES GARFIELD WAS OUR FIRSTLASAGNA LOVING CAT PRESIDENT.

[LAUGHTER]WHAT ABOUT LINCOLN?

HERE IS ONE NETWORK'S TRIBUTE TOHIM DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

>> I'M A CONTRAIRAN ONABRAHAM LINCOLN AND I BEMOAN THEFACT THAT HE HAS BEENMYTHOLOGIZED.

>> Jon: I BELIEVE THE JUDGE ISREFERRING TO LINCOLN'S ABILITYTO KILL

VAMPIRES.

I'LL BITE.

WHY WOULD YOU BEMOAN A PRESIDENTTHAT MOST US BE-LIKE?

>> I PREFER TO LOOK AT LINCOLNTHIS WAY.

AT THE TIME HE WAS PRESIDENT OFTHE UNITED STATES SLAVERY WAS

DYING A NATURAL DEATH ALL OVERTHE WESTERN WORLD.

INSTEAD OF ALLOWING IT TO DIE ORHELPING IT TO DIE OR EVEN

PURCHASING THE SLAVES AND THENFREEING THEM WHICH WOULD HAVE

COST A LOT LESS MONEY THAN THECIVIL WAR COST, HE SET ABOUT ON

THE MOST MURDEROUS WAR INAMERICAN HISTORY.

>> Jon: OH, RIGHT. COMPENSATEDEMANCIPATION.

WHY DIDN'T HE THINK THAT?

OH HE DID THINK OF THAT. OH HESPENT MOST OF 1862 TRYING TOCONVINCE THE BORDER STATES OF

DELAWARE, KENTUCKY, MARYLAND,MISSOURI AND WEST VIRGINIA TOFREE THEIR SLAVES IN EXCHANGEFOR

MONEY AND EVERYBODY SAID(bleep).

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT WASN'T ECONOMICALLYFEASIBLE AND THE SLAVE STATESHAD A DEEPLY VESTEDSOCIO-POLITICAL

INTEREST OF MAINTAINING A TWOTIERED CULTURE BASED ON CHEAPFORCED LABOR.

FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW WHY WE AREEVEN TALKING ABOUT SLAVERY.

IT SEEMS THAT WASN'T REALLY WHATTHE CIVIL WAR WAS ABOUT.

>> IT'S NOT EVEN ALTOGETHERCLEAR IF SLAVERY WAS THE REASON

FOR SECESSION.

>> SURE.

>> LARGELY THE IMPETUS FORSECESSION WAS TARIFFS. UNLESSHE'S TALKING ABOUT A SLAVE NAMEDTARIFF, HE'S TALKING OUT OF

HIS ASS. IN THEIR OWNDECLARATIONS OF SECESSION SOUTH

CAROLINA, GEORGIA ANDMISSISSIPPI PUT SLAVERY AS THE

NUMBER ONE ISSUE WITHMISSISSIPPI SAYING QUOTE "OUR

POSITION IS THOROUGHLYIDENTIFIED WITH THE INSTITUTIONOF

SLAVERY, THE GREATEST MATERIALINTEREST OF THE WORLD." I

GUESS COULD YOU READ INTO THAT.

ALTHOUGH FOR FUTUREWHITEWASHING PURPOSES PLEASE

REMOVE THE WORD SLAVERY AND ADDTARIFFS.

WE ARE JOINED BY LARRY WILMORE.

WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA THATLINCOLN SHOULD HAVE WAITED

BECAUSE SLAVERY WOULD HAVE DIEDOF NATURAL CAUSES?

>> JON, THE SOUTH WAS SOCOMMITTED TO SLAVERY LINCOLN

DIDN'T DIE OF NATURAL CAUSES.

>> Jon: THAT WAS A

GOOD LINE.

YEAH.

>> IT'S TRUE.

>> IF THE FREE MARKET WAS JUSTABOUT TO END SLAVERY THEN WHY IS

IT STILL GOING ON IN SOMEPLACES 150 YEARS LATER.

SLAVE TRADE IS THE LITERAL EXACTOPPOSITE OF FREE MARKET.

>> Jon: LARRY, THIS ISN'T JUSTTHE JUDGE'S OPINION, THERE'S

ARTICLES, BOOKS, CONFEDERATEAPOLOGISTS IT'S AN INDUSTRY A

SCHOOL OF THOUGHT.

>> DO THEY TEACH HISTORY ATTHIS SCHOOL BECAUSE THE FACTS

ARE ALL (bleep), JON.

[ LAUGHTER ]I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE THINK

LINCOLN STARTED THE CIVIL WARBECAUSE THE NORTH WAS READY TO

KILL TO END SLAVERY WHEN THETRUTH WAS THE SOUTH WAS READY TO

DIE TO KEEP SLAVERY.

YOU ARE WELCOME, LIBERTARIANS, IJUST UN(bleep) YOUR FACTS.

>> Jon: THAT IS KIND OF YOU.

I'LL ENJOY THE E-MAILS THANKINGYOU FOR THAT, THAT I WILL

RECEIVE.

WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA THATLINCOLN COULD HAVE STOPPED

SLAVERY BY BUYING THE SLAVES,BUYING THEM.

>> YEAH, THAT'S HOW THE FREEMARKET WORKS.

WHEN A PRODUCT IS BOUGHT UPCOMPLETELY IT GOES AWAY.

IT'S WHY McDONALDS MOTTO IS1,000 SERVED AND WE'RE OUT.

BUYING ALL THE SLAVES WOULDN'THAVE BEEN PRACTICAL.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTSFOR ONE FINE SPECIMEN THAT CAN

WORK IN THE FIELD AND REPRESENTYOU IN THE HOUSE? A BREEDER I'M

TALKING ABOUT.

COME ON, JON, WHAT WOULD YOU PAYFOR A SUCH A VERSATILE YOUNG

BUCK?

>> Jon: THIS IS VERYUNCOMFORTABLE FOR ME.

>> BECAUSE WE SHOULD

NEVER BUYPEOPLE.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

>> THE PROBLEM HERE ISNAPOLITANO'S ECONOMIC ARGUMENTSTILL

CONSIDERS PEOPLE ASTHOUGH THEY'RE PROPERTY. THESAME PEOPLE WHO SAY THE CIVILWAR WAS TOO HIGH A PRICE

HAVE NO PROBLEM SHEDDINGAMERICAN BLOOD FOR A MORE WORTHYCAUSE.

THE FOUNDINGFATHERS RISKED AS THEYLIKED TO TELL US THEIR

LIVES, FORTUNES AND SACREDHONORS FOR THE FREEDOM AND

INDEPENDENCE THEY WON AND WEINHERITED.

>> IT WAS HEROIC TO FIGHT A WARFOR THE PROPOSITION THAT ALL MENARE CREATED EQUAL

BUT WHEN THERE'S A WAR TOENFORCE THAT PROPOSITION THAT'S

WHACK?

THERE'S SOMETHING NOT RIGHT WHENYOU FEEL THE ONLY BLACK THING

WORTH FIGHTING FOR IS TEA.

I GET IT.

THAT'S A GOOD WAR BECAUSE IT'SABOUT TAXES.

>> TAXATION IS THEFT IN AMERICAAND OUR SHEEP-LIKE ACCEPTANCE OF

IT SEEMS TO AVOID THE MORALISSUE OF GOVERNMENT TAKING

PROPERTY FROM US AGAINST OURWILL.

>> I KNOW, I KNOW.

YOU THINK IT'SIMMORAL FOR THE GOVERNMENT

TO REACH INTO YOUR POCKET, RIPYOUR MONEY AWAY FROM ITS WARMHOME AND CLAIM IT AS ITS OWN

PROPERTY.

MONEY THAT USED TO ENJOYUNFETTERED FREEDOM IS NOWCONSCRIPTED TO DO WHATEVER ITSOWNER TELLS IT TO.

I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE ALEAP, BUT YOU KNOW THAT SADNESSAND RAGE YOU FEEL ABOUT YOURMONEY?

THAT IS HOW SOME OF US FEELABOUT PEOPLE?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Jon: LARRY WILMOREEVERYBODY.

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