Rachel Maddow

  • Aired:  05/03/11
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Rachel Maddow thinks the media needs to be humble and not get too far ahead of the facts when reporting on the death of Osama bin Laden. (6:27)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK MY GUEST

TONIGHT, THE HOST OF MSNBC'S

"THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW."

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME

BACK TO THE SHOW RACHEL MADDOW.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> NICE TO SEE YOU, TOO.

>> Jon: I AM... I AM SO GLAD

TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU I

COULDN'T EVEN SHAKE YOUR HANDS.

I WAS CONTAGIOUS WITH THE BU

BONS.

YOU AND YOUR STAFF WERE VERY

KIND WITH SLIPPERS AND GINGER

ALE.

I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE.

>> I FELT MYSELF SLIPPING INTO

THAT KIND OF FEELING WITH HITLER

AND THE SEX SCENE CAMEO FROM THE

WHATTINGHAM PALACE?

I GOT A LITTLE...

>> Jon: I FOUND IT VERY

TASTEFUL.

>> REALLY?

[LAUGHTER]

>> Jon: GIVEN WHAT SOME OF OUR

ORIGINAL CHOICES WERE.

[LAUGHTER]

BUT CAN I TELL YOU MY FAVORITE

PART ABOUT ALL, THAT TRYING TO

EXPLAIN TO THESE GUYS WHAT WE

WANTED THEM TO DO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

NOW, A STRAP-ON WITH HITLER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HITLER.

ADOLF HITLER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND WE'D LIKE HIM TO BE WEEPING.

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST.

WE NEED IT BY MONDAY.

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

THESE ARE FOR A NEWS PERSON I

IMAGINE THESE ARE EXCITING

TIMES.

DO THEY CALL YOU WHEN SOMETHING

LIKE THIS HAPPENS AND SAY, GET

DOWN HERE.

DOES YOUR BEEPER GO OFF?

>> YEAH.

LOTS OF PEOPLE START CALLING,

AND EVERYBODY ON MY STAFF IS

VERY NICE AND THEY SAY, HEY,

YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TOO

IMPORTANT TONIGHT, ARE YOU?

AND THEN THE BOSS CALLS AND

SAYS, RUN TO THE STUDIO.

SO IT'S VERY... IT'S EXCITING.

IT MAKES YOU FEEL... IT'S ONE OF

THOSE TIMES WHEN IF YOU HAVE A

BIG EGO ABOUT WORKING IN THE

NEWS BUSINESS, IT'S GOING TO GET

WORSE, BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS

HAPPENED TO OSAMA BIN LADEN AND

I'M THE ONE WHO IS NEEDED NOW?

I'M NOT SURE THAT I AM.

>> Jon: HOP IN THE NEWS

MOBILE.

>> HOP IN THE NEWS MOBILE.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STORIES

THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MESS UP

UNLESS YOU TRY TO GET OUT AHEAD

OF IT.

ESSENTIALLY OUR JOB RIGHT NOW IS

TO GIVE THE INFORMATION, GIVE

THE INFORMATION TO AN AMERICAN

PUBLIC THAT IS INCREDIBLY,

INCREDIBLY HUNGRY TO HEAR IT IN

GREAT DETAIL BECAUSE EVEN IF

YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE

OUT THERE SINGING IN THE STREETS

ABOUT THIS, WE'RE ALL HAVING AN

EMOTIONALLY CATHARTIC REACTION

TO IT.

>> Jon: VERY VISCERAL.

>> AND I THINK WE JUST NEED

TO... I THINK WE NEED TO BE

HUMBLE AND NOT GET TOO FAR AHEAD

OF THE FACTS, NOT GET

IDEOLOGICAL ABOUT IT AND JUST

LET PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS

WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

IT'S SUCH A BIG DEAL.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT TOOK TEN

YEARS.

>> Jon: WHAT'S SO GREAT IS

WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

REALLY DID LAST FOR OVER I THINK

LIKE 47 MINUTES AS I WATCHED THE

NEWS.

DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THAT?

IT WAS LIKE THAT FIRST NIGHT

EVERYBODY WAS IN THAT MODE.

THE NEXT NIGHT IT'S LIKE, WHAT

DO YOU THINK FOR OBAMA'S POLL

NUMBERS.

IT ALL OF A SUDDEN DEVOLVED BACK

INTO THE REGULAR SORT OF

CATEGORIES THAT THE NEWS HAS TO

PLACE THINGS IN AS THEY GO

ALONG.

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO THINK

THIS IS A TIME WHEN THIS IS ONE

OF THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU EITHER

PROVED YOURSELF AS A JERK OR YOU

PROVED YOURSELF NOT.

IF YOU CAN RESIST THAT

TEMPTATION, I HONESTLY THINK THE

WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TRYING THE

LEAD EVEN THE MEDIA.

THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TRYING

THE SAY, THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR

UNITY.

THIS IS NOT A TIME TO TALK ABOUT

POLITICS.

THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR

RECRIMINATION.

LET'S CONGRATULATE THE PEOPLE

WHO DID IT.

THERE IS A NEWS EQUIVALENT TO

THAT WHICH IS STAYING CLOSE TO

THE FACTS AND NOT TRYING TO MAKE

THIS HELP YOU SCORE WHATEVER

POLITICAL POINT YOU WANT TO

MAKE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO SCORE

POLITICAL POINTS.

OSAMA BIN LADEN WILL BE DEAD

FOREVER.

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS NEVER COMING

BACK.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: VERY QUICKLY, CAN YOU

CONFIRM THAT?

BECAUSE...

[LAUGHTER]

AS WE SAW, BUT IMMEDIATELY YOU

ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OBJECTIVE

REALITY THAT YOU LIVE INCH I

TURN ON THE NEWS AND IMMEDIATELY

YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL,

IS HE DEAD?

IT'S AWFULLY WEIRD THAT... DO

YOU THINK THEY DID IT TO

DISTRACT FROM THE BIRTH

CERTIFICATE.

[LAUGHTER]

AND YOU THINK TO YOURSELF,

REALLY?

THAT'S WHAT'S LIVING IN YOUR

HEAD?

IS THAT... ARE YOU THAT JUST

INSANE?

>> THE IDEA THAT THE BIRTH

CERTIFICATE IS THE REAL STORY.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND OSAMA BIN LADEN IS THE

DISTRACTION FROM IT TELLS YOU

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY

INVESTED IN THE BIRTH

CERTIFICATE STORY.

IF YOU THINK THAT OSAMA BIN

LADEN IS THE DISTRACTION THAT

AMERICA NEEDS, I THINK THAT PUTS

THAT IN THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE.

THE WHOLE LIKE IF WE DON'T SEE

THE PICTURES, NONE OF US WILL

EVER BELIEVE HE'S DEAD THING IS

A COUNTRY THAT I DON'T

RECOGNIZE.

>> Jon: AND IF THEY SHOW THE

PICTURES, THEY'LL GO, YOU SEE

THIS SHADOW, IT'S PHOTOSHOPPED

IN.

YOU CAN TELL THAT IT DOESN'T

REALLY DO THAT.

DID THEY TELL YOU GUYS BEFORE

THE PRESIDENT MADE HIS SPEECH

WHAT HAD HAPPENED?

DID EVERYONE KNOW?

>> WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF

WHAT THE PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO

ANNOUNCE, BUT NOT THAT FAR OUT

IN ADVANCE.

I MEAN, NOT... NOBODY HAD

ADVANCED PLANNING NOTES FOR

SUNDAY NIGHT SOMETHING'S GOING

TO HAPPEN.

IT WASN'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.

BUT ONCE IT WAS CLEAR THE

PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO MAKE AN

ANNOUNCEMENT, THEN PEOPLE

STARTED GETTING WORD ABOUT WHAT

THE GENERAL CONTENT OF THAT

WOULD BE.

>> Jon: IT WAS FUNNY TO WATCH

PEOPLE BE SO COY, BECAUSE YOU

KNEW THEY KNEW, AND SO THEY WERE

... I CAN TELL YOU THAT

IT'S... IT'S C.I.A.

IT INVOLVES A VERY SKINNY MAN, A

SKINNY MAN, MAN THAT YOU MIGHT

THINK HAS RICKETTS.

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW.

LIKE THEY WERE TRYING.

HOW DO YOU WALK THAT LINE?

>> IT'S THE SAME WAY THAT YOU

DEAL WITH AN EMBARGO SPEECH.

SOMETIMES A COUPLE MINUTES

BEFORE THE PRESIDENT OR SOMEBODY

ELSE VERY IMPORTANT IS GOING TO

GIVE A SPEECH, YOU GET THE FULL

TEXT, AND THEN YOU GET ALL THESE

PUNDITS SAY, WHAT WE OUGHT TO

EXPECT... YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE

A SPEED READER.

I CAN SEE YOU SKIPPING AHEAD TO

PREDICT THE THING THAT YOU KNOW

IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF ALL

THE TIME.

>> SUDDENLY I FELT LIKE I WAS

THE STUDENT WHO GOT TO HANG

AROUND.

LIKE WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THAT

HAPPENS?

YOU GET THE SPEECH BEFOREHAND.

>> REALLY?

>> Jon: WELL, YOU CONTINUE TO

DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: I ENJOYING SEEING YOUR

PROGRAM.

IT'S VERY NICE OF YOU TO COME BY

AND SEE US.

I KNOW YOU'RE VERY

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