Jehane Noujaim

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Documentarian Jehane Noujaim remembers the intense early days of protest against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. (6:23)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT A DOCUMENTARYFILMMAKER HER LATEST FILM ON THE

SHORT LIST FOR AN ACADEMY AWARDNOMINATION IS CALLED "THE

SQUARE."

>> Jon: PLEASE WELCOME JEHANENOUJAIM.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]NICE TO SEE YOU.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS.

IT IS THE -- THE FOOTAGE, THESTORIES ARE INCREDIBLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: THEY ARE GRIPPING.

THE IDEA AS YOU EVEN SAW JUST INTHAT CLIP, RIFLES BEING

POINTED -->> IT WAS INTENSE.

>> Jon: AND YOU ARE FILMING.

>> A NUMBER OF US.

THE WHOLE CREW MET IN THE SQUAREAND SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF

PEOPLE FILMING.

>> Jon: HOW DID THIS COMEABOUT?

>> I WENT DOWN AS A PROTESTERJUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DID,

MET MY ENTIRE CREW IN THESQUARE, MET THE CHARACTERS IN

THE SQUARE.

WE WERE SLEEPING NEXT TO EACHOTHER IN TENTS.

>> Jon: THIS IS THE ORIGINALUPRISING AGAINST MUBARAK, NOT

THE MOST RECENT ONE.

>> THIS WAS STARTING IN JANUARY2011.

I LANDED IN EGYPT, GOTTENARRESTED 20 MINUTES

AFTER LANDING AT THE AIRPORTBECAUSE THEY FOUND AN OLD FILM I

DID CALLED "EGYPT WE'RE WATCHINGIT."

NOT THE BEST FILM TO BE FOUND BYMILITARY INTELLIGENCE.

>> Jon: DO YOU TRAVEL WITH ALLYOUR FILMS IN THE BAG?

>> I WAS HANDING OUT THE DVDS TOPEOPLE IN THE MOVIE.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS IN THE BAG.

THEY LET ME GO AFTER EIGHTHOURS.

AFTER I TRIED TO GET RID OF IT.

THEY FOUND IT IN THE DRAIN.

THEY HELD UP THE CHARD OF GLASSAS EVIDENCE.

I CONFESSED ALL.

THEY FINALLY LET ME GO AND WENTTO THE SQUARE.

IT WAS MAGICAL, MEN, WOMEN, ALLDIFFERENT CLASSES, MOST OF THEM

CHRISTIANS BASICALLY FIGHTINGFOR A DIFFERENT COUNTRY.

>> Jon: IT WAS AMAZING TO SEEIN THE EARLY DAYS, TOO, MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD AND SECULARISTS ANDSO CALLED LIBERALS, SO CALLED

CONSERVATIVES, PEOPLE OF ALLDIFFERENT POLITICAL PERSUASIONS

FORMING A VERY COMMON BOND ANDETHOS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

WE GREW UP IN AN EGYPT WHEREUNDER EMERGENCY LAW YOU CAN'T

HAVE MORE THAN FOUR OR FIVEPEOPLE MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT

POLITICS.

IT WAS UNHEARD OF.

AN INCREDIBLE FEELING.

>> Jon: THIS WAS FOR 30 YEARSPEOPLE LIVED UNDER THIS REGIME

OF MUBARAK.

>> EXACTLY.

>> Jon: YOU MAKE THE FILM, ITGOES TO SUNDANCE AND IT IS AN

ENORMOUS HIT.

THIS WAS WHEN?

>> THAT WAS JANUARY OF THISYEAR, YEAH.

2013.

>> Jon: SO YOUR FILM IS A HIT.

>> WON THE AUDIENCE AWARD.

THE PEOPLE SPOKE.

>> Jon: THE PEOPLE SPOKE ANDYOU REALIZE LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE

GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER REVOLUTIONTHERE.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> WE WENT BACK.

IT HAPPENED AS WE WERE ON THEWAY TO SUNDANCE.

PEOPLE WERE THERE SAYING MORSIIS USING THE TOOLS OF DEMOCRACY

TO CREATE ANOTHER DICTATORSHIP.

WE COULDN'T END THE STORY THEREBECAUSE IT WAS CONTINUING.

AS IT CONTINUES TODAY.

PEOPLE ARE STILL ON THE STREETSFIGHTING.

PEOPLE HAVE JUST BEEN THROWN INJAIL AGAIN.

WE BASICALLY GO BACK.

CONTINUE FILMING, REEDIT THEFILM AND OPEN IT IN TORONTO.

>> Jon: THE CRAZY THING NOWTHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE COME

TOGETHER, NOW THE DIVISIONSBEGIN TO CLEAVE AGAIN AND YOU

WATCH THAT GO DOWN.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

>> IT IS.

I MEAN I THINK -- WELL, YOU HAVETO SEE THE FILM BUT I THINK THAT

THE FILM -->> Jon: WE DON'T HAVE TO.

WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY.

BUT I WOULD SAY THIS, YOU SHOULDCHOOSE TO.

[ LAUGHTER ]QUITE AMAZING.

CONTINUE.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> IN ORDER TO KNOW THE ENDING

OF THE FILM YOU HAVE TO SEE THEFILM.

IN GENERAL WITHOUT SPOILING THEENDING IT'S A POSITIVE LOOK

BECAUSE IT LOOKS AT THEFRIENDSHIPS THAT STAY TOGETHER

DESPITE THE POLITICAL DIVIDE.

>> Jon: YES.

>> WE COVER FROM ALL THESEDIFFERENT ANGLES,

WHAT IT FEELS TO BE IN THEMIDDLE OF REVOLUTION.

YOU SEE THE HEADLINES IN THENEWS, MILLION MAN MARCH, OR THE

BLOODIEST BATTLE, YOU NEVER SEETHE MARTIN LUTHER KING OR THE

GANDHI WHEN THEY'VE LOSTEVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY LEFT

THEM AND THEY ARE ALONE ANDLONELY.

YOU WATCH CHANGE HAPPEN.

>> Jon: HOW GREATNESS EMERGESFROM THIS CHAOS.

PEOPLE FILL THE MOMENT WITHCOURAGE, WITH INSPIRATION.

IT'S AMAZING TO WATCH ORDINARYPEOPLE TAKE ON THAT MANTLE.

>> THANK YOU.

WE'VE HAD SOME INCREDIBLE HEROESPOP UP DURING THIS REVOLUTION.

ONE OF THEM BASSEM YOUSSEFWHO YOU SUPPORTED. I THANK YOU

ON BEHALF OF ALL EGYPTIANS.

>> Jon: IT'S THE LEAST WE CANDO.

I SUPPORT THEM FROM HERE.

REALLY.

[LAUGHTER]IT'S QUITE LUXURIOUS.

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S HORRIBLEBECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SHOWING THE

FILM EVERYWHERE, ALL OVER THEPLACE IN THE STATES.

I TALKED TO THEMAIN CHARACTER IN THE FILM AND

SAID I'M SORRY BECAUSE WEHAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SHOW IT IN

EGYPT YET.

WE'RE WAITING FOR PERMISSION TORELEASE IT IN EGYPT.

>> Jon: HERE IS WHAT WE'LL DO.

CAN YOU STICK AROUND?

>> I CAN STICK AROUND.

>> Jon: WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT,ABOUT WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND WHY YOUARE HAVING TROUBLE SHOWING

IT THERE.

THE SQUARE IS AVAILABLE ONNETFLIX AND IN SELECT CITIES ON

JANUARY 17.

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