Kay Bailey Hutchison

  • Aired:  05/01/13
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Former Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison shares bits of Texas history and weighs in on the quality of her Senate replacement, Ted Cruz. (8:32)

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A FORMER

UNITED STATES SENATOR FOR THE

GREAT STATE OF TEXAS.

HER NEW BOOK IS PIONEERING WOMEN

WHO SHAPED TEXAS.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE

PROGRAM KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON.

HOW ARE YOU?

HAVE A SEAT.

WELL, WE GOT SO MUCH TO TALK

ABOUT, WE'LL START HERE WITH THE

BOOK YOU'VE JUST WRITTEN

UNFLINCHING COURAGE PIONEERING

WOMEN WHO SHAPED TEXAS.

YOU TALK ABOUT JANE LONG, THE

MOTHER OF TEXAS.

>> RIGHT.

Jon: HOW DID SHE GET TO BE

THE MOTHER OF TEXAS?

>> BECAUSE SHE CAME IN FIRST,

BACK IN REALLY THE EARLIEST

1800s BEFORE THERE WAS

ANYTHING THERE.

AND BLESS HER HEART, HER HUSBAND

WAS LEAVE LEADING WHAT WAS

THOUGHT TO BE A REVOLUTION

AGAINST THE MEKS SCAN

GOVERNMENT.

>> Jon: TURNED OUT TO BE... I

MEAN, YOU REALLY EXTRAPOLATE THE

STORY.

>> WELL, ANYWAY, SHE WAS LEFT ON

GALVESTON ISLAND BY HERSELF,

PREGNANT AND WITH ONE HELPER.

AND SHE WAITED FOR HIM.

PEOPLE TRIED TO COME AND TAKE

HER TO CIVILIZATION.

SHE STAYED THERE BY HERSELF, HAD

THE BABY BY HERSELF AND THEN HE

HAD ALREADY BEEN ASSASSINATED IN

MEXICO.

>> Jon: THEY SHE...

UNBEKNOWNST TO HER.

Jon: THAT'S WILD.

THAT WAS REALLY TOUGH.

SHE STAYED IN TEXAS.

>> Jon: TEXAS HAS THE STRAIN OF

A REBELLIOUSNESS WHERE YOU'RE

NOT SURE, EVEN BACK THEN DO THEY

BELONG TO THE SPANISH OR MEXICAN

TERRITORIES, IN THE UNITED

STATES THERE'S THAT STREAK OF

LIKE WE'RE TEXANS.

WE'RE NOT REALLY A PART OF

ANYTHING.

WE'RE OUR OWN ENTITY.

>> YOU KNOW, THERE IS A WHOLE

HISTORY OF FIGHTING THE

ELEMENTS, HARSH WEATHER, HARSH

LAND, THE COMANCHE RAIDS WHICH

WERE VERY BRUTAL TO THE PEOPLE

SETTLING OUT WEST.

THERE IS THAT INDEPENDENCE AND

THAT KIND OF CAN-DO SPIRIT STILL

IN TEXAS.

>> Jon: THEY STILL HAVE THAT

THING.

OBVIOUSLY EVERY PIONEERING IN

DIFFERENT AREAS SORT OF HAS

THAT.

BUT THEY REALLY HELD ON TO THAT

TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T

MESS WITH THEM.

>> WELL, THEY DID FIGHT FOR

THEIR INDEPENDENCE.

FROM MEXICO.

AND THEN THEY WERE A REPUBLIC

FOR TEN YEARS.

AND THEN THEY CAME INTO THE

NATION AS A NATION UNDER TREATY.

THAT FIERCE INDEPENDENCE IS WHAT

HAS REALLY PASSED THROUGH THE

GENERATIONS.

>> Jon: WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS

HAPPENED TO TEXAS WITH LIKE THIS

GUY CRUZ?

AND RICK PERRY?

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOOD.

>> WELL, LET ME SAY...

(LAUGHING).

( APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: YOU KNOW, LOOK, AND WHAT

COUNTRY DO THEY WANT TO JOIN

NOW?

>> TED CRUZ IS VERY BRIGHT.

Jon: VERY.

PRINCETON GRADUATE.

HARVARD LAW SCHOOL.

HE'S A BRIGHT PERSON.

SO I THINK THAT HE IS VERY

COMMITTED TO HIS CAUSE OF TRYING

TO KEEP AMERICA FREE.

>> Jon: SURE.

EVERYTHING YOU SAID COULD HAVE

DESCRIBED LEX LEUTOR.

>> (LAUGHING)

Jon: HERE'S WHAT I DON'T GET

ABOUT THE SENATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COSPONSORED,

WHAT WAS IT, AN INFRASTRUCTURE

BANK WITH KERRY, RIGHT?

>> I DID

Jon: IT'S A BIPARTISAN, VERY

MODERATE, VERY HARD TO ARGUE

WITH AN INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.

IT GETS SHOT DOWN.

BACKGROUND CHECK ON GUNS, GETS

SHOT DOWN IN THE SENATE SO TO

SPEAK.

NO PUN INTENDED.

TOO MANIY COMES OUT AND SAYS ONE

OF THE REASONS WHY IS THE

REPUBLICANS WERE TOLD ANY

COOPERATION WITH OBAMA IS A

VICTORY FOR HIM SO WE WILL GIVE

HIM NONE.

THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO LOOK

BIPARTISAN.

HOW CRAZY IS THAT?

>> WELL, LET ME SAY PAT TOO

MANIY, THE SENATOR FROM

PENNSYLVANIA, DID A YEOMAN'S JOB

>> Jon: HE AND JOE MANCHIN GOT A

COMPROMISE BILL.

>> REALLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

ARE FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS.

THEY ARE

>> Jon: LIKE 90%.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: RIGHT BUT HE HAS COME

OUT AND SAID, IF THAT DICTATE

HAD NOT GONE OUT FROM SENATOR

McCONNELL, MORE OF HIS

COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR

IT.

SOME OF THEM BELIEVE IN

BACKGROUND CHECKS BUT THEY

DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE OBAMA A

VICTORY.

AND HASSLES SAID IF THE N.R.A.

DIDN'T SCORE IT, THEY WOULD HAVE

HAD 70 VOTES INSTEAD OF 54.

>> WELL, THE LATTER THING THAT

YOU HAVE SAID IS PROBABLY MORE A

REASON.

I DON'T THINK MITCH McCONNELL

PUT OUT A DICTATE OF HOW YOU

SHOULD VOTE ON THIS.

I THINK IT WAS...

>> Jon: HASN'T THAT BOOK COME

OUT THOUGH McCONNELL, YOU GUYS

WERE AT A RETREAT.

I THINK YOU WERE STILL IN THE

SENATE.

YOU WERE PROBABLY THERE AND HE

SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO

COOPERATE WITH THIS

ADMINISTRATION.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM ANY

BIPARTISAN VICTORY.

EVEN A SENATOR WENT ON RECORD AT

THAT MEETING AT THE LIBRARY OF

CONGRESS.

YOU GUYS WERE IN THE BASEMENT OF

THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.

>> I DON'T THINK MITCH EVER

MEANT TO SAY WE'RE NEVER GOING

TO COOPERATE WITH PRESIDENT

OBAMA BECAUSE HE...

>> Jon: BUT...

HE DIDN'T NEGOTIATE.

HE NEGOTIATED OFF THE FISCAL

CLIFF.

MITCH McCONNELL DESERVES A LOT

OF CREDIT.

HONESTLY HE DOES.

HE AND JOE BIDEN, YES.

HE AND JOE BIDEN LITERALLY...

>> Jon: DON'T YOU THINK THAT HAS

A RESOUNDING EFFECT ON A CAUCUS

WHEN THE LEADER SAYS, HEY, MAN,

WHATEVER HAPPENS, IF YOU WORK

WITH THIS GUY, THAT'S A VICTORY

FOR HIM.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

THINK OF ALL THE COMMON SENSE

THINGS.

INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.

BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT HAVE

FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE OF

THIS.

>> WELL THE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK

I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR

OUR COUNTRY.

PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT WITH

PUBLIC AND BUILD BRIDGES AND

WATER SUPPLIES

>> Jon: IN THE SENATE THAT

YOU'RE IN THERE, THE SAUCER OF

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY WHERE BAD

IDEAS COME TO, LIKE BROWNIES ON

A WINDOW SILL.

HOW DOES THAT IDEA NOT GET PAST

THAT BODY IF IT DOESN'T GET PAST

THEM, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE ISN'T

GOING TO DO IT.

IT'S LIKE ANIMAL HOUSE IN THE

HOUSE.

>> WELL, ON THAT POINT, IT WAS

SO MUCH LESS OF A... OF AN ISSUE

IN THE FOREFRONT.

I THINK IF WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN

THAT OUT AND IF WE HADN'T HAD

THE FISCAL CLIFF AND

SEQUESTRATION AND THE HIGH DEBT

>> Jon: THAT WAS SELF-CREATED.

WELL, BUT I'M SAYING THOSE

THINGS TOOK PRECEDENT.

I DO THINK FROM INFRASTRUCTURE

BANK GOES IN THAT THERE WILL BE

A LOT OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.

I HAVE TO ALSO SAY THERE WAS

BIPARTISAN SUPPORT OF THE

AMENDMENT THAT WOULD KILL THE

BACKGROUND CHECKS.

I MEAN THAT WAS NOT ALL

REPUBLICANS EITHER

>> Jon: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE PASSED THE

MAJORITY.

FOR SOME REASON THE THRESHOLD

WAS 60 RATHER THAN 50.

IT WOULD HAVE PASSED THE 50

CERTAINLY BUT YOU DON'T MISS IT

AT ALL, DO YOU?

>> I DON'T.

Jon: HERE'S WHAT I THINK IT

PROBABLY DOES AND I SAY THIS AS

I SEE THE LIGHT IN YOUR EYES

THAT HAVE PROBABLY GONE OUT.

IT KILLS YOUR SOUL.

DOES IT NOT?

>> IT'S VERY HARD RIGHT NOW.

IT'S THE HARDEST.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS AND I

HAVEN'T MISSED ONE MINUTE.

>> Jon: JANE LONG HAS AN

OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THE

UNITED STATES AND STAY ON THE

ISLAND ALONE.

AND IT'S THE ISLAND.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

UNFLINCHING COURAGE IS ON THE

BOOK SHELVES RIGHT NOW.

KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON.

>> THANK YOU SO

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