Mitch Daniels Pt. 2

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Governor Mitch Daniels asks Americans to save the country's safety net by helping the government create a Social Security 2.0 for the younger generation. (7:04)

WE'RE BACK.

WE'RE TALKING WITH GOVERNOR

MISSION DANIELS.

WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND, BUT

GETTING MORE DIRECTLY TO THE

POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE

REPUBLICANS ARE DOING EVERYTHING

THEY CAN TO PROTECT THE

WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THIS

COUNTRY THROUGH POLICY AND

THROUGH RHETORIC.

AND I GUESS I'M JUST NOT

UNDERSTANDING WHY.

AND I'M HAVING A PROBLEM.

THIS DECADE HAS NOT BEEN A BAD

DECADE FOR THE WEALTHIEST OF

AMERICANS, AND IF THEY ARE THE

JOB CREATORS, WHY ARE THEY NOT

CREATING?

>>

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING?

IT FEELS LIKE FALSE ARGUMENT TO

ME.

>> WELL, JON, YOU'VE GOT THE

WRONG GUEST IF THAT'S YOUR

QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE BEEN

TELLING MY FELLOW CITIZENS FOR

AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN... THIS IS

THE ONLY ELECTED JOB I EVER

INTEND TO BE IN.

IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS TO SEE

THE PEOPLE OF GREAT MEANS MAKE

MORE MONEY.

IT IS OUR BUSINESS TO SEE THE

PEOPLE WITHOUT MUCH MONEY HAVE

CHANCE TO MAKE MORE.

THAT'S WHAT'S BOTHERING ME.

>> Jon: SO YOU'RE A SOCIALIST?

>> SOCIALISM IS A VERY EFFECTIVE

MECHANISM FOR SPREADING MISERY.

THAT'S WHY I'M NOT.

>> Jon: IN YOUR MIND, IS THE

RHETORIC YOU'RE HEARING FROM

YOUR PARTY MISGUIDED?

>> WELL, I THINK IT CAN STAND

SOME IMPROVEMENT.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST POINT OF THIS

BOOK.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY TO FOLKS

WHO GENERALLY LOOK AT THE WORLD

AS I DO, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW,

LET'S TRY TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE

OF UNITY.

THE PROBLEMS WE FACE ARE GOING

TO TAKE A VERY LARGE CONSENSUS

OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE

ABOUT OTHER THINGS WILL NEED TO

GET TOGETHER AND SAY, LET'S TAKE

THE STEPS THAT WILL SAVE US ALL.

NO ONE WILL SUFFER MORE IF WE

DRIFT OVER FISCAL NIGHING A

REMARKS WHICH WE ARE

MATHEMATICALLY CERTAIN TO BE

HEADED FOR IF WE DON'T MAKE A

FEW CHANGES.

NO ONE WILL SUFFER MORE THAN THE

MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

THEY ALWAYS DO.

BUT IT'S A PRACTICAL QUESTION,

AND I'M OPEN MINDED, AND I THINK

OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD BE.

I'VE SAID HERE AND IN OTHER

PLACES, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TELL

YOU WHAT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO

GET MORE REVENUE TO, GET MORE

ECONOMIC GROWTH, TO GET THE

SPENDING, THE UNAFFORDABLE

SPENDING DOWN, SO LET'S DO THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE A SECOND BEST WAY,

BRING IT ON, LET ME HEAR IT.

>> Jon: SO IN THE LANGUAGE OF

UNITY, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR THREE

STEPS, YOUR PRESCRIPTION?

THE PRESCRIPTION I'VE HEARD FROM

THE PRESIDENT APPEARS TO BE CUT

SPENDING IN CERTAIN AREAS AND

RAISE TAXES ON THE TOP 1% OR

ALLOW THE BUSH TAX...

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CUT

SPENDING.

I KEEP BEING REMINDED OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, LORD, MAKE ME CHASTE,

BUT NOT JUST YET.

>> Jon: WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

>> WE OUGHT TO SAVE THE SAFETY

NET.

YOU START BY SAYING THE PEOPLE

WHO RELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND

MEDICARE TODAY, DON'T WORRY

ABOUT A THING.

NOTHING SHOULD CHANGE FOR YOU OR

EVEN FOR THOSE PEOPLE

APPROACHING THE SYSTEM.

YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.

A DEAL IS A DEAL.

NOW, PLEASE HELP US CREATE A

SOCIAL SECURITY 2.0 STARTING IN

THE FUTURE SO THAT YOUNGER

PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING FOR YOUR

RETIREMENT NOW HAVE A CHANCE TO

BE PROTECTED, TOO.

THAT SYSTEM SHOULD NOT... THE

PRESIDENT'S OBSESSION WITH

WEALTHY PEOPLE, FINE, BUT I

THINK HE'S LOOKING IN THE WRONG

PLACE, EVERYBODY SHOULD

CONTRIBUTE.

THEY SHOULD START WITH THE

BENEFITS.

WHY ARE WE SENDING WARREN

BUFFETT A PENSION CHECK.

>> Jon: GO BACK FOR A SECOND.

THE PRESIDENT'S OBSESSION WITH

WEALTHY PEOPLE.

DOES HE HAVE AN OBSESSION?

>> I'M GLAD TO SEE...

>> Jon: WITH RAISING THE TAX

RATE TO THE CLINTON ERA, IS THAT

AN OBSESSION IN DO YOU REALLY

CONSIDER THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS

BEEN BAD FOR RICH PEOPLE IN THIS

COUNTRY?

OR WALL STREET OR ANYTHING?

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEAN.

IT'S THE CONSTANT BASHING.

YOU CAN CONFISCATE ALL THE

WEALTH OF THOSE PEOPLE AND WE

WOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE.

>> Jon: LET ME GO TO THE

LANGUAGE.

"OBSESSION," "BASHING" AND

"CONFISCATE."

I UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE OF

UNITY, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT

THAT'S IT.

SO... AND I THINK THAT... I'M

GOING TO TELL YOU THIS, SO IN

THE LAST DECADE HERE, THE TOP 1%

HAVE TAKEN NEARLY 25% OF THE

INCOME.

25 YEARS AGO IT WAS 1%.

NOBODY HAS DONE BETTER IN THIS

COUNTRY THAN THOSE PEOPLE.

I'M INCLUDED IN IT.

AND TO ASK THEM TO DO THAT, I

DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS HARD

LINE,S THAT CLASS WARFARE, BUT

SOMEHOW MAKING THE MEDIAN IN

THIS COUNTRY, 50%, WHICH NOW

CONTROLS 2.5% OF THE WEALTH,

THAT THAT POLICY IS NOT CLASS

WARFARE, BUT TALKING ABOUT

RAISING THE RATES 4%,S THAT

CLASS WARFARE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

IT REALLY IS I THINK... AND AS

MUCH AS... CLEARLY YOU'RE

INCREDIBLY SMART, RESPECTED GUY,

BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST

USED AND SLIPPED INTO QUITE

EASILY...

>> WELL, IF I GOT A LITTLE

DEFENSIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING

ME TO DEFEND POSITIONS I HAVEN'T

TAKEN.

LOOK, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I THINK

THE HEART OF OUR CHALLENGE IS TO

RESTORE AND STRENGTHEN THE

UPWARD MOBILITY IN THIS COUNTRY

AND THE POSSIBILITIES FOR A

STABLE AND A HOPEFUL MIDDLE

CLASS.

AND IT'S A... THESE ARE

PRACTICAL QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU HAD A

MORE PRO-GROWTH TAX SYSTEM, THE

KIND I DESCRIBED EARLIER, THE

KIND THE PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION,

HEADED THAT SAME DIRECTION, A

LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, YOU'D HAVE A

SEPARATE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE

RATES.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT

RATES, I'M WITH YOU ON FAIRNESS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T

SHOOT OURSELVES IN BOTH FEET BY

RAISING THEM TO A POINT WHERE

THEY BEGIN TO HURT ECONOMIC

GROWTH.

GROWTH IS THE ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL

BOTH FOR PROSPERITY AND FOR

FAIRNESS.

[SEVEN MINUTES LATER]

>> Jon: HERE'S WHAT I WOULD

SAY.

NO, THEY'RE LOVELY PEOPLE.

I APOLOGIZE IF YOU FEEL LIKE I

WAS ASKING YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT

THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

THE PROBLEM IS IT'S VERY

DIFFICULT TO GET PAUL RYAN OR

THOSE TYPES OF FOLKS TO COME ON

AND REALLY ANSWER IN AN HONEST

WAY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ON

THESE TYPES OF SHOWS.

AND THE REASON I WAS EXCITED TO

HAVE YOU ON IS BECAUSE OF YOUR

REPUTATION AS A SMART FISCAL

CONSERVATIVE THAT WAS NOT... SO

I APOLOGIZE.

>> WELL, I HOPE YOU -- I DIDN'T

LET YOU DOWN.

>> Jon: YOU DIDN'T LET ME

DOWN.

AND HONESTLY, I'M JUST EXCITED

TO HAVE ANYBODY ELSE, WHEN I

MEET THEM, WE'RE THE SAME

HEIGHT.

THAT'S THE TRUTH.

"SAVING THE REPUBLIC."

IT'S ON THE BOOKSHELVES NOW.

[CHEERING AND APPL

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