Bob Costas

  • Aired:  12/01/11
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Bob Costas weighs in on Penn State's sexual assault scandal and discusses the handling of Syracuse University's child molestation case. (7:04)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, 22 TIME

EMMY AWARD-WINNING

SPORTSCASTER, WITH A NEW

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PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE

PROGRAM BOB COSTAS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JON.

>> Jon: WHAT YOU HAVE GOT

THERE.

>> I'M IN THE GREEN ROOM.

>> Jon: UH-HUH.

>> RIGHT, AND IN ADDITION TO

A BOUFL GOODIES.

>> Jon: UH-HUH.

>> SNICKERS AND WHAT NOT,

AND THE USUAL THINGS YOU

WOULD FIND IN A FRINGE THERE

IS AN ENTIRE DISPLAY CASE OF

RED BULL.

>> Jon: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT, THE ONLY SHOT

THAT GIVES YOU WINGS.

I'M THERE FOR 20 MINUTES.

THERE'S NINE LITTLE THINGS

OF RED BULL.

>> Jon: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> MY QUESTION IS JUST HOW

JACKED UP DO I HAVE TO BE TO

TALK TO YOU.

IF I WAS TO TAKE ALL OF THIS

ON MY WAY OUT, I WOULDN'T

NEED TO HOP A FLIGHT HOME TO

ST. LOUIS.

>> Jon: LET ME EXPLAIN

SOMETHING, YOU KNOW THIS IS

NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU.

WE GET PEOPLE IN HERE LIKE

JIMMY CARTER-- DESMOND TUTU,

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT

THEY'RE USED TO BEING

TREATED A CERTAIN WAY.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE GREEN ROOM

REQUESTS.

THIS AND A BOTTLE OF ATAROL

AND I WILL DO YOUR SHOW.

>> HI NO TOUCH DEMANDS.

>> Jon: YES, I'M BEING

SERIOUS.

HOW ARE YOU.

>> I'M GOOD.

I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT

THIS SAN DUST KEY INTERVIEW

YOU DID.

THAT WAS THE CRAZIEST THING

I SAW ON TELEVISION.

THE QUESTION WAS, AND HIS

LAWYER WAS SITTING RIGHT

NEXT TO YOU.

HOW DID HIS LAWYER ALLOW HIS

CLIENT TO BE ON THE PHONE

WITH YOU.

>> HE ACTUALLY OFFERED HIS

CLIENT.

I WAS SET TO INTERVIEW

JOSEPH AMONDOLA.

>> Jon: THE LAWYER.

>> AND LESS THAN HALF AN

HOUR BEFORE WE WERE TO SIT

DOWN HE SAID WHAT IF WE WERE

TO GUESS SANDUSKY ON THE

PHONE AND I'M THINKING

PERHAPS THAT ISN'T THE BEST

IDEA FROM YOUR STANDPOINT,

BUT YES, YES, WE'LL DO THAT.

>> Jon: DE EVER, LIKE AS HE

WAS LEAVING DE LEAN IN AND

GO OH, BY THE WAY, I'M A

TERRIBLE LAWYER.

(LAUGHTER)

DID HE SAY ANY OF THAT?

>> NO, NO, HE DIDN'T.

>> Jon: I THOUGHT THAT WAS

MAYBE THE MOST N THIS DAY

AND AGE OF WELL PRACTICED

PUBLIC RELATIONS AND

EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO MOUNT

THEIR DEFENSE AND DRESS UP

AND PRESENT-- THAT WAS THE

MOST REVEALING INTERVIEW IN

ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS I

THINK HI EVER SEEN.

>> AND IT WAS-- IT WAS SO

STRIPPED OF ALL THE ART FIS

OF TELEVISION, YOU KNOW IT

WAS JUST A DISEMBODIED VOICE

WHICH MADE IT ALL THE

STRANGER, AND NO B ROLL AS

THEY CALL T NO FOOTAGE

REALLY OF HIM, AN OCCASIONAL

STILL PICTURE BUT MOSTLY IT

WAS ME LOOKING INTO THE

CAMERA INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT

HIM AND HIM ANSWERING THESE

QUESTIONS IN HIS OWN WAY.

>> Jon: YEAH.

I MEAN I FELT ONE OF THE

MOST REVEALING QUESTIONS,

YOU SAID TO HIM, ARE YOU

SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO

UNDERAGED BOYS AND HE DOES

THAT THING THAT PEOPLE DO

WHEN THEY ARE GUILTY, HE

GOES.

>> AM I SEXUALLY ATTRACT,

LIKE HE REPEATS THE QUESTION,

LIKE DID YOU BREAK THAT.

>> DID I BREAK THAT VASE

WHAT?

>> Jon: HE REPEATS IT AND

THEN HE GIVES SOME WEIRD

LIKE WELL, I LIKE THEIR

ENERGY AND --

>> YEAH, HE SAID I ENJOY

BEING AROUND YOUNG PEOPLE,

ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND

THEN EVENTUALLY HE GOT TO

BUT AM I SEXUALLY ATTRACTED

TO THEM, NO.

>> Jon: RIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU

SAID --

>> IT TOOK 17 SECONDS BEFORE

THE WORD NO CAME OUT.

>> Jon: WHEN YOU SAID ARE

YOU A PEDOPHILE WHAT HE DID

SAY.

>> HE IMMEDIATELY SAID NO.

>> Jon: I WONDER IF IN HIS

DELUDED, POISONED HEAD HE'S

LIKE OH, NO, I'M NOT A

PEDOPHILE, LIKE DOES HE-- HE

THINKS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN BEING A PEDOPHILE

AND BEING ATTRACTED.

>> OR PERHAPS HE THINKS, AND

I'M RELUCTANT TO GET INTO

THIS AREA OF SPECULATION.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHY BY AM

DOING IT.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: ARE YOU A

RESPONSIBLE JOURNALIST.

SO IN THAT CASE.

>> CONTINUE, JON, BECAUSE

I'M FASCINATED.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT,

HE'S-- I'M TELLING YOU

THOUGH, AND NOW THIS OTHER

GUY, IN SIR KURX I KNOW THE

EASY THING TO DO IS THEY ARE

IDENTICAL SITUATIONSESES, I

KNOW THEY ARE NOT.

YOU ARE A SYRACUSE GUY, YOU

GOT THIS OTHER GUY.

I MEAN IS THIS, IT MAKES YOU

FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN

EPIDEMIC WITHIN THESE

INFRASTRUCTURES.

AND I HATE TO FEEL THAT WAY,

AND I HATE TO BE PARANOID

ABOUT IT BUT WHAT ARE WE

DEALING WITH?

>> SO FAR, AND I UNDERLINE

SO FAR THERE IS NO EVIDENCE

CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT

THERE WAS SOME SORT OF

INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP AT

SYRACUSE THE WAY THERE

OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN.

WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL

EXTENT AT PENN STATE BUT

OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN

INSTITUTIONAL COVER-UP AT

PENN STATE.

YOU WONDER WHY THE SYRACUSE

POST STANDARD DIDN'T PURSUE

IT MORE THAN THEY DID.

>> Jon: THEY HAD THIS TAPE

OF THE ACCUSER AND THE

ACCUSED WIFE IN 2002.

NOBODY DID ANYTHING WITH IT.

>> RIGHT.

THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T

CORROBORATE IT AT THAT

POINT.

AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER

ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT

GOES BUT IT RAISES A

QUESTION, DENNIS DUVAL WHO

PLAYED BASKETBALL IN

SYRACUSE WHEN I WAS A

STUDENT TLRBS, VERY GOOD,

PLAYED BRIEFLY IN THE NBA,

BAHEM WAS AN ASSISTANT

COACH.

FOR A LONG TIME DENNIS WAS

THE SHERIFF OF ONONDAGA

COUNTY AND WHEN THIS WAS

FIRST PRESENTED TO THE

AUTHORITIES THERE, I DON'T

KNOW WHAT IF NIP INFLUENCE

DENNIS HAD BUT IT IS A

QUESTION WORTH ASKING.

THEY DIDN'T PURSUE IT AT

LEAST THEY DIDN'T PURSUE IT

AGGRESSIVELY.

AND ESPN HAD THE TAPE FOR

QUITE SOME TIME AND THEY SAT

ON THE STORY UNTIL PERHAPS

COINCIDENTALLY JUST AFTER

THE PENN STATE THING BROKE.

>> Jon: THAT'S CRAZY.

AND YOU DO WONDER, YOU KNOW,

YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU FEEL WHEN

YOU FIRST MOVE TO NEW YORK,

LIKE I JUST IS A A

COCKROACH.

AND I KNOW THERE'S THOUSANDS

OF THOSE MOTHER [BLEEP] DOWN

THERE, AND THAT IS THE THING

THAT YOU WORRY ABOUT.

LIKE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE

THIS COMES TO LIRKTS YOU

WONDER, LIKE DO WE HAVE TO

NOW IN THE SAME WAY THAT

SOCIETY HAS CHANGED AND YOU

CAN'T LET YOUR KID PLAY

OUTSIDE ANY MORE, LIKE, YOU

KNOW, FORGET ABOUT LIKE OHIO

STATE PLAYERS GETTING A

TATTOO FOR A JERSEY, LIKE

THIS IS REAL.

>> YEAH.

IF ANYTHING GOOD IS GOING TO

COME OUT OF THESE TWO

SITUATIONS, WHICH ARE NOT

EXACTLY THE SAME, THEY ARE

GREATER DISSIMILARITIES AT

THE MOMENT THAN

SIMILARITIES.

BUT IF ANYTHING GOOD IS

GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS,

THERE IS GOING TO BE AN

AWARENESS OF IF YOU SEE

SOMETHING OR IF YOU HAVE

REASON TO SUSPECT SOMETHING

THAT INVOLVES CHILDREN BEING

TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, IT'S NOT

ENOUGH TO, CERTAINLY NOT TO

TURNT OTHER WAY AND

CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO SAY

WELL, I PASSED IT ON TO MY

IMMEDIATE SUPERIOR.

YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

AND INSTITUTIONS HAVE TO

HAVE PROCEDURES.

AND I THINK WILL YOU FIND

MORE AND MORE THEY WILL DO

BACKGROUND CHECKS THEY ARE

DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON

KOCHES, ASSISTANT COACH,

ANYONE WHO WORKS WITH THESE

KIDS.

>> Jon: GOOD.

NICE JOB.

BY THE WAY, 100 YARDS OF

GLORY.

GET THAT, BECAUSE IT'S

REALLY GOOD TOO.

>> YOU KNOWS WHAT'S REALLY

GOOD ABOUT THIS, PICTURES,

DVD, I DID ONE DAY OF WORK,

ALL RIGHT THIS GUY DID TWO

YEARS OF WORK, JOE GARNER.

JOE GARNER HAS NO CHANCE OF

BEING ON THIS SHOW.

>> Jon: NO.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF I AM

BEING-- WE'LL PROBABLY EDIT

HIS NAME OUT.

BUT THIS IS TO HIS ADVANTAGE

BECAUSE WILL GET LOTS OF

MONEY IF YOU BUY THIS BOOK.

>> Jon: GOOD.

100 YARDS OF GLORY.

IV

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