Bill Gates

  • Aired:  01/31/11
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Bill Gates wants to eradicate polio in India, Nigeria, Pakistan and Afghanistan in the next year. (7:12)

WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS FOUNDER

AND CHAIRMAN OF MICROSOFT AND

THE CO-CARE OF THE BILL AND

MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM

BILL GATES.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

HOW ARE YOU?

>> GREAT.

>> Jon: YOU WERE HERE A YEAR

AGO.

YOU RELEASED YOUR FOUNDATION'S

YEARLY LETTER.

THIS YEAR YOUR LETTER SAID

YOU'RE CURING POLIO.

>> WELL, WE'RE PART OF A GROUP

THAT IS....

>> Jon: DON'T BE SO MODEST.

CURING POLIO.

NICE JOB.

>> A LOT OF WORK STILL TO BE

DONE BUT THAT'S A GOOD GOAL.

>> Jon: WHERE IS POLIO STILL

ACTIVE?

BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THAT

HAD BEEN ERADICATED IN THE WAY

THAT SMALLPOX HAS BEEN

ERRATICED.

>> SMALLPOX IS STILL THE ONLY

ONE.

NIGERIA, PAKISTAN.

AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET RID OF

IT, IT SPREADS OUT.

THOSE ARE THE FOUR WHERE WE'VE

NEVER GOTTEN IT TO ZERO.

WE'RE OPTIMISTIC IN THE NEXT

OR SO WE'LL GET IT DONE.

>> Jon: IS THIS A PROBLEM OF

PEOPLE IN AFGHAN, PAKISTAN AND

NIGERIA AND INDIA DON'T WANT

THE VACCINE?

BECAUSE THEY ARE WHOLISTIC

PARENTS?

(LAUGHING)

OR IS IT THAT THESE ARE WAR

ZONES AND YOU CAN'T GET THE

DOCTORS IN?

WHAT IS KEEPING THIS FROM

BEING ERADICATED IN THOSE

AREAS?

>> AT ONE POINT IN NIGERIA

THERE WERE BAD RUMOR THAT THE

VACCINE WOULD STERILIZE WOMEN.

THAT'S BEEN LARGELY OVERCOME.

WE GOT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS

TO STEP UP, VACCINATE THEIR

CHILDREN.

SO NOW IT'S MOSTLY REACHING

THE CHILDREN.

GETTING OUT, YOU'VE TO GET

OVER 90% OF THEM TO TAKE THE

DROP THREE TIMES.

THAT'S HARD TO DO IN A

TUMULTUOUS PLACE.

>> Jon: THE EFFORT IN

AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN, I

IMAGINE, WILL BE A TOUGH ONE.

DO YOU MEET WITH HAMID KARZAI

OR DO YOU GO TO THEM AND SAY,

"WE'D LIKE TO GO TO THESE

TRIBAL AREAS AND GIVE THEM

DROPS."

>> I MET WITH PRESIDENT SADARI

ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO AND THE

GOVERNOR GOVERNOR OF THAT

PROVINCE WAS WITH US TODAY

TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE

GOING TO GET IN, GET THE

TRUCKS.

THERE'S A HISTORY OF DOING

TRUCES WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN

WITH VACCINES.

WE NEED TO TAKE A PAGE OUT OF

THE PAST AND GET... BECAUSE

PAKISTAN MIGHT BE THE TOUGHEST

OF ALL.

>> Jon: I'M GOING TO DRAW A

PICTURE OF BIN LADEN.

OKAY?

OKAY.

DO YOU SEE THAT?

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS TO

YOU.

IF ANY OF YOUR DROPS PEOPLE

SEES THIS GENTLEMAN, HE HAS MY

PERMISSION TO TAKE HIM OUT.

IS THE DIFFICULTY THERE THAT

THEY DON'T TRUST... ARE YOU

CONSIDERED A UNITED STATES

PERSON OR ARE YOU CONSIDERED

AN INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN

FOR THESE PURPOSES?

HOW DO THEY VIEW YOU?

>> WELL, THE KEY GROUP IS

EITHER PEOPLE IN THE PAKISTANI

GOVERNMENT OR UNICEF PEOPLE

OFTEN OUT THERE.

A FEW TIMES THE UNICEF PEOPLE

HAVE COME UNDER ATTACK WHICH

IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE BUT

MOST OF THE TIME THEY GET A

LETTER FROM BOTH SIDES SAYING

WE'RE JUST HERE TO SAVE

CHILDREN'S LIVES.

LET'S HAVE A DAY OF

TRANQUILITY AND LET'S LET THE

DROP BE DISTRIBUTED.

>> Jon: AND THESE ARE JUST THE

ONLY FOUR COUNTRIES WHERE YOU

BELIEVE THAT IT IS STILL

ACTIVE.

>> IT KEEPS SPREADING OUT.

THEN WE GET RID OF IT.

THESE ARE FOUR WHERE WE'VE

NEVER GOTTEN RID OF IT.

WE HAVE TEN OTHERS WHERE IT'S

BROKEN OUT AND WE'RE TAMPING

IT DOWN.

WE'RE ALWAYS SUCCEEDED AT

THAT.

THESE ARE THE FOUR THAT WILL

BREAK OR BREAK US IN YEARS

AHEAD.

>> Jon: WHERE ARE YOU NOW

FUNDINGWISE?

I KNOW YOU HAVE DEDICATED A

LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY TO IT.

I BELIEVE WARREN BUFFET HAD

DEDICATED A LARGE CHUNK OF

MONEY TO IT.

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT I THINK

MATCHES SOME OF THAT.

>> THE U.S. GOVERNMENT

ACTUALLY HAS BEEN VERY

GENEROUS.

THEY'VE BEEN THE MOST GENEROUS

GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE SPENT ABOUT THE SAME.

ROTARY INTERNATIONAL IS

INCREDIBLE.

RAISED ABOUT THE SAME.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED.

I HOPE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT,

EVEN WITH ALL THE CHALLENGES,

WANTS TO SEE THE POLIO

CAMPAIGN THROUGH.

>> Jon: HAS ANYONE CALLED YOU

AND SAID, OH, GEE, THIS BILL,

WE FORGOT TO TELL YOU, WE'RE

OUT OF MONEY.

>> IT'S IN THAT FOREIGN AID

BUDGET THIS POLIO MONEY, SOME

OF IT.

YOU KNOW, WE HOPE IT DOESN'T

GET... HOPE IT DOESN'T GET

CUT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT

HELP CHILDREN THAT THE U.K.

GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY KEPT THEIR

HUMANITARIAN STUFF EVEN AS

THEY WERE BALANCING THEIR

BUDGET.

I HOPE TO MAKE THE CASE WE

SHOULD DO THE SAME.

>> Jon: HERE'S WHAT I THINK.

THIS IS JUST FROM LOOKING AT

EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM I THINK

WE MIGHT DO BETTER TO LABEL

OUR POLIO VACCINES "MADE IN

THE USA" AND MAKE THE TEAR GAS

CANNISTERS REALLY HARD TO

READ.

MAYBE THAT... CAN YOU SELL IT

AS A WAY OF ALSO INFLUENCING

POLITICAL GOALS?

>> SURE.

YOU WANT TO HAVE AID THAT AT

THE END OF THE DAY PEOPLE FEEL

HELP THEM, HELP THEM WITH

THEIR CHILD AND WITH DISEASE.

THAT'S THE STUFF I THINK HAS

THE BEST CHANCE OF SHOWING

PEOPLE WE ARE VERY GENEROUS.

WE WANT TO HELP.

SOME AID CAN BAM FIRE.

>> Jon: THIS ONE IS

FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT'S SO

DIRECT AND RARE IN THE

BUSINESS YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW

BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS HAVE

COMPLEX CAUSES AND RESULTS.

YOU KNOW, EDUCATION AND

POVERTY.

THIS SEEMS SO DIRECT.

TAKE THREE DROPS.

IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS IN

THE WORLD.

THREE DROPS AND YOU'RE DONE.

EVEN THAT HAS CHALLENGES IN

GETTING DONE.

IS THAT FRUSTRATING?

>> A BIT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING

PROGRESS.

WEAVER GETTING NEW VACCINES

INVENTED AND GETTING THEM OUT

TO MORE KIDS.

THE MORE KIDS WHO TAKE THEM,

SAVES LIVES, LESS SICKNESS AND

THEY CHOOSE TO HAVE SMALLER

FAMILIES.

EVERYTHING ABOUT THE

ENVIRONMENT, JOBS, STABLE, IS

FAVORED IF YOU GET GOOD HELP.

>> Jon: WHAT IS NEXT AFTER

THAT?

WHAT'S THE NEXT GOAL?

>> WELL, THE HEALTH THINGS ARE

ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE DO.

THEN WE HAVE AN EFFORT IN U.S.

EDUCATION TO TRY AND HELP

TEACHERS LEARN WHAT WORKS,

WHAT DOESN'T, REINFORCE THINGS

THAT ARE WORKING.

THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.

BUT VERY IMPORTANT.

>> Jon: BUT YOU'RE IN THERE.

YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE IN THERE?

YOU'RE BATMAN.

>> NOT ROBIN?

>> Jon: NO, NO, NO.

YOU'RE BATMAN.

YOU WERE NOT BATMAN BEFORE BUT

NOW YOU'RE BATMAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STOPPING

BY.

YOU COME IN A YEAR.

EVERY YEAR WE'LL CHECK IN AND

SEE WHAT HAS BEEN ERADICATED

NEXT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: REMEMBER, WE H

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