Watchman - Surveillance State History

  • Aired:  01/20/14
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President Obama announces sweeping, loophole-filled changes to American intelligence oversight. (4:31)

SO THE DANGER OF TERROR IS REAL.

WE HAVE TO LET THE NSA DO ITSJOB.

>> IN THE 1960'S GOVERNMENTSPIED ON CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS

AND CRITICS OF VIETNAM WAR.

>> Jon: THE DANGER OFGOVERNMENT OVERREACH IS REAL.

WE HAVE TO STOP THE NSA FROMDOING THEIR JOB.

WE HAVE US AN OLD FASHIONEDALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR HERE.

HOW DO WE STOP THIS LOSELOSE?

>> I BELIEVE WE NEED A NEWAPPROACH, ONE IN WHICH THE

PROVIDERS RETAIN THE RECORDSWITH GOVERNMENT ACCESSING

INFORMATION AS NEEDED.

>> Jon: WHAT? NOT EVEN THE

GOVERNMENT TRUSTSTHE GOVERNMENT WITH OUR

PRIVATE INFORMATION. SO OURDATA WILL APPARENTLY BE

MOVED FROM A BUILDING LIKE THISTO A BUILDING LIKE THIS.

[ LAUGHTER ]PROBLEM SOLVED.

[ LAUGHTER ]MORE PROTECTION, PLEASE.

>> EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, WEWILL ONLY PURSUE PHONECALLS THAT

ARE TWO STEPS REMOVED FROM ANUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH A

TERRORIST ORGANIZATION INSTEADOF THE CURRENT THREE.

>> Jon: SO -- HMMMM, IF YOUKNOW A GUY WHO KNOWS A GUY WHO

KNOWS A TERRORIST, YOU ARE.

(bleep)ED.

BUT IF YOU KNOW A GUY WHO KNOWSA GUY WHO KNOWS A GUY WHO KNOWS

A TERRORIST, PASS THE NACHOS.

WHAT IF YOU CALL PAPA JOHN'S TOORDER A PIZZA BUT IT'S THE SAME

PAPA JOHN'S THAT A TERRORISTALSO CALLED TO ORDER PIZZA?

THEREFORE, YOU KNOW A GUY WHOKNOWS A TERRORIST WITHOUT

KNOWING IT?

OBVIOUSLY I'M ONLY USING PAPAJOHNS AS AN EXAMPLE.

I'M NOT SAYING TERRORISTS WOULDCALL PAPA JOHN'S.

THEY ARE TERRORISTS NOTMONSTERS.

[LAUGHTER]YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD UNDERMINE

THIS REFORM TALK?

IF THESE CHANGES CONTAINED ANYGLARING LOOPHOLES.

THE DATABASE CAN BE QUERYEDOVER AFTER A FINDING OR IN THE

CASE OF A TRUE EMERGENCY.

IT WILL TERMINATE WITHIN A FIXEDTIME UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT

DEMONSTRATES A REAL NEED FORFURTHER SECRECY.

>> Jon: BASICALLY THE RULE ISWE'LL TOTALLY FOLLOW THE RULES

UNTIL SUCH A TIME WHERE WEDETERMINE WE WILL NO LONGER

FOLLOW THE RULES BUT DON'T WORRYABOUT IT YOU WON'T HEAR IT

BECAUSE WE'LL DO IT SECRETLY.

I'M BEING PESSIMISTIC.

IS THIS PERFECT?

OF COURSE NOT.

BUT AT LEAST THE PRESIDENT WASTRYING TO EARN BACK THE TRUST OF

THEAMERICAN PEOPLE BY DEMONST

A SERIOUSNESS OF PURPOSE.

HOW DO WE MOVE THESE REFORMSFORWARD?

>> I'M OPEN TOWORKING WITH

CONGRESS TO ENSURE WE BUILD ABROAD CONSENSUS OF HOW TO MOVE

FORWARD.

>> Jon: SO WE'RE NEVER DOINGIT.

[ LAUGHTER ]YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS AFTER

WE GET A BROAD CONSENSUS INCONGRESS WITH YOU OF HOW TO MOVE

FORWARD?

WELL, THAT SOUNDS GREAT THENPERHAPS WE'LL GET WELL REASONED

POST GAME ANALYSIS FROM RICHARDSHERMAN.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

AND THEN MAYBE AFTER THAT --[ APPLAUSE ]

-- WE CAN ALL GO OUT FOR UNICORNBURGERS AND LEPRECHAUN JUICE.

THE IDEA IS THIS: THE REFORMSARE WEAK BUT DON'T WORRY THEY'LL

NEVER TAKE EFFECT.

IS THEREAN UPSIDE?

>> ONE THING I'M CERTAIN OF THISDEBATE WILL MAKE US STRONGER.

>> Jon: GOOD WHICH IS WHY THEPERSON WHO STARTED THE DEBATE

MUST BE HUNTED DOWN AND THROWNIN PRISON FOR LIFE.

THIS IS HOW CONVOLUTED OURPOSITION IS ON THIS ISSUE.

IN THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH HEPRAISED VITAL 1970'S REFORMS AND

SAFEGUARDS TO THE DOMESTICSPYING PROGRAMS.

HOW DID THEY COME ABOUT.

>> FIVE BURGLERS COMING OUT OFSHADOWS TO ADMIT THEIR PART IN

AN AUDACIOUS BREAK IN 40 YEARSAGO AT THE F.B.I.

THEY EXPOSED DOCUMENTS THATEXPOSED A SPYING OPERATION.

>> Jon: NOW THEY ARE PRAISEDIN THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH NOW WE

KNOW LONG IT TAKES BEFORESTEALING U.S. SECRETS IS

CONSIDERED PATRIOTIC.

FAST FORWARD TO 2054 AND IT'S IPRESIDENT GORNAX HEREBY GRANT I

EDWARD SNOWDEN A SPACE PARDON.

GOOD NIGHT, AND MORD BLARK BLESSAMERICA.

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