Ray Nagin

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Ray Nagin attributes the slow Hurricane Katrina response to politics and mistakes. (6:23)

>> MY GUEST TONIGHT, FORMER

MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS.

NEW PUBLISHED BOOK BY

AMAZON.COM IS CALLED

KATRINA'S SECRETS, STORM

AFTER THE STORM.

PLEASE WELCOME TO THE

PROGRAM RAY NAGIN, SIR.

(APPLAUSE)

>> VERY NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> HOW ARE YOU, SIR.

>> YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD, JON,

HOW BUT.

>> I'M DOING VERY WELL.

>> EXPLAIN THIS TO ME THIS

IS SELF-PUBLISHED.

>> YEAH, SELF-PUBLISHED

THROUGH CREATE SPACE.

HI SPOKEN WITH A COUPLE OF

AGENTS AND JUST DIDN'T GET

COMFORTABLE THAT MY VOICE

WOULD COME THROUGH.

BECAUSE ONCE YOU TURN OVER

YOUR MAN YOU SCRIPT TO A

PUBLISHER YOU NEVER KNOW

WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

>> Jon: THEY WILL JUST TWIST

IT AROUND.

>> THEY WANT IMMEDIATE TO

TONE IT DOWN, TONE IT UP.

>> Jon: THERE WERE THINGS IN

THERE THAT I WAS SOMEWHAT

SURPRISED AT WHEN I READ,

THE GOVERNOR OF YOUR STATE.

>> RIGHT.

>> Jon: KATHLEEN BLANCO AT

THE TIME DOES NOT COME OUT

WELL IN THIS BOOK REASONS

REALLY?

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: YOU HAVE SEEN THE

BOOK.

>> I'VE SEEN THE BOOK.

>> Jon: IT'S SELF-PUBLISHED.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: YOU WROTE IT.

>> YEAH, I WROTE IT, EVERY

WORD.

>> Jon: YOU THOUGHT SHE CAME

OUT OKAY?

>> THERE'S A SCENE IN THE

BOOK WHERE YOU DESCRIBE HER

AS BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED HER

OPPONENT BOBBY JINDAL IN THE

GOVERNOR'S RACE THAT SHE

SAYS IT TO YOU THIS IS LIKE

A WEEK BEFORE KATRINA, YOU

WILL PAY FOR THIS.

VENGENCE WILL BE MINE.

I MEAN --

>> IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE HER

RESPONSE TO NEW ORLEANS AND

KATRINA WAS A PERSONAL

VENDETTA AGAINST YOU.

>> SHE TOLD ME THERE WOULD

BE HELL TO PAY.

AND I THINK KATRINA

QUALIFIES.

>> Jon: SO YOU THINK SHE

CONJURED UP THE STORM?

>> NO, I'M NOT SAYING SHE

QON JUERED UP THE STORM.

BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME

RESIDUALS.

>> Jon: I MEAN IS SHE-- IS

SHE THAT PETTY AN INDIVIDUAL

THAT SHE WOULD SAY OH,

PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AT THE

SUPERDOME, RAY NAGIN DOESN'T

GET WATER FROM ME.

>> I DON'T THINK SO BUT I

THINK THERE WAS SOME

POLITICS PLAYED A ROLE IN

THIS, THE RESPONSE.

WE HAD A REPUBLICAN

PRESIDENT, A DEMOCRATIC-- GEM

CAT GOVERNMENT NEVER AND I

WAS A DEMOCRAT.

THE GOVERNOR AND I DIDN'T

GET DATA LONG VERY WELL

BEFORE THE STORM.

>> Jon: LOUISIANA IS A

RELATIVELY AND I SAY THIS

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,

DYSFUNCTIONAL.

IT IS A DYSFUNCTIONAL AND

SOMEWHAT, THE WORDS-- CORRUPT

HAVE OFTEN.

>> IT'S HAD A COLOURFUL

HISTORY.

>> Jon: WOULDN'T YOU SAY

THAT PARTISANSHIP PLAYED

LESS IN THIS THAN MAYBE THE

POLITICAL CULTURE IN

LOUISIANA.

>> THERE WERE A COUPLE OF

THINGS GOING ON.

PARTISAN POLITICS, YOU KNOW,

THE GOVERNOR AND I, AND THEN

THIS THING CALLED-- WHICH IS

A LAW THAT WAS IN EFFECT.

SO THE GOVERNOR AND

PRESIDENT WERE BASICALLY

DANCING AND DECIDES WHO

WOULD CONTROL THE RESOURCES,

WHO WOULD CONTROL THE

RECOVERY.

AND THAT SLOWED DOWN THE

RECOVERY MORE THAN ANYTHING.

>> Jon: THE POINT IS THAT 24

HOUR PERIOD WHEN THE

GOVERNOR AND THE PRESIDENT

MET AND HE WOULD NOT --

>> ON AIR FORCE ONE.

>> HE WOULD NOT SUPERSEDE

HER AUTHORITY AND SHE --

>> HE SAID HE WOULDN'T BUT

LATER SHE DID NOT GIVE HIM

THE AUTHORITY.

BUT HE TOOK IT ANYWAY A FEW

DAYS LATER.

SO HE HAD THE AUTHORITY ALL

ALONG.

>> Jon: AT A CERTAIN POINT

HE SAID ENOUGH.

>> BUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN

BLAME FEMA AND THE

PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE, FOR

HIM TO IN ESSENCE SAY TO A

GOVERNOR YOU SAY YOU GOT

THIS UNDER CONTROL.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME BENEFIT

OF THE DOUBT.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT HERE'S WHAT STRUCK ME

ABOUT THAT.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

RESOURCES.

AND THIS BLUE MY MIND.

WHEN YOU DID THE MANDATORY

EVACUATION AND THIS WAS ON

THE SATURDAY NIGHT, SUNDAY

MORNING, SATURDAY NIGHT YOU

GOT THE BAD WEATHER REPORT,

SUNDAY MORNING YOU SAID I'M

GOING TO MAKE THIS A

MANDATORY EVACUATION.

>> IN THE EVACUATION NOTICE

IT SAYS COME TO THE

SUPERDOME IF YOU CAN'T GET

OUT.

BRING SUPPLIES.

FOOD AND WATER.

>> FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS.

>> I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT IN

A DISASTER AND THAT MIGHT BE

MY IGNORANCE BUT ESPECIALLY

FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO POOR

TO GET OUT, THE IDEA THAT

THEY WOULD BE LIKE LET'S

PACK OUR COOL WE ARE TURKEY

AND SANDWICHES AND I HAVE

NEVER HEARD OF THAT.

WHY DIDN'T THE CITY OF NEW

ORLEANS HAVE THE SUPERDOME

STOCKED WITH WATER, RATHER

THAN RELYING ON PEOPLE TOO

POOR TO GET AWAY TO, LET'S

SAY, BRING THEIR OWN BOTTLED

WATER.

>> WELL, WE DID.

WE HAD SOME SUPPLIES IN THE

SUPERDOME BUT WE WANTED TO

MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,

WHOEVER SHOWED UP THAT THEY

WOULD AT LEAST HAVE

SOMETHING TO SUPPLEMENT

THAT.

BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T

KNOW.

WE PLANNED FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS

BUT IT ENDED UP BEING 6 TO 7

DAYS BEFORE HELP REALLY

CAME.

>> Jon: RIGHT SO IN

RETROSPECT WOULD YOU SAY

THOUGH THAT ALSO WAS, THAT

NEW ORLEANS ITSELF HAD NOT

SERIOUSLY ENOUGH CONSIDERED

THAT THE REAL RAMIFICATION

OF THIS TYPE OF TERRIBLE

STORM OR DOW REALLY FEEL

LIKE IT WAS --

>> I DON'T THINK ANYONE

ANTICIPATED THAT HURRICANE

KATRINA WOULD DO WHAT IT

DID.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FAILURE

OF THE LEVEES.

KEEP IN MIND, THE FIRST

REPORTS THAT CAME OUT.

>> Jon: THERE WERE PEOPLE

SAYING THE LEVIES COULD --

>> THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING IT

FOR 30, 40 YEARS.

BUT THEY NEVER DID.

SO THEY FINALLY-- .

>> Jon: BUT THAT'S LIKE

SAYING THEY SAY THESE

TORNADOES CAN TEAR UP ENTIRE

TOWNS BUT SINCE THEY DON'T,

WE DECIDED NOT TO BUILD

BASEMENTS AND THEN, YOU KNOW,

DON'T YOU THINK IN SOME

RESPECTS THERE IS A

RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE

LOCAL.

>> DON'T GET ME WRONG, LOOK

THERE WERE MISTAKES MADE ON

MY PART.

COY HAVE DONE A LOT OF

THINGS BETTER.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

ENTIRE SCENE THAT HAPPEN, WE

GOT OUT ABOUT 96% OF THE

WILL THE PEOPLE, GOT THEM

OUT OF HARM AWAY.

I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER CITY

HAS BEEN ABLE TO EVACUATE, I

THINK IN NEW YORK TRIED TOW

VAC YATE.

>> Jon: WE DID, ONCE.

>> WHAT HAPPENED.

>> Jon: WE STAND BY THE

WATER.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: AND THEN ONE GUY

GOES LET'S [BLEEP] SWIM.

(LAUGHTER)

>> WELL SO, WHAT DO YOU-- WHAT

ARE YOU DOING NOW?

WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS NOW.

>> I'M DOING DISASTER

CON-- CONSULTING AND PUBLIC

SPEAKING.

(LAUGHTER)

AND I'M WRITING THE BOOK.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: NEW ORLEANS, YOU'RE

ALL RIGHT.

YOU'RE ALL RIGHT.

I'M DOING DISASTER

CONSULTING, I SELL HAIR CARE

PRODUCTS.

KATRINA SECRETS IS

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