Dick Armey

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If they were stranded on a desert island together, Dick Armey would have a gun and Jon would bring a boat. (7:33)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: MY GUEST TONIGHT

FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN

FROM TEXAS.

HIS NEW BOOK IS CALLED "GIVE US

LIBERTY: A TEA PARTY

MANIFESTO."

PLEASE WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM

DICK ARMEY.

HELLO, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU, SIR?

>> HOWDY.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: THANK YOU FOR JOINING

US.

>> MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

>> Jon: I SHOULD HAVE FILLED

THIS WILL WITH DELICIOUS FRUIT

FOR US.

>> COULD YOU WATER YOUR HORSE

WITH IT.

I BROUGHT THAT FOR YOU.

>> Jon: THIS RIGHT HERE?

>> IT'S YOURS.

>> Jon: THANK YOU SO MUCH

BECAUSE I BROKE MY OLD ONE.

[LAUGHTER]

THIS IS INTERESTING.

>> YEAH, RIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU SMARTER.

>> Jon: DANNY FEINBERG BAR

MITZVAH.

THIS IS INTERESTING.

I'M EXCITED WHICH IS --

>> THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

LOOK AT THAT.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: I THINK THEY DON'T DO

WELL WITH PEOPLE WITH REALLY

LONG FACES.

>> YOU ARE REALLY DOING WELL.

>> Jon: IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO

DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO MY GIANT,

RIDICULOUS HEAD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

VERY KIND OF YOU.

>> SOME ARE SAYING YOU ARE ALL

HORSE AND NO CATTLE, AT LEAST I

KNOW YOU GOT THE HAT.

>> Jon: I'M GOING TO LIKE THAT

UP, SIR.

[LAUGHTER]

I'M SURE THAT'S NOT NICE BUT I'M

GOING TO LOOK IT UP.

>> TURN IT OVER.

>> Jon: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED

TO PUT IT ON THE THING?

>> LORD HAVE MERCY, NO.

>> Jon: I'M GOING TO TAUNT YOU

NOW.

YOU DO IT LIKE THIS?

WHY DO YOU --

>> THAT'S THE WAY YOU --

>> Jon: I LIVE IN NEW YORK

CITY.

SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY OH, A

HOMELESS PERSON.

MONEY OR GOD FORBID BODILY

FLUIDS INTO MY HAT.

>> THE MONEY IS ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: I'LL DO THAT IT'S A

REAGAN HAT.

I'M EXCITED.

>> THAT ACTUALLY HAT WAS MADE

FOR RONALD REAGAN.

>> Jon: ARE YOU SERIOUS?

>> READ IT.

IT SAYS --

>> Jon: MR. GORBACHEV --

[LAUGHTER]

>> YOU DID WELL.

>> Jon: THANK YOU.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OF:"

GIVE US LIBERTY."

IT'S A MANIFESTO CLOSE TO KARL

MRAX THERE.

>> I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THAT.

>> Jon: LOWER TAXES PLUS LESS

GOVERNMENT EQUALS MORE FREEDOM.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Jon: THAT IS THE THING

THERE.

IT WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT

FOR MAXIMUM FREEDOM, YOU WOULD

WANT NO TAXES AND NO GOVERNMENT.

HOW CLOSE AM I TO WHAT --

[LAUGHTER]

>> ACTUALLY YOU ARE REALLY

BORDERING ON WHAT IS CALLED THE

ARMEY CURVE.

THERE'S A QUESTION AND IT'S

ADDRESSED IN DEBATE ACROSS THE

WORD.

>> Jon: AND THAT THE LAFFER

CURVE?

>> THAT IS OLD FASHIONED.

THIS IS GOOD STUFF.

>> Jon: THE ARMEY CURVE.

IT'S A BETTER KNOW.

NO LAUGHING AT THE ARMEY CURVE.

>> Jon: NO.

>>

[LAUGHTER]

>> IF YOU HAVE AND ACEH THEN --

ANARCHY THEN YOU'VE GOT A MESS.

>> Jon: SURE.

>> IF YOU LISTEN TO THE SMALL

GOVERNMENT CONSTITUTIONAL SMALL

GOVERNMENT FOLKS THAT MAKE UP

THIS MOVEMENT, WHAT THEY ARE

SAYING IS WE ALL UNDERSTAND WE

DESPERATELY NEED A GOOD

GOVERNMENT THAT CLEARLY FOCUSES

ON THOSE THINGS GOVERNMENTS MUST

DO AND DO THOSE THINGS WELL AND

COST EFFECTIVELY.

BUT OUR PROBLEM WITH

GOVERNMENT'S DON'T ALWAYS DO THE

THICKS THEY SHOULD DO WELL, AND

THEY MESS IN OTHER THINGS.

ARMEY'S AXE YOM IS DIVISIONAL

LABOR WORKS BEST WHEN PEOPLE

MIND THEIR OWN DAMN BUSINESS.

THE PROBLEM WITH GOVERNMENT IS

THEY DON'T MIND THEIR OWN DAMN

BUSINESS.

WRITE THAT DOWN.

>> Jon: THOSE SEEM LIKE

COMPETING IDEAS.

>> NO, NO.

IT'S THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL THING

IN THE WORLD.

IF YOU AND I WERE LEFT ON A

DESERT ISLAND.

>> Jon: HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN?

WHY?

WAIT.

ALL RIGHT WE'RE LEFT ON A DESERT

ISLAND.

>> TAKE DELIVERY LESSONSONS FROM

TOM HANKS.

BAM.

THE TWO OF US AND A UPS PACKAGE.

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT.

>> ONE OF US IS GOING TO BE THE

GOVERNMENT.

>> Jon: HOW TALL ARE YOU?

>> I'M GOING HAVE A GUN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT.

>> I'M A SECOND AMENDMENT GUY,

YOU KNOW THAT.

>> Jon: HOW ABOUT THIS?

I'M GOING TO HAVE A BOAT.

[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> I WANTED YOU TO --

>> Jon: ALL RIGHT.

>> ANYWAY, THE QUESTION IS: THE

QUESTION IS BEING ADDRESSED

QUITE SERIOUSLY.

HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

WAS ADDRESSED IN THE CONTINENTAL

CONGRESS: WHAT IS THE

APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN THE

PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE

GOVERNMENT AND WHAT ARE THE

NECESSARY TASKS THAT WE ASSIGN

TO THE GOVERNMENT?

AND HOW DO WE RESTRAIN

GOVERNMENT FROM OVERSTEPPING IT?

THE GOVERNMENT HAS SOMETHING

THAT YOU AND I AS PRIVATE

CITIZENS DO NOT HAVE WHICH IS

THE POWER TO COMPEL PEOPLE TO DO

WHAT THEY WILL NOT OTHERWISE DO?

HOW DO YOU CONSTRAIN GOVERNMENT?

THE GREAT CONSTRAINT AGAINST

EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT IS OUR

CONSTITUTION.

I LIKE TO REMIND OFFICE

HOLDERS -- THERE'S NOT AN

OFFENSE HOLDER IN AMERICA TODAY

THAT DOESN'T TAKE A SINGULAR

OATH OF OFFENSE: PROTECT AND

DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.

WHY?

BECAUSE IT'S A MARVELOUS

BLUEPRINT.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> IT IS THE STRUCTURE OF

DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITIES,

AUTHORITIES, PREROGATIVES

BETWEEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

>> Jon: NOBODY IS ARGUING THAT

THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT GOOD.

>> OH...

>> Jon: THE IDEA IS AND THIS

IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE

ROAD.

YOU ARE DESCRIBING A REASONABLE

SET OF CHECKS AND BALANCES BUT

YOU'VE BRING A MANIFESTO THAT

SAYS JOIN THE REVOLUTION.

IT SPEAKS AS IF -- HAVE WE

MISAPPROPRIATED.

THE TEA PARTY WAS ABOUT TAXATION

WITHOUT REPUTATION.

THEY'VE GOTTEN THE TAXATION PART

BUT DO THEY UNDERSTAND WE HAVE

REPRESENTATION?

ARE WE LOSING YOUR VERY COGENT

AND I THOUGHT VERY BALANCED

ARGUMENT WITH THIS IDEA OF WE'RE

FIGHTING TYRANNY TO TAKE BACK

OUR GOVERNMENT.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THESE FOLKS

AND GO WALK AMONG THEM.

>> Jon: WHAT AMONG THEM?

ABSOLUTELY.

>> Jon: WHAT ARE YOU PHOESY

FOR GOD SAKES?

I HAVE WALKED AMONG THESE

PEOPLE.

I HAVE SEEN.

>> TRUST ME.

>> Jon: I GET.

>> THE THE FIRST SOURCE OF

HEARTBURN IS TARP.

>> Jon: WELL, NOW THAT'S NOT

THE GARDEN OF EDEN OTHER SIN.

TARP IS -- WE'RE A LONG WAY DOWN

THE ROAD.

>> WHAT CAUSED THESE FOLKS TO

SAY HEY, YOU KNOW LIKE POPEYE I

HAVE ALL I CAN STAND I CAN

STANDS NO MORE.

I'LL GET OUT IN THE VOTES AND

LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M NOT HAPPY

WITH GOVERNMENT.

>> Jon: A DEMOCRAT GOT

ELECTED.

>> NO ABSOLUTELY NOT.

>> Jon: HOWDY PARTNER IT WAS A

WEIRD EDIT LIKE THE WHOLE THING

STOPPED ABRUPTLY.

IT'S ALL ON THE WEB, PARTNER.

I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT IT UP AND

MAKE IT SOUND STUPID SO WATCH

THE REST

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