Jimmy Carter Pt. 2

  • Aired:  04/09/13
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Former President Jimmy Carter explains why the United States never signed a peace treaty with North Korea. (4:30)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

WE'RE HERE WITH FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.

IT MUST BE INTERESTING FOR YOU.

YOU WERE PRESIDENT 1976 TO 1980.

YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME YOU HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME WITH CRAZY NORTH KOREA LEADER THAT

YOU HAD TO TRY TOLL NEGOTIATE OUT DEVELOPING NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

>> YES.

>> Jon: THERE WAS AN INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN THAT YOU HAD TO TAKE A STAND ON.

DOES IT EVER STRIKE YOU AS -- SO HAVE WE MOVED NOWHERE?

ARE WE JUST GERBILS RUNNING ON A WHEEL?

[LAUGHTER]

THIS IS THE THIRD GENERATION OF KIMS THAT IS -- THEN THE FORTH THE KARDASHIAN.

[ LAUGHTER ]

THAT ARE USING SORT OF NUCLEAR THREAT TO GAIN SOME TYPE OF ATTENTION.

>> WELL, WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT, I WENT OVER TO NORTH KOREA BECAUSE WE WERE FACED WITH

A WAR BETWEEN NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH CREAL.

I NOILGTED WITH THE SEEN -- SOUTH KOREA.

I NEGOTIATED WITH THE SENIOR KIM WHO WAS WORSHIPED LIKE JESUS CHRIST AND GEORGE WASHINGTON COMBINED.

THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING HE SAID.

WE NEGOTIATED FOR A NUMBER OF HOURS.

HE AGREED WITH EVERYTHING I PROPOSED.

I BROUGHT THAT BACK WITH TO PRESIDENT CLINTON AND HE GOT IT IN WRIGHT.

WE GOT A FIRM COMMITMENT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND NORTH KOREA THAT THEY WOULDN'T BUILD

NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND WE WOULD SIGN A PEACE TREATY WITH THEM.

WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON WENT OUT OF OFFICE AND WE HAD A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT HE THREW THIS

AGREEMENT IN THE WASTE BASKET.

>> Jon: YOU DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS TALKING ABOUT COULD BE ANYBODY.

>> HE THREW THE AGREEMENT IN THE WASTE BASKET AND DECLARED THAT NORTH KOREA WAS AN AXIS OF EVIL.

THEY ARE PARANOID PEOPLE TO START WITH AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO FALL BACK EXCEPT

INTELLIGENCE AND THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS LIKE NOW.

NOW WE HAVE A DEADLOCK OVER THERE AND THIS NEW LEADER WHOM I HAVEN'T MET KIM JONG-UN.

>> Jon: THE GRANDSON.

>> HE IS 30, I THINK.

HE IS PARANOID AND HE HAS TO RELY ON VERBAL THREATS.

>> Jon: WE DON'T TALK TO THEM.

>> WE DON'T TALK TO THEM.

>> Jon: BILL CLINTON SENT YOU OVER.

THE ONLY GUY WHO HAS BEEN THERE IS DENNIS RODMAN.

WHO THE HELL KNOWS WHAT HE SAID.

HE MAY HAVE SAID I HATE THE KNICKS BUILD A BOMB.

WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I KNOW.

>> Jon: PEOPLE SAY IF THEY ARE PARANOID PEOPLE DOES TALK TO THEM WOULD THEY TRUST A TREATY

IF WE SIGNED WITH IT THEM?

HOW DO YOU MAKE --

>> ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT THEY TELL ME WHEN I GO.

I'VE BEEN THERE THREE TIMES.

IF THEY WANT A PEACE TREATY WITH THE UNITED STATES, WE'VE NOT HAD A PEACE TREATY YET.

WE HAD A CEASE FIRE AT THE END OF THE KOREAN WAR.

>> Jon: HE SUSPENDED THAT BY THE WAY.

NO LONGER WAS THE CEASE FIRE IN OPERATION.

>> HE SUSPENDED THE CEASE FIRE WITH SOUTH KOREAN -- SOUTH KOREA WHICH THEY NEVER HAVE HAD.

>> Jon: I HAVE TO GO BACK AND WASH MASH BECAUSE --

[LAUGHTER]

>> THEY HAD A PEACE TREATY BETWEEN THEM AND THE UNITED STATES.

>> Jon: DON'T YOU THINK EVEN CHINA WHO HAS BEEN IN MANY WAYS THE POWER BEHIND THE CRAZINESS.

THEY'VE BECOME SLIGHTLY FED UP WITH THIS REGIME AND ARE NO LONGER BACKING THEM TO THE SAME

EXTEND THAT THEY WERE AND DOESN'T THAT REMOVE REALLY ANY OF THEIR PROTECTION?

>> I THINK SO.

I GO TO CHINA EVERY YEAR TO TALK TO THEM.

I SAY VERY DISCOURAGED OR MAYBE ANGRY WITH THE NORTH KOREANS BUT THEY KNOW THAT NORTH KOREA'S

STABILITY AS IT EXISTS RELIES ON THEIR TRADE AND COMMERCE.

WE'VE HAD AN ECONOMIC EMBARGO AGAINST NORTH KOREA FOR 60 YEARS.

THEY DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DESTROY THEIR ECONOMY.

THEY KNOW THAT.

>> Jon: WE DID SEND THEM RUM.

>> WE DID.

I'M NOT SURE THE GOVERNMENT DID THAT BUT ANYWAY.

>> Jon: I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE STILL DOING THAT TYPE OF DIPLOMATIC -- DO YOU GET

MILES -- WHEN YOU GO DO YOU GET TO UPGRADE?

>> WHEN I RIDE ON DEALT YEAH GET FREQUENT FLIER MILES.

[LAUGHTER]

>> Jon: I LOVE IT.

PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[CHEERS A

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