Exclusive - Rachel Maddow Extended Interview Pt. 1

  • Aired:  02/28/13
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In this exclusive, unedited interview, Rachel Maddow shares her in-person observations of the Supreme Court, and champions civil rights legislation. (6:04)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK MY GUEST TONIGHT SHE'S THE HOST OF MSNBC'S THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW.

HER BOOK "DRIFT" IS COMING OUT NEXT WEEK IN PAPERBACK.

YOU SHOULD GET IT.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM RACHEL MADDOW.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> THE RACHEL MADO SONG.

>> Jon: IT'S THE RACHEL MADDOW SONG.

♪ RACHEL MADDOW IS HERE.

♪♪

>> EXCELLENT.

>> Jon: WE'LL GET TO THE SEQUESTER.

>> CAN'T WAIT.

>> Jon: YOU WERE AT THE SUPREME COURT.

>> YES.

>> Jon: YESTERDAY?

>> YESTERDAY.

>> Jon: THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

YOU GOT IN.

DETAILS.

>> SO WE DON'T -- I DON'T -- I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER LINE THAT IS LONG ENOUGH THAT

GOES HIGH ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND HOW ON THE SAME DAY WE'RE UNVEILING THE STATUE OF ROSA

PARKS AT THE U.S. CAPITOL AND ONE BLOCK AWAY WE'RE CONSIDERING GETTING RID OF THE PILLAR OF

AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS LAW AND THAT HAPPENS AT THE SAME TIME AT THE SAME PLACE AND NOBODY'S HEAD EXPLODES.

I THINK THE VOTING RIGHTS ACTED IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S NOT SO OLD THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOESN'T APLY.

WHEN I WANTED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT IT I TALKED TO JOHN LEWIS WHO WAS NEARLY KILLED

ON A BRIDGE IN SELMA LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE PRESIDENT JOHNSON FORMED A SESSION OF CONGRESS TO

TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO THE MAN IN SELMA.

JOHN LEWIS IS STILL IN CONGRESS.

THERE'S NO CAMERA.

WE NEVER GET FOOTAGE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THERE.

IT'S WEIRD TO SEE ANTONIN SCALIA IN PERSON.

WEIRD.

>> Jon: DOES HE.

I ONLY READ SOME OF THE TRANSCRIPTS OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

HE WAS SAYING WE'VE GOT TO GET RID OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF LAST INVEST YIJS OF RACIAL PREFERENCE.

>> HE SAID WHEN CONGRESS REUPPED THEY LOOKED INTO WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS STILL NECESSARY.

TEN MONTHS OF DEBATE, 21 HEARINGS, 15,000 PAGES OF EVIDENCE AND IN THE SENATE THEY

VOTED 98-0, YEAH WE STILL NEED BUT HE SAID, YEAH WHAT DOES THAT VOTE MEAN.

>> Jon: DIDN'T HE SAY WE TOLD THEM TO FIX THIS IN 2006 BUT CLEARLY THEY CAN'T OR WON'T SO

WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THEM.

>> VOTING IS A RACIAL ENTITLEMENT NOW.

SOMETHING YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ON THE BASIS OF YOUR RACE.

WAIT A SECOND.

DO YOU KNOW HOW IT SOUNDS.

I THINK HE DOES KNOW.

THAT'S THE NEAT THING ABOUT BEING THERE IN PERSON YOU CAN SEE OH, ACTUALLY HE'S A TROLL.

ESSAYING THIS FOR EFFECT -- HE HE IS SAYING THIS FOR EFFECT.

HE KNOWS HE'S GOING TO GET A GASP.

HE LOVES IT.

HE'S LIKE THE GUY IN THE BLOG COMMENTS USING THE N WORD.

AHH!

DID THAT MAKE YOU MAD.

HOW ABOUT IF I SAY THIS?

>> Jon: WAS HE LIKE BY THE WAY I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU BA-BAM!

THAT'S GUY?

>> HE'S THAT KIND OF GUY.

WHAT WE'RE SHOCKED THAT HE SAID SOMETHING SO BLATANTLY RACIALLY OFFENSIVE HE'S THINKING OH,

YEAH, I DID.

>> Jon: BA-BOOM.

>> THAT'S NEAT TO SEESM IT'S ALSO NEAT TO SEE SONIA SOTOMAYOR LEANING AROUND THE BENCH AND

GIVE HIM WHAT FOR.

ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE TECHNICALLY TO THE LAWYERS AND SHE'S TALKING TO ANTONIN SCALIA

AND IT'S LIKE A BRAWL BETWEEN THEM.

>> Jon: ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, DO THEY KNOW HIM AND SAY -- BUT THE

NEW KID IS SHAKEN OR ANGERED BY THAT.

READY FOR IT AND HAS A REJOINEDDER THAT MAKE HIM FEEL EMBARRASSED IF HE WASN'T A TROLL

THAT LOVES TO MAKE PEOPLE MAD.

>> Jon: WHAT IS SURPRISING IS THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO REVISIT THIS SORT OF THING.

WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE STILL LAWS IN VIRGINIA THAT SAID THINGS LIKE IF YOU ARE NOT

MARRIED YOU CANNOT COHABITAT, THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE SUNSET CLAUSES BUT YOU HAVE THIS

VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT EVERY 18 MONTHS.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE AFTER A WHILE THEY'LL GET OVER IT, SNRIET.

[LAUGHTER]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF THE CYCLICAL NATURE OF SOME OF THESE FOUNDATIONS OF CIVIL RIGHTS.

IS THERE A RATIONALE BEHIND THAT?

>> THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IT'S NOT A NEW PROBLEM IN THE WORLD WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP IT WAS

SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

PEOPLE THAT HAD NEVER DONE IT THEY WERE LIKE WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS UP BEFORE?

WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AND IT WILL GO AWAY.

AS DEMOCRACY EXPANDS AND MORE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONTEXT GET

THEIR POINT ACROSS, WE CAN ADDRESS NEW PROBLEMS WE DIDN'T USED TO ADDRESS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NEW, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE FINALLY ADDRESSING THEM.

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN 1965 WITH VOTING RIGHTS AND IN THE 1990'S WITH THE VIOLENCE AGAINST

WOMEN ACT.

AS NEW PEOPLE MAKE THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WORK FOR THEM THEIR PROBLEMS GET ADDRESSED TOO.

>> Jon: WHAT ESSAYING IS THIS WORKED.

LET'S GET RID OF IT NOW.

IT WORKED SO WELL, THE PROBLEM IS GONE.

RIGHT, BUT WHAT SOLVED IT?

BIZARRE.

WE'RE GOING -- WE RAN OUT.

WITH YOU STICK AROUND AND TALK SEQUESTER.

WE'LL THROW IT UP ON THE WEB.

>> EXCLAMATION POINT.

>> Jon: RACHEL MADDOW'S SHOW

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