Josh Fox

  • Aired:  06/26/13
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Gasland Part II" director Josh Fox talks fracking, flammable water and the perils of natural gas. (6:23)

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

>> John: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS DOCUMENTARY

FILM MAKER.

HIS NEW DOCUMENTARY IS HBO'S

GASLANDS PART 2.

>> THIS IS THE WELL.

HERE YOU GO.

SO THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT THIS

TIME.

>> I'LL WALK AWAY FROM IT.

WHAT DO YOU?

WHAT DO YOU?

>> AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

ELL, WELL, WELL, WHO IS

GOING TO BUY IT?

YOU KNOW WHAT?

WELL, WHAT I'LL PROBABLY DO IS

SELL THIS AND HAVE THE GAS

COMPANY SUE ME FOR SELLING THEIR

GAS.

>> John: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO

THE SHOW JOSH FOX.

IT'S SEQUEL TIME.

IN GASLAND ONE WE LEARN ABOUT

THE DANGERS OF FRACKING AND YOU

INTRODUCE US TO THE CONCEPT OF

FLAMMABLE WATER.

IN GASLAND 2, IT TURNS OUT

EVERYTHING IS FINE NOW.

RIGHT?

>> NO, IT DOESN'T GET BETTER.

THIS FILM, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO

FIND OUT IF WHAT WE'RE SEEING

ALL ACROSS AMERICA ARE PEOPLE

BEING ABLE TO LIGHT THEIR WATER

ON FIRE IN THE FACE OF THE

HUGEST DOMESTIC GASP DRILLING

CAMPAIGN IN HISTORY.

WHY HASN'T THE GOVERNMENT DONE

ANYTHING ABOUT IT?

WHY HAVE OUR REGULATORY AGENCIES

FAILED TO PROTECT AMERICANS?

SO THIS FILM WAS AN

INVESTIGATION INTO THE

GOVERNMENT.

WHAT YOU SAW THERE WAS A FAMILY

IN TEXAS, ONE OF MANY MANY

FAMILIAR FILM THAT CAN LIGHT

THEIR WATER ON FIRE.

THERE WATER WELL HAS SO MUCH GAS

VENTING OFF THE HEAD SPACE OF

THAT WATER WELL THAT THAT

HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>> John: I MEAN THAT IS THE

GIMMICK.

THAT IS KIND OF THE MOST

PLEASANT PART OF CONSEQUENCES.

AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS

A TOY REALLY MORE SIGNIFICANT

THING IS, OH, I DON'T KNOW

POISONED WATER.

>> RIGHT.

NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY HAS COME IN

AND LITERALLY TAKEN AWAY THE

REGULATORY AGENCIES FROM THE

PEOPLE, HAS ADVISED EVEN THE

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

TO GO ON THE SIDE OF MORE AND

MORE FRACKING.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE

TO TWO MILLION NEW GAS WELLS IN

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THAT'S THE PLAN.

HOW IS IT THAT IF SO MANY PEOPLE

ARE COMING FORWARD, WE HAVE A

THOUSAND FAMILIES IN

PENNSYLVANIA ALONE PETITIONING

THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL

PROTECTION ABOUT WATER

CONTAMINATION AFTER THEY'VE

DRILLED 6,000 WELLS IN THE MAR

CELL US SHELL IN PENNSYLVANIA.

HOW IS THIS A STAPLE OF OUR

CLIMATE POLICY?

THIS IS THE QUESTION OF THIS

FILM.

ANSWER IS THERE.

WE SEE THAT THE GAS... IT HAS

WAYS OF INFLUENCING EVERY LEVEL

OF GOVERNMENT.

>> John: NOW THE COUNTERPOINT

COMES IN YOUR MOVIE FROM THE GAS

COMPANY'S MASCOT THE FRIENDLY

FRACK-A-SAURUS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE ASKING

ME TO BELIEVE BUT HE IS, NO

OFFENSE, A LOT CUTER THAN YOU.

>> HE'S ALSO DRILLING INTO HIS

OWN ANCESTORS' REMAINS.

>> John: THAT'S NOT THE FRIENDLY

PART.

YOU SEE,.

>> WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE

NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY DO IS WE'RE

FRIENDLY.

WE BURN CLEANER THAN COAL.

IT TURNS OUT THIS IS NOT TRUE AT

ALL.

ACTUALLY THAT PART IS TRUE.

IT'S LIKE THE WITCHES IN

MACBETH.

YOU'RE GOING TO THE KING.

THEY LEAVE OUT THE PART ABOUT

HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KILL

ALL YOUR FRIENDS.

YOUR WIFE WILL COMMIT SUICIDE

AND YOU'LL BE DEAD IN THREE

DAYS.

THEY LEAVE THAT PART OUT.

WITH THIS THEY SAY WE BURN

CLEANER COAL.

THAT'S TRUE.

50% CLEANER BUT METHANE IS 105

TIMES, NATURAL GAS, 105 TIMES

MORE POTENT IN THE ATMOSPHERE

THAN CARBON DIOXIDE.

THEY'RE LEAKING HUGE CLOUDS OF

METHANE OFF THESE WELL SITES,

LEAKING INTO THE DISTRIBUTION

SYSTEM.

ANY MORE THAN ONE PERCENT

LEAKAGE MEANS THAT NATURAL GAS

DEVELOPMENT IS WORSE THAN COAL

FOR CLIMATE.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE YESTERDAY

IS THAT THE PRESIDENT, WE KNOW

HE'S MET WITH THE NATURAL GAS

INDUSTRY MANY MANY TIMES.

WE'RE ASKING WILL HE PLEASE MEET

WITH THE FAMILIES IN THIS FILM.

WILL HE PLEASE MEET WITH THE

SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE

COMING FORWARD SAYING LOOK THE

ENGINEERING OF THESE WELLS IS

FATALLY FLAWED.

WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO

CONTAMINATE AQUA FERS.

NO WAY TO FIX THEM.

METHANE LEAKING IS UNFIXABLE AT

THE LEVEL WE'RE SEEING IT.

THAT MEANS THAT IT'S WORSE THAN

COAL.

WE WOULD LIKE THE PRESIDENT TO

MEET WITH THESE SCIENTISTS AND

MEET WITH THESE FAMILIES IN THE

FILM.

>> John: DO THOSE FAMILIES HAVE

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN

MONEY?

>> NO.

John: THAT MIGHT BE YOUR

PROBLEM THEN.

>> YEAH, YEAH, THEY DON'T.

THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY A PIECE OF

THE ISSUE THOUGH.

INFLUENCE DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN

THROUGH THE MONEY BUT THE MONEY

IS IS THERE.

$747 MILLION SPENT IN CONGRESS

TO GET AN EXEMPTION TO THE SAFE

DRINKING WATER ACT.

THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A

BILLION DOLLARS.

VERY, VERY HARD TO COMPETE ON

THAT LEVEL.

BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE

BOARD IN NEW YORK STATE THE

PEOPLE OF THIS STATE CAMPAIGNED,

THEY HAD 204,000 PUBLIC COMMENTS

TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT

STUDY IN NEW YORK STATE.

MORE PEOPLE THAN VOTED FOR

ANDREW CUOMO IN HIS HOME AREA OF

QUEENS.

THERE IS NO GAS DRILLING IN NEW

YORK STATE.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

RIGHT NOW... THANK YOU.

WE ALSO KNOW THIS PENNSYLVANIA

TWO-THIRDS OF PEOPLE IN

PENNSYLVANIA SUPPORT A

MORATORIUM ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA.

IT IS NOW THE OFFICIAL POSITION

OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN

PENNSYLVANIA TO SUPPORT A

MORATORIUM.

>> John: DO YOU HAVE TIME TO GO

TO THE WEB.

THIS IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION THAN

WE CAN HAVE IN 4.5 MINUTES.

>> THE FILM IS ON HBO JULY 8.

John: GASLAND PART 2.

JOSH FOX, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

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