Rand Paul

  • Aired:  10/03/12
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Senator Rand Paul describes government overregulation as the unintended consequences of well-meaning people. (4:41)

TONIGHT, PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM SENATOR RAND PAUL.

SIR.

[APPLAUSE]

NICE TO SEE YOU.

I'M JUST GLAD YOU WEREN'T BROUGHT OUT HERE BY SHIRTLESS MEN.

>> WE SAW THAT.

WE CAN'T KNOW THAT WAS AVAILABLE.

>> Jon: WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT METHODS OF BRINGING PEOPLE OUT.

>> IF I HAD COME OUT THAT WAY, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE COME BACK IN A TV COMMERCIAL.

>> Jon: IT MAY.

THAT'S THE WAY POLITICS WORK.

OBVIOUSLY THE BIG DEBATE WAS TONIGHT.

WE TAPED EARLIER.

I IMAGINE YOU'RE RUSHING OUT OF HERE TO SEE THE DEBATE.

>> I CAN LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND I CAN TELL YOU WHO WON THE DEBATE.

AND I'M VERY OBJECTIVE.

>> Jon: REALLY?

TELL ME WHO?

>> ROMNEY WON.

IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING JUGGERNAUT.

>> Jon: DID HE UNHINGE HIS JAW AND SWALLOW ROMNEY WHOLE?

>> SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE FUZZY.

>> Jon: FAIR ENOUGH.

THE BOOK IS CALLED "GOVERNMENT BULLIES" YOU HAVE A FORWARD BY A CONGRESSMAN NAMED RON PAUL.

HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT?

>> IT WAS TOUGH TO GET.

YOU KNOW, BENDING ARMS AT THANKSGIVING, WORKING ON HIM AND WE FINALLY GOT HIM.

>> Jon: FOR YOU, WHAT IS THE MESSAGE HERE?

THE MESSAGE IS GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN PUSHING PEOPLE AROUND, THAT NEEDS TO STOP?

>> KIND OF.

THE MESSAGE IS THAT THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF WELL-MEANING PEOPLE.

THE CLEAN WATERAGE OF 1974 SAYS YOU CAN'T DISCHARGE POLLUTANTS INTO THE NAVIGABLE WATERS OF THE U.S.

I'M ALL FOR THAT.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO DUMP CHEMICALS IN THE HO RIVER.

THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST THAT.

IT SHOULD STOP.

HOWEVER, OVER TIME, WE CAME TO DEFINE DIRT AS A POLLUTANT AND WE CAME TO DEFINE NAVIGABLE WATERS AS YOUR BACK YARD.

WE TELL THE STORY OF ROBBIE WRIGLEY, WHO WAS GIVEN 84 MONTHS IN PRISON, HAD IN PRIOR CRIMINAL HISTORY, 84 MONTHS, NO PAROLE,

HER DAD GOT TEN YEARS AND HER DAD'S PARTNER GOT TEN YEARS.

THEIR CRIME IS PUTTING CLEAN DIRT ON DRY LAND IN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT'S A WETLAND,

AND THAT'S INSANE.

>> THAT WAS THE CASE.

THAT WASN'T AN E.P.A.

WASN'T THAT A JURY?

>> IT'S E.P.A. RULES.

IT'S E.P.A. RULES AND COURTS THAT COME UP WITH IT.

YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WENT THROUGH A JURY.

SOMETIMES JURORS HAVE MADE MISTAKES.

WE HAVE HAD JURIES PUT PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW AND IT WAS A MISTAKE.

>> Jon: I'M NOT SO FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE, BUT WASN'T THE COMPLAINT HE WAS FLOODING OTHER PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS AND WOULDN'T

LIKE... THERE WAS A... HE WOULDN'T STOP AND HE ACTUALLY WAS CAUSING DAMAGE?

>> IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING.

HE'S CONVICTED UNDER SOMETHING CALLED THE RICO STATUTE, ANTI-RACKETEERING THINGS.

>> Jon: HE WAS RUNNING A DIRT SYNDICATE.

>> EXACTLY.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE RICO STATUTE SAYS YOU OWN A PIZZA HUT AND A 15-YEAR-OLD KID IS SELLING MARIJUANA OUT OF IT, THEY TAKE

YOUR HOUSE.

AN URBAN KID IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER, THEY TAKE HIS GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE.

>> Jon: THESE TYPES OF STORIES, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF GOVERNMENT

REGULATION, BUT COULDN'T YOU JUST AS EASILY PUT TOGETHER A BOOK CALLED "GOVERNMENT HEROES," AND...

>> PEOPLE WOULD BUY THAT?

>> Jon: IT'S NOT AS GOOD A STORY, BUT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN IMPROVED OR AN ANECDOTE ABOUT

THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE CAUSED BY PRIVATE BUSINESS.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WRITING A BOOK OF FICTION.

>> Jon: DON'T YOU IMAGINE...

>> THE THING IS RULES HAVE GONE TOO FAR.

THE ECONOMY IS SUFFERING UNDER REGULATIONS, A TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REGULATIONS IS HAMPERING ECONOMIC GROWTH.

WE'RE GROWING AT 1%.

ECONOMISTS SAY THAT A MILLION PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS IN OUR COUNTRY.

WE'VE GONE TOO FAR.

>> Jon: WE'VE GONE TOO FAR SOUNDS LIKE AN ARGUMENT.

I WOULD AGREE THAT REGULATIONS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT IN A MORE COMMON SENSE WAY, BUT THE ARGUMENT IS ALWAYS FRAMED AS

FREEDOM VERSUS TYRANNY WHICH IS WE NEED TO MANAGE THIS BETTER.

>> HOW ABOUT RAW MILK?

SHOULD WE PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR SELLING RAW MILK?

>> Jon: YOU'RE TALKING TO A JEWISH GUY WHO IS ALLERGIC TO...

I CAN'T EVEN HANDLE HOMOGENIZED MILK.

>> YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DEBATING O'REILLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR GLASS.

>> Jon: STICK AROUND.

"GOVERNMENT BULLIES"

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