Andrew Harper

  • Aired:  09/03/13
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Andrew Harper thanks Syria's neighbors for taking in millions of displaced citizens and describes the transformation of the Jordanian desert. (6:07)

>> Stewart: HEY, WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, HE IS THE HEAD

OF THE U.N. REFUGEE AGENCY IN

JORDAN BASED AT THE CAMP ON THE

SYRIAN BORDER.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW ANDREW

HARPER! HOW ARE YOU, SIR?

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING

IN TO JOIN US.

YOU DO GRIM YET INCREDIBLY

IMPORTANT WORK.

TELL ME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ARGUE

ALL DAY ABOUT THE POLITICS OF

ASSAD AND THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS

AND SHOULD WE INTERVENE, SHOULD

WE NOT, THERE IS NO ARGUMENT

ABOUT THE HUMANITARIAN DISASTER

THAT HAS UNFOLDED IN THIS REGION

AND CAN YOU GIVE US A BRIEF

UPDATE ON THAT?

>> WELL, THANKS, JON, ALSO THANK

YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE

OPPORTUNITY TO TALK BECAUSE

THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH

DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLITICS

AND SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE

SECURITY, BUT WHAT IS

CONTINUALLY FORGOTTEN IN ALL OF

THE CONFLICTS IS WHAT IS

HAPPENING TO THE SYRIANS.

AND TODAY WE HAVE MARKED

2 MILLION REFUGEES HAVING FLED

ACROSS THE BORDER INTO JORDAN,

INTO TURKEY, INTO IRAQ, INTO

LEBANON.

AND THIS IS THE TRAGEDY.

ON TOP OF THAT YOU HAVE

5 MILLION, AND THESE ARE NUMBERS

WHICH NO ONE CAN REALLY

COMPREHEND BECAUSE EACH ONE OF

THESE REFUGEES, EACH ONE OF

THESE PERSONS BASICALLY FLED

THEIR HOMES AND NO ONE WANTS TO

FLEE THEIR HOMES BUT THEY HAVE

FLED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN

BOMBED, THEY DON'T HAVE ACT

STOAS SERVICES, AND THEY HAVE

LEFT WITH ALMOST NOTHING, BUT

OFTEN THE CLOTHES THAT ARE ON

THEIR BACK, CHILDREN OFTEN HAVE

HAD TO FLEE THEIR HOMES WHICH

ARE BEING BOMBED.

>> Stewart: AND THE AMOUNT OF

CHILDREN AND THE AMOUNT OF WOMEN

IS ASTONISHING.

>> LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO WE

HIT 1 MILLION CHILDREN HAVING

FLED ACROSS THE BORDER AND THESE

NUMBERS, ARE JUST NUMBERS WHEN

THEY ARE REPORTED IN THE PRESS,

BUT WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY

WORKING WITH REFUGEES OR WORKING

WITH THE DISPLACED THEN EACH ONE

OF THESE INDIVIDUALS NEEDS HELP.

EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS

NEEDS PROTECTION AND THE FIRST

THING WE HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU,

AS YOU DID IN THE INTRODUCTION,

SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNTRIES

OF THE MIDDLE EAST THAT HAVE,

THAT ARE OFTEN STRUGGLING TO

PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THEIR OWN

POPULATION AND COMMUNITIES BUT

HAVE A WONDERFUL TRADITION AND

CULTURE OF PROVIDING SUPPORT TO

THOSE IN THE CONFLICT.

JORDAN, FOR INSTANCE, POPULATION

OF 6 MILLION.

>> Stewart: INCREDIBLE.

>> HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

IRAQIS AND 500,000, 600,000

SYRIANS AND THEY ARE THE PEOPLE

THAT OPENED THEIR DOORS, JORDAN

HAS NO OIL.

>> Stewart: OR WATER.

>> OR WATER, RIGHT.

AND BASICALLY HAD TO ABSORB WHAT

IS BASICALLY AN INTERNATIONAL

DISASTER.

>> Stewart: RIGHT.

>> IT IS NOT JUST A SYRIAN

DISASTER, IT IS NOT A REGIONAL

DISASTER, THIS IS AN

INTERNATIONAL DISASTER, AND IT

IS.

>> Stewart:.

>> AND THE PART OF THE U.N. YOU

SORT OF UNDERSTAND IS THE MORE

THEATRICAL, YOU KNOW, HUGO

CHAVEZ AT THE U.N. GIVING A

SPEECH ABOUT SULFUR OR WHATEVER

THAT IS OR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING

LIBYA ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS

COMMISSION OR THOSE TYPE OF

THINGS. THERE IS THIS WHOLE

OTHER AVENUE OF THE U.N., BOOTS

ON THE GROUND PEOPLE LIKE

YOURSELF DOING THIS INCREDIBLE

DAY TO DAY WORK EFFECTIVELY,

EFFICIENTLY, IN A MANNER THAT IS

ASTONISHING TO SEE.

I MEAN I WANT TO SHOW, HERE IS A

PICTURE OF THE CAMP A YEAR AGO.

OKAY? THIS IS DESERT IN

NORTHERN JORDAN.

A DESERT.

>> THERE IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT

GAVE TO START WITH.

AND THIS IS IT, THIS IS -- YOU

CAN SEE IT ON THE MONITORS.

THESE ARE THE FOLKS COMING OVER,

THESE ARE SOME REFUGEES LAST

WEEK INTO IRAQ, ABOUT 45,000

CROSSED INTO IRAQ LAST WEEK.

THIS IS ONE WEEK.

>> YEAH.

>> Stewart: SO THIS IS THE

CAMP MORE RECENTLY, NOW.

>> YES.

>> Stewart: THIS IS IN THE

DESERT AREA.

IT IS MUCH LARGER THAN THAT.

IT IS 120,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE

IN THERE AND HERE,.

>> TOWS GIVE YOU A SENSE, THOUGH

OF SOME OPTIMISM WITHIN THIS, I

WANT WITH TO SHOW YOU THIS

PICTURE OF WHAT THEY CALL THE

CHAMPS.

>> GUYS COOKING CHICKENS ON THE

LEFT AND THE HUMAN SPIRIT THAT

HAS CREATED SORT OF SOME

SEMBLANCE OF NORMALCY AND

COMMERCE WITHIN THIS REALLY

DIFFICULT CONDITION.

>> WELL, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS

ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE

2 MILLION PEOPLE MOVE ACT CROSS

THE BORDER IT BASICALLY EQUATES

TO WHOLE POPULATIONS LEAVING.

>> Stewart: RIGHT.

>> TOWNS, VILLAGES, WE PROBABLY

HAVE HALF OF THE PROVINCE OF

DARA WHO NOW MOVED INTO JORDAN.

>> Stewart: YES, JORDAN HAD,

IN TERMS OF DARA, THE DARA

VALLEY AND THE AREA OF NORTHERN

JORDAN HAS BASICALLY THE SAME

SORT OF FAMILIES.

>> YES.

>> Stewart: LIKE EAST AND WEST

GERMANY SO THEY HAVE ABSORBED

350,000 PEOPLE JUST IN THE HOMES

THIS CAMP IS JUST FOR THE

POOREST OF THE POOR WHO DIDN'T

HAVE THOSE HOSPITALITIES.

>> WELL, JORDAN TRIED TO AVOID

HAVING CAMPS AND TO ITS CREDIT,

LIKE IT NEVER WANTED TO PUT

PEOPLE IN CAMPS.

NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN A REFUGEE

CAMP, NONE OF US WOULD WANT TO

BE IN A REFUGEE CAMP SO FOR THE

FIRST TWO, 300,000 PEOPLE, IT

ALLOWED PEOPLE TO COME IN AND

ABSORBED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY

BUT THE COMMUNITIES COULD NO

LONGER ABSORB THEM BECAUSE YOU

HAVE CITIES SUCH AS URBAN NORTH

OF JORDAN, 200,000 MORE REFUGEES

ARRIVED THERE.

>> Stewart: AND THESE ARE

WORKERS AND THEY WANT TO --

PEOPLE WILL HIRE THEM FOR LOWER

AND PUTS PRESSURE ON THE

ECONOMY.

LET ME ASK YOU, WILL YOU STICK

AROUND AND TALK A LITTLE BIT

MORE ABOUT IT?

>> SURE.

>> Stewart: I APPRECIATE THAT.

S THERE ANYTHING PEOPLE CAN DO?

CAN THEY DONATE?

>> FIRSTLY, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO

SAY AS I AM IN THE STATES I

WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE U.S.

PEOPLE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY HAVE

BEEN THE BIGGEST AND MOST

GENEROUS DOE MORE TO THE

HUMANITARIAN RESPONSE AND THIS

IS SOMETHING WE HAVE UNDER THE

RADAR IT HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC

CONTRIBUTION SO FAR BUT WHAT WE

HAVE SEEN IS WE HAVE BEEN ALMOST

AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF

REFUGEES CROSS THE BORDERS, WE

HAVEN'T BEEN OVERWHELMED WE WILL

NOT BE OVERWHELMED BUT WE NEED

THE MONEY TO CONTINUE TO WORK.

>> Stewart: YOU CAN DOE LATE

IN TO THE,, THIS REFUGEE EFFORT

IN JORDAN AND OTHER PLACES

AROUND THE WORLD,

UNREFUGEES.ORG.

>> ANDREW HARPER, WE WILL BE

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