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May 27, 2015 - Rosabeth Moss Kanter

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The U.S. arrests seven FIFA officials on corruption charges, allergy season reaches catastrophic levels, and Rosabeth Moss Kanter discusses America's worsening infrastructure. (21:28)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WELCOME TO THE DAILY SHOW. BOOM!MY NAME IS JON STWEART

WE GOT A GOOD PROGRAM FOR YOUTONIGHT,

MY GUEST ROSABETH MOSSKANTER, SHE IS THE AUTHOR OF

MOVE!

PUTTING AMERICA'S INFRASTRUCTURE

BACK IN ORDER.

SO I MAY HAVEOVEREXAGGERATED THE EARLIER

PART OF THE TITLE.

MAY NOT BE EXCLAMATORY ISWHAT I'M SAYING AM YOU KNOW

FOR YEARS, AND I SAY THISWITH ALL DO RESPECT,

AMERICAN SOCCER FANS-- THATIS ABOUT PERCENTAGEWISE--

THAT IS CORRECT. 3 OUT OF 250

(LAUGHTER)AMERICAN SOCCER FANS HAVE

STOOD BY WHILE THE MEDIAOBSESSES OVER OTHER SPORTS

CRIMES AND SCANDALS.

FINALLY, SOCCER IS GETTINGITS PERP WALK.

>> SEVEN HIGH RANKINGOFFICIALS THE INTERNATIONAL

SOCCER OF GOVERNING BODYKNOWN AS FIFA ARE UNDER

ARREST.

>> THE U.S. JUSTICEDEPARTMENT ACCUSES THEM OF

CORRUPTION AND BRIBE-TAKINGINVOLVING TENS OF MILLIONS

OF DOLLARS.

>> Jon: IT LOOKS TO ME LIKETHEY ARE GOING TO JAIL FOR

ALL THE MONEY THEYSTOOOLLLEEE!

ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE FOR THOSESUCH CRIMES THERE IS STILL A

CHANCE FOR FOULLLLLL!(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

THANK YOU.

(LAUGHTER)THAT IS AWFULLY FUN.

SO HOW DID THEY TAKE THESEGUYS DOWN.

KEEP IN MIND OBVIOUSLY THEYCOULDN'T USE THEIR HANDS.

>> THERE WASN'T A LOT OFSHOUTING.

THERE WASN'T A LOT OFYELLING.

THEY LET THESE GENTLEMEN,YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR CLOTHES

ON AND PACK THEIR BAGS.

THEY GOT THEM OUT.

>> IN AN EARLY MORNINGPOLICE RAID SWISS

AUTHORITIES WERE SEENESCORTING SEVERAL SENIOR

FIFA OFFICIALS FROM ZURICH'SLUXURY HOTEL.

>> Jon: SWISS AUTHORITIES.

(LAUGHTER)FIFA IS SO BAD, THEY GOT

ARRESTED BY THE SWISS.

A COUNTRY WHOSE OFFICIALPOLICY IS ON NAZI GOLD WAS,

AND I QUOTE, WE'LL ALLOW IT.

BY THE WAY, WHAT IS WITHTHE SHEET?

WHAT ARE YOU, ARRESTINGCOPPERFIELD, OH, A TIGER, OH!

GOOD TRICK, SO WHAT DID THEFIFA GUYS DO, PLEASE DON'T

SAY THE BALLS WERE UNDERINFLATEDBECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A REAL

CRIME. WHAT DID THEY DO,CORRUPTION TOTALING $150 MILLION

DOLLARS.

>> VARIOUS FORMS OF FRAUDAND BRIBERY.

>> SCHEMING TO BUY VOTES INFIFA'S 2010 PRESIDENTIAL

ELECTION GETTING KICKBACKSFOR SPONSORSHIP RIGHTS, FOR

TELEVISION RIGHTS, FORCITIES BEING AWARDED

TOURNAMENTS AND SO ON.

>> Jon: OH, YOU KNOW, YOUARE CORRUPT WHEN THE

INDICTMENT ENDS WITH, AND SOON.

BLACKMAIL, KIDNAPPING, ETCETERA, ET CETERA, YADDA,

YADDA, YADDA THE REMAINS HAVEYET

TO BE IDENTIFIED SO WHAT AREWE CHARGING THEM WITH?

>> THE U.S. INDICTMENTCHARGES THE MEN WITH

RACKETEERING, WIRE FRAUD ANDMONEY LAUNDERING CONSPIRACYS

IN A 24 YEAR SCHEME TOENRICH THEMSELVES.

>> Jon: A 24 CAREER SCHEME,TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE

THIS FIFA CORRUPTION STARTEDJENNIFER LAWRENCE AGO.

LAUGH LAUGH.

>> WHAT TOOK SO LONG.

WHAT THE [BLEEP].

24 YEARS.

WHAT WERE YOU GUYS WAITINGFOR?

THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TOPRESENT MY ONE-MAN SHOW FIFA,

A 24-YEAR STING OPERATION.

HEY, WAIT, I'M PICKING UP ONTHE WIRETAP, WE'VE GOT THEM

ON THE BRIBES AS WE SAY INTHE YEAR THAT IT IS THIS

YEAR, IT'S HAMMER TIME.

LET'S MOVE IN.

LET'S-- WHAT?

OH, YOU WANT ME TO WAIT?

OH, THAT'S SOLID RACKETEERINGEVIDENCE.

THESE TEMPLE PILOTS ARE ASGOOD AS STONED.

I'M SORRY, WE SHOULDN'TARREST THEM YET?

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'REGOING TO ARREST THESE FIFA

GUYS BUT ONE THING I DOKNOW, THE RACHEL IS TIMELESS.

>> WOW.

YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A12-YEAR TIME JUMP WOULDN'T

GIVE US ENOUGH EVIDENCE OFCORRUPTION BUT IN 2,000,

WHATEVER THE YEAR THAT IS,WHAT IS THAT, 2010, I LOVE

TAYLOR SWIFT.

MOVING-- MOVE IT, JERRY.

JERRY?

JERRY!

NO!

NO!

THE ONLY THING LONGER THANTHAT FIFA STING OPERATION

WAS THAT BIT.

I IMAGINE YOU PUT THAT MUCHWORK INTO A CASE, YOU'RE

GOING TO SAVOR THE MOMENT.

>> THIS REALLY IS THE WORLDCUP OF FRAUD.

AND TODAY WE ARE ISSUINGFIFA A RED CARD.

>> WE WILL PUT THEM IN THEPENALTY BOX, WHERE THEY WILL

BE WATCHED OVER BY SHINGUARDS.

(LAUGHTER)OF COURSE THE THEY WERE

ARRESTED IN SWITZERLAND.

FIFA IS AN INTERNATIONALORGANIZATION, WHY WAS OUR

JUSTICE DEPARTMENTINVESTIGATING THIS?

>> THE CRIMES WERE PREPAREDIN THE U.S. AND PAYMENTS

CARRIED OUT BY U.S. BANKS.

>> Jon: YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU KNOW, AMERICANS MAY INTHE WATCH SOCCER BUT WE WILL

GLADLY, NAY,ENTHUSIASTICALLY FINANCE AND

LAUNDER ITS DIRTY, DIRTYMONEY.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING STILLSEEMS OFF HEAR.

WHY DID AMERICA REALLYDECIDE TO TAKE DOWN FIFA.

>> OFFICIALS SAY THEYBELIEVE CORRUPTION MIGHT

WELL HAVE COST THE U.S. THERIGHT TO HOLD THE WORLD CUP

IN 2022.

>> THE U.S. WAS UP FOR THE2022 WORLD CUP.

AND IT LOST TO QATAR.

>> THE DECISION TO HOLD THEWORLD CUP IN A PLACE WHERE

TEMPERATURES CAN REACH 140DEGREES IMMEDIATELY RAISED

QUESTIONS.

>> Jon: QUESTIONS LIKE, WILLHUMANS SURVIVE THE WORLD CUP.

OR FOR AN EXTRA $10 MILLIONIN BRIBES, WOULD THEY HOLD

IT ON VENUS.

(LAUGHTER)BUT THE JIG IS UP.

GAME OVER, QATAR.

NOW FIFA IS BUSTED ANDAMERICA CAN HAVE ALL THAT

SWEET, SWEET SOCCER ACTIONFOR ITSELF.

>> THIS MORNING SOCCEROFFICIALS SAID THEY STILL

PLAN TO HOLD THE WORLD CUPIN QATAR DESPITE THE

ALLEGATIONS.

>> Jon: [BLEEP] LOOK IF THISONE THING WE AT FIFA PRIDE

OURSELVES IN, WHEN WE GETBRIBED, WE STAY BRIBED.

(LAUGHTER)IT'S A LITTLE SOMETHING

CALLED INTEGRITY.

BUT THESE FIFA GUYS AREFIXATED ON MONEY AND SHADY

TRANSACTIONS.

IT'S LIKE THEY WOULD RATHERBE BANKERS THAN SPORTS

EXECUTIVES WHICH RAISES ANINTERESTING QUESTION, WHAT

WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THESEFIFA SCOUNDRELS IF THEY WERE

BANKERS.

>> HSBC WAS FOUND GUILTY OFEXTENSIVE INTERNATIONAL

MONEY LAUNDERING PRACTICES.

>> FIVE OF THE WORLD'SLARGEST BANKS HAVE BEEN

FINED ALMOST $6 BILLION FORMANIPULATING FOREIGN

EXCHANGE RATES.

>> BANKING GIANT BMP PERRIBA PLEADING GUILTY MONDAY TO

VIOLATING U.S. SANCTIONS BYTRANSFERRING FUNDS ON BEHALF

OF IRAN, SUDAN AND OTHERCOUNTRIES.

IN ADDITION TO THE $9BILLION PENALTY,ED BANK

DISMISSED 30 EMPLOYEESCONNECTED TO THE

INVESTIGATION.

>> Jon: LET THE WORD GOFORTH, IF YOU [BLEEP] WITH

SPORT, YOU GO TO JAIL.

IF YOU ARE PART OF AFINANCIAL INSTITUTION, THAT

LAUNDERS THE MONEY THAT[BLEEP] WITH SPORT, YOU WILL

GO TO THE HAMPTONS OR SOMEOF YOU TO monster.com.

MIGHT BE TOO MUCH TO HOPE SINCETHIS IS BANKING INSTEAD OF

FOOTBALL BUT ANY OFTHESE BANKING PEOPLE FACING

CRIMINAL CHARGES?

>> NO INDIVIDUAL TRADERSWERE CHARGED TODAY.

ALTHOUGH ATTORNEY GENERALLORETTA LYNCH SAID THAT THE

INVESTIGATION REMAINS OPENAND ONGOING.

>> Jon: HEY, OPEN ANDONGOING.

THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT.

WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENTON THE CASE WE MIGHT

ACTUALLY SEE SOME PEOPLE GOTO JAIL.

IN 24 YEARS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Jon: HELLO, FRIENDS. IT'SHAPPENED AT LAST. WINTER'S

CHILL GREY HAS YIELDED TOTHE FULL WARMTH OF SPRING

THE NEW SEASON'S SEEDLINGS AWAKEFROM THEIR SLUMBER AND BURST

THROUGH THE THAWING LOAMBLOSSOMING IN GLORIOUS COLORS

AND RELEASING ANOTHER YEAR'SBOUNTY OF POLLEN

WHICH WHILE IT IS NICE FOR

THE PLANTS, THREATENS TOKILL US ALL!

>> ALLERGY EXPERTS THISMORNING ARE WARNING OF A

POLLEN TSUNAMI.>> A POLLEN TSUNAMI IS SWEEPING

ACROSS MOST OF AMERICA RIGHTNOW.

>> POLLEN TSUNAMI SUDDENLYHITTING VERY HARD.

>> POLLEN TSUNAMI, SOUNDSLIKE WE MADE IT UP.

>> Jon: NO!

(LAUGHTER)NO, NO, POLLEN TSUNAMI,

DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE AREAL SCIENTIFIC TERM.

AND INCREDIBLY APPROPRIATEONE COMPARING ITCHY EYES AND

SNEEZING TO NATURALDISASTERS THAT KILL HUNDREDS

OF THOUSANDS.

REALLY! I CHECKED IN A BOTANYTEXTBOOK, POLLEN TSUNAMI.

RIGHT THERE IN THE GLOSSARY

NO, I DON'T EVEN NEED TOCHECK IT I TRUST YOU, YOU ARE

THE NEWS.

ALTHOUGH I FEEL LIKE LASTYEAR THEY GAVE ALLERGY

SEASON A DIFFERENT DISASTERMOVIE NAME.

>> WE ARE DONE AND DONE WITHTHAT POLAR VORTEX FOR THIS

YEAR BUT WHAT ABOUT THEPOLLEN VORTEX.

>> WHAT SOMEWHERE NOWCALLING THE POLLEN VORTEX.

>> THE POLLEN VORTEX ISLAUNCHING AN ASSAULT.

>> YES, YES, YES.

POLLEN VORTEX OR AS IT ISSOMETIMES REFERRED TO, THE

GARDEN.

(LAUGHTER)SO SOMETIMES THE CREATIVE

DESCRIPTIONS OF ALLERGYSEASON MISS THE MARK.

BUT ISN'T THAT WHY GODINVENTED CLICHES

>> ABOUT 40 MILLION AMERICANSUFFER FROM SEASONAL

ALLERGIES.

AND THIS SPRING THEY'REGETTING HIT WITH A PERFECT

STORM OF MISERY.

>> A PERFECT STORM FORALLERGY SUFFERERS.

>> THE PERFECT STORM OFALLERGIES.

>> PERFECT STORM FOR ALLERGYSUFFERERS.

>> THE PERFECT STORM, A LOTOF SNOW, A LOT OF WATER AND

NOW A LOT OF WARM WEATHER,PERFECT STORM.

(LAUGHTER)>> IF IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR

AT THE SAME TIME, THATDOESN'T REALLY COUNT AS A

PERFECT STORM, REALLY.

IT'S JUST A [BLEEP] STORM.

IN FACT THE ONLY THINGPERFECT HERE IS HOW

PREDICTABLE THE COVERAGE OFPOLLEN IS YEAR AFTER YEAR.

>> THIS SPRING IS SHAPING UPTO BE THE WORSE ALLERGY

SEASON IN YEARS.

>> ONE OF THE WORST ALLERGYSEASONS IN AREAS.

>> THE WORST ALLERGY SEASONTHAT WE HAVE EVER, EVER

SEEN.

>> ONE OF THE WORST ALLERGYSEASONS ON RECORD.

>> ONE OF THE WORSE ALLERGYSEASONS EVER.

>> ONE OF THE WORSE ALLERGYSEASONS IN YEARS.

>> ALLERGY SEASON IS ALREADYONE OF THE WORST IN RECENT

MEMORIES.

>> THIS IS THE WORST ALLERGYSEASON EVER.

>> ONE OF THE WORST ALLERGYSEASONS IN YEARS.

>> THE WORST ALLERGY SEASONIN A DECADE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> HOW CAN EVERY YEAR BE THE

WORST EVER.

WHAT, IS IT THE KNICKS?

YEAH, BOO ME, I OWN THE TEAM.

BRINGS ME TO MY POINT, MEDIA,QUIT IT AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE

SCARED ENOUGH ALREADYWITHOUT YOUR TOXIC PLANT

SPOR FEARMONGERING AND NOWWITH EVERY YEAR IS THE WORST,

YOU ARE EMBARRASSINGYOURSELF, SERIOUSLY, YOU

LOOK DUMBER THAN SOMEBODYPHOTOGRAPHED MID SNEEZE, WE

ARE ON TO YOU.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPEAND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU,

WE'RE TO THE GOING TO TAKEIT, WE'RE TO THE GOING TO

TAKE IT AT ALL.

WE AIN'T GOING TO TAKE IT NOMORE --

>> EXCUSE ME, JON?

>> WHAT THE HELL, MIKETRINGALE, SENIOR VICE

PRESIDENT OF THE ASTHMA ANDALLERGY FOUNDATION OF

AMERICA?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

>> I HEARD YOU LAMBASTINGMEDIA FOR ITS POLLEN

COVERAGE AND I NEED TO TELLYOU THEY ARE ACTUALLY

TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUTALLERGY SEASON.

>> Jon: COME ON!

HOW CAN EVERY ALLERGY SEASONBE THE WORST ONE EVER,

THAT'S INSANE.

>> ACTUALLY, IT'S NOTINSANE.

IT'S VERY SANE.

YOU'RE INSANE.

>> Jon: WHAT?

>> LOOK AT THIS GRAPH FROM OURFOUNDATION, AS TEMPERATURES

RISE AND GREENHOUSE GASESRISE, SO DOES POLLEN

PRODUCTION EVERY YEAR SOALLERGY SEASON GETS WORSE

EVERY YEAR.

(LAUGHTER)>> Jon: WELL, OBVIOUSLY I'M

TO THE GOING TO ARGUE WITH ASCIENTIST.

>> I'M NOT A SCIENTIST,.

OR A DOCTOR.

>> Jon: WHAT.

>> NO, I'M WEARING THIS LABCOAT BECAUSE YOUR WARDROBE

LADY PUT ME IN IT.

>> Jon: WHAT ARE YOU?

>> I AM THE FOUNDATION'SSPOKESMAN SO I SPEAK FOR THE

PUBLIC SO THE AWKWARDLYSOCIAL NERDS IN OUR OFFICE

DON'T HAVE TO.

>> Jon: LOOK, TRINGALE, ISTHERE IS A POINT WHERE WE

WILL FINALLY REACH PEAKPOLLEN OR WILL THIS PROBLEM

KEEP GETTING WORSE AND WORSEUNTIL WE ALL DROWN IN OUR

OWN SNOT?

>> THERE IS A THIRD OPTION.

WE COULD MAKE DRASTICCHANGES TO OUR LIFESTYLE TO

END THE PROBLEM OF CLIMATECHANGE.

>> Jon: SO THE SNOT DROWNING.

>> MIKE TRINGALE, EVERYBODY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)WELCOME BACK, MY GUEST

TONIGHT, THE CHAIR ANDDIRECTOR OF THE HARVARD

UNIVERSITY ADVANCEDLEADERSHIP INITIATIVE

ALSO AN AUTHOR.

HER NEW BOOK IS CALLED MOVE,PUTTING AMERICA'S

INFRASTRUCTURE BACK IN THELEAD, PLEASE WELCOME

ROSABETH MOSS KANTER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Jon: NICE TO SEE YOU.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

LET ME SAY THIS.

I'M GOING TO GO OUT A LIMBAND SAY NOT ONLY IS THIS A

GOOD BOOK, WELL, THERE WEGO.

NOT ONLY IS THIS A GOOD BOOK,THIS IS AN IMPORTANT BOOK.

IT'S NOT A SEXY TOPIC,INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT A SEXY

TOPIC BUT WILDLY IMPORTANT.

OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS YOUHAVE DOCUMENTED KEEPS

CRUMBLING.

>> IT IS SHABBY, IT'SDETERIORATING.

IT'S BEHIND OTHER COUNTRIESIN THE WORLD.

IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT, BUTWORSE THAN THAT, IT HURTS

ALL OF US BECAUSE WE'RESTUCK IN TRAFFIC.

WE CAN'T GET TO WORK.

BUT THE AVERAGE AMERICANSPENDS 38 HOURS A YEAR STUCK

IN TRAFFIC UNNECESSARILY ANDTHAT'S THE AVERAGE.

>> Jon: THAT IS A WEEK.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: WHY, THIS SEEMS LIKETHE TYPE OF ISSUE, IF WE

CAN'T DO THIS, WHAT CAN WEDO?

THIS IS FIXING OUR BRIDGES,OUR ROADS, OUR RAIL SYSTEM

IF WE CAN'T DO THAT.

>> WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I'MSAYING.

>> THE REASON I WROTE THIS,NOT A SEXY TOPIC BUT YES, IT

TURNED OUT TO BE VERY SEXYWITH OUR LIVES EVERY DAY,

IT'S OUR FAMILIES, THEAVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY

SPENDS UP TO 20% OF THEIRHOUSEHOLD BUDGET ON

TRANSPORTATION AND OFTEN THEY'RENOT GETTING ANYWHERE

WITH IT.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TO FIX IT.

>> Jon: SO WHY CAN WE NOTFIX IT?

WHAT HAS GONE WRONG?

WE WERE THE LEADERS IN THEWORLD IN THE 40s AND 50s.

AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED?

>> WE WERE.

WE INVESTED THEN.

WE WERE THE TOP OF THEWORLD.

A LOT OF OUR BIG INVESTMENTSWERE IN THE 1960s, THE

HIGHWAY ACT, WE BUILT 21,000MILES OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.

WE SPENT $25 BILLION.

THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY BACKTHEN.

>> Jon: SURE.

>> YEAH, WE CAN'T SPEND THATNOW.

>> Jon: NOW WE ARE GETTINGOUR BUTTS KICKED

JAPAN HAS TRAINS THAT WILLTAKE YOU RIGHT TO YOUR HOUSE.

SOMETIMES KISS YOU GOODNIGHT AND TUCK YOU IN.

>> NOT ONLY THAT, THEY WILLDO IT AT 200 MILES PER HOUR

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKINGABOUT.

>> WHEREAS THE FASTESTAMTRAK CAN GO IS 150 MILES

PER HOUR AND THEY CAN'T DOIT FOR VERY LONG.

>> Jon: AND WE SAW WHEN THEYDO THERE ARE THESE DANGEROUS

ACCIDENTS AND PEOPLE AREKILLED.

IT'S AWFUL.

>> AND THAT'S NOT-- WHATEVERTHE PROXIMATE CAUSE WAS,

IT'S BECAUSE OF YEARS OFNEGLECT, OF INVESTMENT IN

OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT THE THING IS, REPAIRSAREN'T SEXY.

MAINTENANCE ISN'T A VISION.

SOMEBODY SAYS HEY, YOU'REGOING TO PAINT YOUR HOUSE T

IS GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY THESAME, THAT DOESN'T GET

PEOPLE EXCITED.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE VISIONSOF WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND

WHETHER IT IS BULLET TRAINSLIKE JAPAN, WHETHER IT'S

JUST GETTING CARS OFF THEROAD THROUGH RIDE SHARING.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> THROUGH BETTER LIGHT-RAIL,THAT WOULD HELP MAKE OUR

LIVES BETTER AS WELL AS THEECONOMY.

>> Jon: BUT DO YOU THINKJUDGING FROM OUR HISTORY

THAT IT WILL TAKE A FREQUENTCATASTROPHES FOR US TO PAY

ANY ATTENTION TO THIS?

BRIDGES WILL FALL.

PEOPLE WILL DIE.

AND THEN WE'LL PUT SOMETHINGTHROUGH CONGRESS WHERE THEY

CAN LOOK AT OUR EMAILS ABOUTDRIVING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

THEY WILL DO.

>> THAT HAPPENS IN REDSTATES AS MUCH AS BLUE

STATES, SO YOU THINKEVERYBODY WOULD BE BEHIND

IT.

>> Jon: YOU ARE SENDINGMONEY TO PEOPLE'S DISTRICTS.

WHY WOULDN'T THEY?

>> WILL WITH, THE THING ISYOU CAN'T SCARE PEOPLE INTO

CHANGE.

YOU CAN'T-- .

>> Jon: WHAT?

>> YOU CAN'T-- .

>> Jon: I THINK THAT'S THEONLY WAY WE WENT INTO IRAQ,

ISN'T IT.

>> AND LOOK HOW THAT WORKEDOUT FOR US.

>> Jon: MAYBE WE SHOULDSCARE PEOPLE, MAYBE THAT'S

THE TRICK.

MAYBE WE NEED TO GET MOREHYPERBOLIC AND SCARE SOME

PEOPLE.

LET THEM KNOW THE REALREALITY.

>> WELL, I THINK WHENYOU-- WELL, YES, WE SHOULD,

THAT'S WHY I WROTE A BOOK.

BUT ALSO IF YOU DON'T HAVE APOSITIVE VISION, IF YOU

DON'T BELIEVE THE CHANGE ISPOSSIBLE, YOU DON'T SAY THE

GOVERNMENT WILL JUST WASTEMY MONEY.

I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE ALLOVER THE COUNTRY WHO SAY MY

POTHOLE ISN'T FIXED.

IF WE HAVE-- SO THE OTHERTHING I TRIED TO DO IS SHOW

PEOPLE THAT WE COULD DO IT.

WE'RE AMERICA.

WE ARE THE LITTLE ENGINETHAT COULD, OR CAN, OR WILL.

BUT NOT THE LITTLE ENGINETHAT CAN'T AND WON'T.

WHICH IS WHAT WE SEEM TO BENOW.

>> Jon: BY THE WAY, THAT ISTHE LITTLE ENGINE

INFRASTRUCTURE BOOK, WORSTCHILDREN'S BOOK EVER.

JUST TERRIBLE.

DIDN'T WE HAVE THE STIMULUSTHAT PUT SOME MONEY BACK

INTO INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE,WASN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT

WAS MEANT TO REFURBISH.

>> IT WASN'T ENOUGH MONEY TWAS SHOVEL READY PROJECTS SO

THAT MEANT PRETTY MUCHFIXING POTHOLES AND SEWER

LINES.

SOME OF WHICH IS STILL GOINGON.

AND MY STREET.

>> Jon: WHAT ABOUT OURENERGY GRID, BROADBAND, ALL

THE THINGS THAT WOULD BRINGUS UP TO SNUFF AS A MODERN

COUNTRY.

>> WE SHOULD BE DOING IT.

BUT WE NEVER TALK ABOUT THEMALL IN THE SAME BREATH.

WE TALK ABOUT HIGHWAYSEPARATE FROM RAIL.

WE NEED LIGHT-RAIL.

WE TALK ABOUT THAT SEPARATEFROM BUSES.

WE DON'T THINK ABOUT HOWWE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER

TRUCKS BECAUSE MORE FREIGHTSHOULD BE CARRIED BY TRAIN

SO WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ITALL TOGETHER.

AND THE BROADBAND TECHNOLOGY,ALL THOSE APPS BY WHICH YOU

CAN SUMMON A CAR OR YOU CANFIND PARKING, THOSE HAVE

TREMENDOUS PROMISE FORREDUCING CONGESTION BUT WE

DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IN THESAME BREATH.

I TRY TO TALK ABOUT ITBETWEEN THE SAME COVER.

>> Jon: THAT IS WHY THIS ISIMPORTANT, NOT JUST GOOD AS

I SAID EARLIER, BUTIMPORTANT.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)ON THE BOOK SHELVES NOW,

ROSSABETH MOSS KANTER.

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