July 23, 2014 - George Takei

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A court ruling deals Obamacare a heavy blow, the summer news cycle needs more scandals and animal attacks, and George Takei discusses the documentary "To Be Takei." 

>> Jon: WELCOME! WELCOME TO "THEDAILY SHOW."

MY NAME IS JON STEWART.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, GEORGE TAKEIIS GOING TO BE JOINING US ON THE

PROGRAM.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]OH, WHAT A DAY IN NEW YORK CITY.

NOW I KNOW THE TEMPERATURE ATWHICH TESTICLES MELT.

[LAUGHTER]IT IS NOT PLEASANT OUT, BUT

KUDOS TO THE AUDIENCE FOR EVENSHOWING UP HERE TONIGHT.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]ALTHOUGH, SAVE YOUR ENERGY

CAUSE YOU CAN'T STAY IN HEREALL NIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]WE HAVE AIR CONDITIONING.

WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH OBAMACARE,WHICH...

[LAUGHTER]AFTER A NUMBER OF SETBACKS,

APPEARS TO BE OPERATING AS ITWAS INTENDED.

IT'S SMOOTH SAILING FOROBAMACARE.

>> BREAKING NEWS, THIS TIME ITCONCERNS OBAMACARE, AND

A DRAMATIC BLOW BYFEDERAL APPEALS COURT.

>> THIS IS A BIG BLOW TOOBAMACARE.

>> A HUGE BLOW.

>> HUGE BLOW TO THEADMINISTRATION.

>> BAD BLOW.

>> A MAJOR BLOW.

>> TOUGH BLOW.

>> SERIOUS BLOW.

>> A DEVASTATING BLOW.

>> AN ENORMOUS BLOW.

>> Jon: A LOT OF BLOWING!

[LAUGHTER]THERE IS SO MUCH BLOWING.

EVERYBODY IS BLOWING OBAMACARE.

[LAUGHTER]WHAT? WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

THAT WOULD SO DRAMATICALLY...ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY,

GET READY TO BE BLOWN.

IT TURNS OUT THAT THE AFFORDABLECARE ACT PROVIDED FEDERAL TAX

CREDIT SUBSIDIES TO QUALIFIEDLOWER-INCOME INDIVIDUALS WHO

SIGNED UP IN EXCHANGESESTABLISHED BY THE STATES.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, 36 STATES --THE REDDER ONES -- OPTED TO NOT

SET UP THOSE EXCHANGES, FORCINGTHEIR RESIDENTS ONTO FEDERAL

EXCHANGES, WHICH CAUSED ALAWSUIT AND THUS...

>> THE LAW DOESN'T EXPRESSLY SAYPEOPLE WHO GET THEIR INSURANCE

THROUGH FEDERAL EXCHANGES ALSOGET THOSE TAX CREDITS.

>> Jon: OH, MY GOD, I'M BEINGBLOWN.

YES, THEY... THEY FINALLY GOTOBAMACARE.

SEE, THE LAW SAYS YOU MUST BEENROLLED IN THROUGH AN EXCHANGE

ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE.

NOW, A NORMAL PERSON MIGHT SAY,DO YOU REALLY THINK THE LAW

INTENDED SUBSIDIES ONLY FORLOWER-INCOME CITIZENS OF STATES

THAT WEREN'T BEING DICKS ABOUTTHE EXCHANGES?

WELL, TWO OF THE THREE JUDGES INTHIS INSTANCE SAID, UH, YEAH.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT SENTENCELITERALLY.

I'M JUST HAPPY BOTH JUDGES GOTTO WORK THAT MORNING ASSUMING

THAT ONCE THEY HIT STOP SIGNSTHEIR DAY ENDS.

[LAUGHTER]NO, I HAVE TO... UNTIL THE LAW

EXPRESSLY PROVIDES A GOSIGN, WE CAN IN NO WAY

ASCERTAIN THE INTENT OFTHE FRAMERS OF THE SIGN.

SURELY THE PEOPLE HONKING BEHINDME APPRECIATE THE RIGOR OF MY

JUDICIAL ACUMEN.

[BLEEPED] YOU TOO!

SO, NOW THAT THE TWO JUDGES MORELITERAL THAN AMELIA BEDELIA HAVE

RULED, WHAT NOW?

>> THIS RULING CREATES MOREPROBLEMS.

>> IT'S CHAOS, ISN'T IT?

>> THIS IS A MESS.

>> THIS IS A BLOODY MESS.

>> DEFINITELY SCRAMBLED THINGSUP.

>> CHAOS FOR THE INSURERS.

>> CHAOS AND CONFUSION.

>> CHAOS IN OBAMACARE.

>> ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

>> Jon: [SCREAMING] NOOO! THEREIS NO LAW.

EVERYONE FOR THEMSELVES.

IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD.

YOU BLEW IT UP.

OBAMACARE IS MADE OF PEOPLE.

[SCREAMING]>> BREAKING NEWS NOW, A SECOND

FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HASREACHED A CONFLICTING OPINION,

ANOTHER DECISION.

>> THEY DECIDED THAT THEOBAMACARE SUBSIDIES ARE LEGAL.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: [LAUGHING]

I HOPE YOU HAVE INSURANCE.

SO I GUESS AMERICA HASN'TDEVOLVED INTO A STATE OF

APOCALYPTIC CHAOS, BUT THE STATEEXCHANGE CLAUSE, OTHER APPEALS

COURT, PLEASE, WHAT ABOUT THESTATE EXCHANGE CLAUSE?

>> WHAT THE FOURTH CIRCUIT COURTSAYS IS WHEN YOU READ THE

STATUTE AS A WHOLE, ANDTHIS WAS THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION'S ARGUMENT,IT SEEMS PRETTY

CLEAR THAT THAT'S CONGRESS,THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS WANTED.

>> Jon: RIGHT, BUT HOW ARE WESUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

CONGRESS WANTED.

THERE'S NO WAY OF KNOWING WHATOUR OBAMACARE FOREFATHERS

ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

I MEAN, THAT WAS WRITTEN BACK IN20 OT 9.

YOU'D NEED SOME SORT OF TIMEMACHINE TO FIND OUT WHAT

CONGRESS INTENDED OR A TIVO OR AWORKING TELEPHONE OR LEGS TO

WALK OVER AND ASK THEM.

SO WHAT EXPLAINS HOW TWODIFFERENT COURTS OFFER TWO

ENTIRELY DIFFERENTINTERPRETATIONS OF THE EXACT

SAME CLAUSE ON THE SAME EXACTDAY?

>> IN THE FIRST RULING TODAY, ATHREE-JUDGE PANEL, TWO

REPUBLICAN APPOINTED MEMBERS OFTHE FEDERAL D.C. CIRCUIT COURT,

IN THE OTHER FEDERALDECISION TODAY, THIS ONE

FROM THE FOURTH CIRCUIT COURT OFAPPEALS, A THREE-JUDGE PANEL,

ALL APOINTED BY DEMOCRATS.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

SO HOW DID THE REPUBLICAN JUDGESNOT UPHOLD OBAMACARE YET THE

DEMOCRATIC JUDGES DID?

I MEAN, I JUST WONDER WHAT --OH.

[LAUGHTER]OH, I GET IT NOW.

THE COURTS ARE JUST AN EXTENSIONOF OUR OWN BROKEN -- [CRYING]

IT'S LIKE LOOKING AT ONE OFTHOSE MAGIC EYE POSTERS.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AND LOOKINGAND THEN FINALLY THE DOLPHIN

JUMPS OUT AT YOU, BUT INSTEAD OFA DOLPHIN, IT'S AN EVIL CLOWN

THAT SKULL [BLEEPED] OURFUNCTIONING OUR 200 AND SOME ODD

YEAR DEMOCRACY.

THE LAW IS ROTTEN. OUR JUDICIARY IS ROTTEN.

IS THERE ANYTHING, I SAY TOTHEE, THAT CAN SAVE OUR COUNTRY,

OUR WAY OF LIFE?

>> CONGRESS COULD CHANGE THEWORDING OF THE LAW ITSELF.

>> Jon: GO ON.

>> THE SECTION OF THE LAW THATAPPLIED TO CREATING A

STATE-BASED EXCHANGE IF THEY HADJUST ADDED ONE MORE SENTENCE,

YOU KNOW, OR ONE MORE CITATIONTO APPLY TO THOSE THAT ARE

EITHER IN PARTNERSHIP OR CREATEDBY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THIS

WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

>> Jon: SO YOU'RE TELLING METHAT FIVE MILLION PEOPLE IN 36

STATES CAN BE SAVED FROMPOSSIBLE BANKRUPTCY OR

DEBILITATING LACK OF MEDICALCOVERAGE WITH THE ADDITION OF

ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS, "YOU CANGET SUBSIDIES THROUGH EXCHANGE

SET UP BY THE STATE OR THEFEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT OF

HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES."

YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A FULLSENTENCE.

JUST ADD "OR HHS" ON THE END...

JUST TWO WORDS.

YOU COULD SALVAGE THIS ENTIRE[BLEEPED] THING WITH A MEDIOCRE

SCRABBLE HAND.

WELL, LET'S DO IT!

THAT'S...COME ON!

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT... ITELL YOU THIS, AS I STAND HERE

TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKEIT, EVERYBODY.

>> THE HOUSE SPEAKER SAIDTODAY'S RULING IS ALSO FURTHER

PROOF THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA'SHEALTH CARE LAW IS COMPLETELY

UNWORKABLE.

IT CANNOT BE FIXED.

>> Jon: WELL, I GUESS IT'SJUST YOU AND ME, OLD FRIEND.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE][CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A ROUGHSUMMER SO FAR.

[BLEEPED].

WITH THE TERRIBLE VIOLENCE INGAZA, THE CARNAGE IN UKRAINE.

MEANWHILE, EVERYONE IN SYRIA'SLIKE, HELLO, ALSO BEING

RELENTLESSLY BOMBED.

MAKES YOU KIND OF NOSTALGIC FORTHE NEWS STORIES OF SUMMERS GONE

BY.

>> THE ULTIMATE SUMMERNIGHTMARE, GREAT WHITE SHARK.

>> THE SUMMER OF THE SHARK.

>> SHARK ATTACKS.

>> THE SUMMER OF THE SHARK.

>> Jon: I MISS THOSE DAYS.

NOTHING SAID SUMMER LIKE FIRINGUP THE GRILL, MIXING SOME G AND

T'S AND WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO BEMAULED BY FISH.

YEAH, SHARKS ARE FISH.

YOU WOULDN'T THINK THEY'RE FISH,BUT THEY'RE FISH, EVEN THOUGH

THEY LACK A SWIM BLADDER.

IT'S WHY THEY CONSTANTLY HAVETO MOVE.

THEY LACK A SWIM BLADDER.

I STAY STILL IN THE WATERBECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH THREE

SWIM BLADDERS, THREE.

I'M BASICALLY NOTHING BUT SWIMBLADDER.

[LAUGHTER]I REALLY, I HAVE A FEELING MY

WIKIPEDIA PAGE JUST CHANGED.

BUT SUMMER WASN'T JUST ABOUTSHARKS.

>> THIS MAY BE THE SUMMER OFSHARK SCARES, BUT ON ONE NEW

HAMPSHIRE BEACH, THE SCARE CAMEFROM A MENACING BALD EAGLE.

>> WHAT KIND OF A MENACE ARESHARKS AND ALLIGATORS.

>> CHILLING TALES OF KILLERMOSQUITOES.

>> Jon: CALL THE SCI-FINETWORK.

PITCH SHAR-QUITO-GATOR.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEW SPECIESON THE ENDANGERED LIST -- MAN.

[LAUGHTER][MENACING MUSIC PLAYING]

WITH MULTIPLE SWIM BLADDERS.

LOOK, I KNOW, I KNOW THOSEYEARS.

I KNOW THOSE YEARS ALSO FEATUREDTHE NON-SCARE PREDATORY ANIMAL

BASED STORIES, BUT SUMMER NEWS,MAN, IT WAS BALANCED, LIKE TAKE

LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, SURE, WEMAY HAVE HAD A LITTLE WE ARE

LIVING IN A DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMAREWHERE THE GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING

AND LISTENING AND STORINGEVERYTHING YOU DO, BUT WE WASHED

IT DOWN WITH A LITTLE DELICIOUSRACISM AND GRAVY.

AND A POLITICAL SEX SCANDAL THATSPAWNED AN INTERNATIONAL DANCE

CRAZE.

[LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE]THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I MISS THAT GUY.

THE GUY, THE GUY IN THE BLUESHIRT, NOT THE OTHER GUY.

THE OTHER GUY I DON'T MISS SOMUCH, BUT THE BLUE SHIRT,

THE OLIVER GUY, THE ENGLISH GUY,I MISS THAT GUY.

HE WAS MY FRIEND.

[AUDIENCE REACTS]THE HEAT HAS MUSHED YOUR BRAINS.

WHERE'S THIS YEAR'S FRESH SECRETIDENTITY CELEBRITY DICK PIC?

WAIT.

SECRET IDENTITY CELEBRITY DICKPIC.

THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER GREAT SHOWTO PITCH TO... WHAT'S THAT?

OH, BRAVO'S ALREADY MAKING IT.

ALL RIGHT.

ISN'T ANYTHING INNOCUOUSTHREATENING OUR SHORES THIS

SUMMER?

>> BEACH-GOER SHOT THIS VIDEOOF A SHARK.

YOU CAN SEE IT WIGGLING THERE ASIT MOVES UP TO SHORE.

>> Jon: THAT'S WHAT I'MTALKING ABOUT.

NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE INTO IT.

NOW WE GOT SOMETHING.

DAHH-DA, DAHH-DA, DAHH-DA.

>> UNFORTUNATELY THE SHARK WASCHOKING ON A SEA LION BECAUSE

THE SHARK DIED A SHORT TIMELATER.

[AUDIENCE REACTS]>> Jon: CAN'T CATCH A BREAK.

THIS SUMMER HAS BEEN SODEPRESSING THE SHARKS ARE

COMMITTING SUICIDE. ALL RIGHT,WE GOT NOTHING IN THE SHARK

DEPARTMENT, BUT COMEON, MAN. WE HAVE NOTHING BUT

DEPRESSING NEWS TO COVER.THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OTHER

OLD, RELIABLE, PROVIDER OFCRAZY.

>> SHE'S BACK, Y'ALL, PAULADEEN.

>> Jon: OH, THIS SHOULD BEGOOD.

WHAT'S SHE DOING NOW, OPENING UPA NEW RESTAURANT, A TGI BLACK

FACE?

I KNOW.

>> PAULA DEEN MAKING A COMEBACK,LAUNCHING HER OWN CHANNEL

ONLINE.

>> GUESS WHO'S GONE DIGITAL,Y'ALL?

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: YOU KNOW, JUST LICKING

BUTTER OFF YOUR FINGERSISN'T GOING DIGITAL,

YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?

SO THAT WAS NOTHING, NOTHINGALBEIT WITH A SIDE OF FRIES,

BUT COME ON. THIS IS IN AMERICA.

HOW ARE WE IN A STUPID STORYDROUGHT?

WE HAVE SUCH ABUNDANT NATURALRESERVES OF CRAZY.

HIT ME, HIT ME HARD.

>> WELL, SARAH PALIN WENT ALITTLE ROGUE ON AN ALASKA

ROADWAY LAST WEEK.>> Jon: PLEASE.

PLEASE TELL ME SHE WAS CAUGHTDRUNK RIDING ON MOOSEBACK.

>> THE FORMER GOVERNOR WASPULLED OVER FOR SPEEDING IN HER

HOMETOWN OF WASILLA. SHEWAS ASKED ABOUT IT.

SHE JOKED, "I WASN'T SPEEDING.

I WAS QUALIFYING FOR NASCAR."

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: THAT'S NOT A SCANDAL.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOODJOKE.

SON OF A BITCH. WE'RE DOOMED.

SOMEBODY GET ME A SEA LION TOCHOKE ON.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, AN ACTOR ANDAN ACTIVIST. THE NEW

DOCUMENTARY FILM ABOUT HIS LIFEIS CALLED "TO BE TAKEI."

>> GEORGE IS THE LOVE OF MYLIFE.

I'M PROUD OF HIM.

>> I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE.

>> HE'S, HE'S WONDERFUL.

>> WELL, IF YOU SEE HIM TALKINGTO ME SOMETIMES, YOU WOULDN'T

THINK SO.

>> I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THATANSWER.

>> HE'S ARGUMENTATIVE AND I'MDEFENSIVE.

>> NOTICE EVERY TIME GEORGE SAYSSOMETHING SERIOUS ABOUT OUR

RELATIONSHIP HE ALWAYS LAUGHSIMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS.

[LAUGHTER]>> PLEASE WELCOME GEORGE TAKEI.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]WELCOME.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> Jon: SO NICE TO SEE YOU.

THIS, THIS DOCUMENTARY ABOUTYOUR LIFE, "TO BE TAKEI," THERE

IS AN AWFUL LOT IN IT THAT ISINTERESTING AND FASCINATING.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR TIME ON"STAR TREK," YOUR RELATIONSHIPS,

YOUR FIGHT FOR EQUAL RIGHTS INMARRIAGE, ALL THOSE THINGS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, THERE ISSOMETHING IN THERE THAT I

THOUGHT WAS SO INTERESTING, ANDTHAT WAS YOUR FAMILY'S TIME IN

INTERNMENT CAMPS DURING WORLDWAR II.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Jon: I WAS STUNNED TO SEETHAT.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

>> YOU KNOW THAT'S... YOU'RE NOTTHAT UNUSUAL.

THERE ARE SO MANY...

[LAUGHTER]WELL, YOU ARE UNUSUAL IN ONE

RESPECT.

>> Jon: YES. NO.

I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND.

I'M NOT BRAD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT UP TOME.

I DON'T CARE.

>> OH, I HAVE TO DO A LOT OFMAKING UP WITH HIM AFTER I DO

"THE HOWARD STERN SHOW."

>> Jon: OH NO, I CAN IMAGINE.>> BUT ON THIS SHOW...

TOO FEW PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THATDARK CHAPTER OF AMERICAN

HISTORY.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS OFJAPANESE ANCESTRY WERE SUMMARILY

ROUNDED UP WITH NO CHARGES, NOTRIAL, NO DUE PROCESS, YOU KNOW,

THE CORE PILLAR OF OURJUSTICE SYSTEM, AND PUT

IN BARBWIRE PRISON CAMPS SIMPLYBECAUSE WE HAPPENED TO LOOK LIKE

THE THE PEOPLE WHO BOMBEDPEARL HARBOR.

NOW, I WAS, I HAD JUST TURNEDFIVE YEARS OLD.

BUT I STILL REMEMBER THAT DAYWHEN MY PARENTS DRESSED MY

BROTHER AND MY BABY SISTER ANDME. THEY GOT US UP VERY EARLY

IN THE MORNING AND DRESSED USHURRIEDLY.

WE WERE IN THE LIVING ROOM, MYBROTHER AND I, LOOKING OUT THE

WINDOW, AND WE SAW TWO AMERICANSOLDIERS MARCHING UP THE

DRIVEWAY WITH BAYONETS ON THEIRRIFLES.

THEY STOMPED UP THE FRONT PORCH,BANGED ON THE DOOR, AND MY

FATHER ANSWERED IT AND WE WERELITERALLY ORDERED OUT OF OUR

HOMES AT GUNPOINT.

MY PARENTS HAD LITTLE LUGGAGESFOR US TO CARRY.

AND WE WENT OUT AND WE WERESTANDING IN THE DRIVEWAY WAITING

FOR MY MOTHER TO COME OUT.

AND WHEN SHE DID COME OUT, SHEWAS CARRYING THE BABY IN ONE

ARM, A HUGE DUFFEL BAG IN THEOTHER AND TEARS WERE

STREAMING DOWN HER FACE.

IT'S A PICTURE I'LL NEVER BEABLE TO FORGET.

AND WE WERE BEHIND THOSEBARBWIRE FENCES FOR THE DURATION

OF THE WAR.

WE WERE SENT... THERE WERE TENCAMPS ALL TOGETHER, ALL IN THE

MOST DESOLATE PLACES, HELLISHPLACES.

THERE WERE TWO ON THE BLISTERINGHOT DESERT OF ARIZONA, IF YOU

CAN IMAGINE THAT.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> WE WERE SENT TO THE SWAMPS OFARKANSAS.

AND THERE WERE OTHERS IN THEWASTELANDS OF WYOMING, IDAHO,

UTAH, COLORADO.

IT WAS A DARK CHAPTER OFAMERICAN HISTORY.

>> Jon: COULD YOU UNDERSTAND ASA CHILD WHAT HAD HAPPENED?

DID YOUR, DID YOUR FATHER, DIDYOUR MOTHER, WERE THEY ABLE TO

IMPART TO YOU WHAT THIS WAS?

I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT WOULDMAKE ANY SENSE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOW, BUTWHAT DID YOU THINK WAS

HAPPENING?

>> WELL, MY PARENTS TOLD US THATWE WERE GOING FOR A LONG

VACATION TO A PLACE CALLEDARKANSAS, AND THAT SOUNDED

EXOTIC, ARKANSAS.

[LAUGHTER]WE'D NEVER HEARD OF THAT PLACE.

AND A VACATION.AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN

WE PUT ON THESE TRAINSWITH ARMED GUARDS AT BOTH

ENDS OF EACH CAR, BEING TREATEDLIKE CRIMINALS, YOU KNOW.

>> Jon: AMERICAN CITIZENS.

>> INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> NO CHARGES. YOU KNOW,

I THOUGHT EVERYONE TOOK THEIRVACATIONS WITH GUARDS LIKE THAT.

I WAS AN INNOCENT CHILD.

AND, ANOTHER SCENE I REMEMBERNOW AS AN ADULT IS EVERY MORNING

AT SCHOOL, AND THEY HAD SCHOOLSIN THOSE BARRACKS, WE STARTED

AT SCHOOL, AND THEY HAD SCHOOLSIN THOSE BARRACKS, WE STARTED

THE DAY WITH THE PLEDGE OFALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

I COULD SEE THE BARBWIREFENCE...

>> Jon: IN THIS CAMP.

>> IN THIS CAMP.

>> Jon: THAT THEY HADTAKEN YOU TO.

TAKEN YOU FROM YOUR HOME AND PUTYOU IN THIS CAMP.

>> AND THERE WAS THE AMERICANFLAG FLYING OVER THE CAMP, BUT I

COULD ALSO SEE THE BARBWIREFENCE AND THE SENTRY TOWERS WITH

THE MACHINE GUNS POINTED AT USFROM MY SCHOOLHOUSE WINDOW

AS I RECITED THE WORDS "WITHLIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL,"

AN NNOCENT KID,RECITING WORDS THAT --

>> Jon: IT'S STUNNING. DID, DOYOU REMEMBER YOUR

PARENTS CARRYING ANYTHING WITHTHEM, LIKE ANGER OR BITTERNESS?

IT'S THE TYPE OF THING I CAN'TIMAGINE EVER GETTING OVER

EMOTIONALLY OR FORGIVING?

>> WHEN I BECAME A TEENAGER, IREALLY BECAME CURIOUS ABOUT MY

CHILDHOOD INCARCERATION. AND WEHAD, MY FATHER

AND I HAD LONG AFTER-DINNERCONVERSATIONS.

AND WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THOSECONVERSATIONS IS THAT HE SAID,

"OUR DEMOCRACY IS A PEOPLE'SDEMOCRACY, AND IT CAN BE AS

GREAT AS THE PEOPLE CAN BE, BUTIT'S ALSO AS FALLIBLE AS PEOPLE

ARE."

AND HE USED THIS EXAMPLE.

IN CALIFORNIA WE HAD AN ATTORNEYGENERAL, A LAWYER WHO KNOWS THE

CONSTITUTION, BUT HE WASAMBITIOUS.

HE WANTED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

AND HE FOUND THAT THE SINGLEMOST POPULAR ISSUE IN CALIFORNIA

WAS THE GET RID OF THE JAPSISSUE, AND HE RAN ON IT, WON,

BECAME THE GOVERNOR, WASREELECTED AND THEN WAS REELECTED

AGAIN, ONE OF THE FEW GOVERNORSTO SERVE THREE TERMS IN

CALIFORNIA, AND THEN HE WASAPPOINTED TO BE THE CHIEF

JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATESSUPREME COURT.

HIS NAME IS EARL WARREN.

>> Jon: WOW.

>> GREAT MAN BUT A FALLIBLEHUMAN BEING.

>> Jon: IT'S A REMARKABLESTORY.

AND I HESITATE, YOU KNOW...

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT...THERE'S TONS OF JOY AND

FUN AND LAUGHTER IN THEDOCUMENTARY. IT'S GREAT.

>> IT'S ENTERTAINING.

>> Jon: I JUST PERSONALLY WASFASCINATED BY THAT ONE ASPECT OF

IT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCHFOR SHARING THAT.

HE SOUNDS LIKE A REMARKABLE GUY,YOUR DAD.

YOU CAN SEE "TO BE TAKEI," IT'SON DIRECTV THROUGH AUGUST

5TH, SELECT THEATERS ANDITUNES AUGUST 22ND.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: GEORGE TAKEI, EVERYBODY.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT AT 11:00.

HERE IT IS, YOUR MOMENT OF ZEN.

>> CHAOS IN OBAMACARE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO HARVARD.

YOU'RE STUDYING LAW AT HARVARD.

>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> CHAOS.

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