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May 4, 2015 - Brian Grazer

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Texan conspiracy theorists fear a military takeover, Jessica Williams investigates the end of same-sex marriage protests, and Brian Grazer discusses his book "A Curious Mind." (21:28)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: HELLO, WELCOME TO THE

DAILY SHOW, MY NAMEIS JON STEWART.

WE'VE GOT A GOOD SHOW FOR YOUTONIGHT.

OUR GUEST TONIGHT,

A FAMOUS MOVIE TELEVISIONPRODUCER AND AUTHOR

BRIAN GRAZER IS GOING TO BEJOINING US.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED.

I GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,LAST WEEK WITH EVERYTHING

THAT WAS GOING ON IN THEWORLD, AND BALTIMORE IN

PARTICULAR, IT WAS A TOUGH ONE,A LOT OF CHAOS, CONFUSION.

SO I HAPPY TO GET A GOODWEEKEND, AND COMING IN TODAY,

I WAS FEELING FRESH, FRESHSTART, I FELT GOOD.

>> NEWS BREAKING OVERNIGHTFROM TEXAS.

TWO HEAVILY ARMED MEN OPENEDFIRE AT AN EVENT FEATURING A

CARTOON CONTEST.

>> BOTH SUSPECTS ARE DEADAFTER BEING SHOT BY POLICE

OFFICERS.

>> Jon: SO, SO MY WEEKENDWAS GOOD UNTIL-- [BLEEP]

WELL, LISTEN THANK GOD NOINNOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED.

BUT WHO SHOOTS UP A CARTOONCONTEST?

GRANTED ZIGGY IS NOT WHAT ITUSED TO BE.

BUT UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINKGARFIELD HAS BEEN COASTING FOR A

LONG TIME.

FAMILY CIRCUS, THOSE AREN'TEVEN JOKES IT IS LIKE AN

ACTUAL CIRCUS, IT SEEKS TOENTERTAIN BUT IT REALLY JUST

FILLS YOU WITH SADNESS.

BUT THAT'S -- SO WHAT KIND OF CARTOON

CONTEST THERE, AS IF I DON'TKNOW, WOULD PROVOKE SUCH A

VIOLENT REACTION?

>> A GROUP CALLED AMERICANFREEDOM DEFENSE INITIATIVE

NOTORIOUS FOR ITSANTI-ISLAMIC VIEWS HOSTING

THIS AWARD CEREMONY TO GIVEMORE THAN $10,000 TO THE

BEST CARTOON DEPICTING THEPROPHET MUHAMMAD.

>> Jon: SEE THATIS-- THAT IS [BLEEP] CRAZY.

$10,000 TO A CARTOONIST?

(LAUGHTER)THAT'S LIKE FIVE YEAR'S

SALARY.

THAT CARTOONIST COULD ALMOSTCONSIDER QUITTING THEIR TWO

OTHER JOBS.

AT TWO DIFFERENT COLD BREWCOFFEE SHOPS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THATGROUP AFDI, THAT IS THE SAME

GROUP THAT LEAD PROTESTSAGAINST THE SO-CALLED

GROUND ZERO MOSQUE ANDHAS BEEN PLASTERING

NEW YORK SUBWAYS WITHANTI-ISLAMIC ADVERTISEMENTS.

AFDI IS A FIRST AMENDMENTGROUP THE SAME WAY PEOPLE

FROM PHILLY ARE SPORTSFANS.

OSTENSIBLY THEY LIKE SPORTS,BUT REALLY, THEY'RE JUST

LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TOPUNCH A STRANGER AND POUR

BEER ON SOMEONE'S BABY.

SO BUT EVEN SO, EVEN SO, ICAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO

REITERATE THIS.

IT IS NOT OKAY TO SHOOTOTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE

OFFENDED BY WHAT THEY DRAW,EVEN IF THEY DREW IT TO

OFFEND YOU, NO SHOOTING OFTHEM.

NEVER OKAY TO SHOOT PEOPLE,NEVER, EVER OKAY.

>> OKAY, WELL-- HOLD UP,WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

JON, WHAT IF I LIKE REALLYDON'T LIKE THEM.

>> Jon: YOU CANNOT SHOOTPEOPLE!

>> OKAY.

YEAH, FINE.

>> Jon: YOU CANNOT SHOOTPEOPLE.

YOU CANNOT SHOOT PEOPLEBECAUSE YOU DON'T SHARE

THEIR OPINION.

YOU CANNOT SHOOT PEOPLE EVENIF THEY OFFEND YOU.

>> WHAT IF-- WHAT IF I, LIKE,HAVEN'T SHOT ANYONE IN A

LONG TIME?

>> Jon: NO.

STILL NOT OKAY.

>> OKAY.

>> Jon: NOT EVEN IF THOSEPEOPLE SPECIFICALLY SET OUT

TO PROVOKE YOU, RESPONDINGTO CARTOONS OR WORDS OR

IDEAS WITH VIOLENCE IS WRONG!

>> BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE ISCREATING A CLIMATE OF HATE

AND INTOLERANCE BY APPEALINGTO PEOPLE'S BASEST FEARS.

BECAUSE THEN YOU JUST GOTTO-- .

>> Jon: NO!

NO, YOU CAN'T-- NO, NO!

THE VIOLENCE JUSTPERPETUATES THE FEAR.

YOU CAN'T.

THANK YOU.

>> OH.

(LAUGHTER)>> Jon: AREN'T YOU GOING TO

GO BACK DOWN WITH THE RESTOF THEM.

OR ARE YOU JUST GOINGTO --

>> IT'S KIND OF CRAMMED DOWNHERE, I'M JUST GOING TO HANG

OUT HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

>> OKAY BUT LIKE, ALSO, JON-- (LAUGHTER)

WHAT IF IT'S LIKE DEERHUNTING SEASON AND I REALLY

THOUGHT THAT THAT CARTOONCONTEST WAS LIKE A DEER, YOU

KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

>> Jon: NO SHOOTING THERE ISNO SHOOTING OF PEOPLE!

THERE IS NO SHOOTING OF-- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, JON, WESHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOOT

PEOPLE.

>> Jon: NO, I SAID -- AND ALMADRIGAL, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN

LIKE SIX MONTHS.

WHEN, WHEN DID YOU GET HERE?

>> I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE THEWHOLE TIME, MAN.

>> Jon: AND WHERE IS THISPIZZA COMING FROM.=?

ARE YOU GUYS HAVING A PARTYUNDER MY DESK AND YOU DIDN'T

EVEN INVITE ME?

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> MORE OF LIKE AN IMPROMPTUTHING, REALLY.

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, ITWAS JUST LIKE A SMALL THING,

YOU KNOW.

>> TOTALLY SMALL. IT'S A SMALL--

>> YOU GUYS!

ARE MISSING OUT ON THE --

ON THE PIZZA!

MISSING THAT PIZZA.

(LAUGHTER) WHOOO! WHOOO! WHOOO!

>> Jon: GET OUT OF HERE, SHOO ,SKAT, ALL YOU GUYS,

GET OUT OF HERE.>> ALL RIGHT.

>> Jon: JUST GO. CAN'T SHOOTPEOPLE!

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TOSHOOT PEOPLE.

I HOPE THAT SETTLES IT.

NOW THE QUESTION OF COURSEWAS YESTERDAY'S ATTACK IN

TEXAS AN ISOLATED INCIDENTOR PART OF A MORE MENACING

TREND BECAUSE WE HAVE BEENHEARING ABOUT THIS

FICTIONALLY FOR A WHILE NOW.

>> AT LEAST TEN ISIS FIGHTERSHAVE BEEN

CAUGHT COMING OVER THE MEXICANBORDER IN TEXAS.

>> ISIS KNOCKING ON OURTEXAS BORDER.

>> Jon: OH, WELL THAT'S EASY --JUST DON'T ANSWER.

WHEN ISIS KNOCKS, YOU JUST SHUTTHE LIGHTS OUT AND LIE

THERE.

BUT NEVER FEAR, UNCLE SAM IS TOTHE GOING TO LET ISIS RING

AND RUN YOU, TEXAS.

IN FACT, NOT ONLY IS THEU.S. MILITARY CONDUCTING

TRAINING OPS RIGHT NOW FORMISSIONS AGAINST

ISIS-LIKE GROUPS, GUESS WHERETHEY ARE DOING WITH THEM.

>> TEXAS IS ONE OF SEVENSTATES WHERE THE EXERCISES

WILL BE HELD.

>> THE SPECIALS FORCES TRAININGOPERATION CALLED JADE HELM

15.

>> Jon: OH, JADE HELM 15, IHAVE THAT ISSUE.

IT'S-- IT'S-- IMPRISONS CAPTAINAMERICAN JADEOPOLIS, I THINK --

REST EASY, TEXAS! GOOD GUYS WITHGUNS ARE ON THE CASE.

>> CONSPIRACY THEORIES AREONE RUNNING WILD TONIGHT ABOUT

THE ARMY'S PLAN FOR A MULTISTATETRAINING EXERCISE THIS

SUMMER CALLED JADE HELM 15.

WHILE THE MILITARY SAYS IT'SJUST TRAINING SOLDIERS FOR

THE REALITIES OF WAR,CRITICS SAY THE ARMY IS

PREPARING FOR MODERN DAYMARTIAL LAW.

>> SOME ARE CALLING IT ATEXAS TAKEOVER.

(LAUGHTER)>> Jon: YOU KNOW WHO IS

CALLING IT A TEXASTAKEOVER?

LONE STAR LUNATICS.

DALLAS [BLEEP] AND HOUSTON[BLEEP] HOLES.

TEXAS, THERE IS NO TEXASTAKEOVER.

THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENTALREADY CONTROLS TEXAS.

SINCE LIKE THE 1840s. AND THENHE LEFT AND HE CAME

BACK AND -- JUST BORROW ATEXTBOOK FROM A NEIGHBORING

STATE, IT IS ALL IN THERE.

HERE IS HOW UNBELLIGERENT --HERE IS HOW UNBELLIGERENT THE

U.S. MILITARY IS TOWARDSTEXAS.

THEY SENT A LIEUTENANTCOLONEL TO A LOCAL TEXAS

TOWN HALL TO WASTE HIS TIME.

>> ALL WE WANT TO DO IS MAKESURE THAT OUR GUYS ARE

TRAINED FOR COMBAT OVERSEAS.

>> IT IS A PREPARATION FORMARTIAL LAW.

>> THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS NOT APREPARATION FOR MARTIAL LAW,

SIR. >> THAT IS WHAT YOU SAY.

>> WE REALLY, TRULY WANT-- .

>> Jon: YOU SEE THAT RIGHTTHERE?

THAT RIGHT THERE?

THAT IS THE FACE OF SOMEONEREALIZING THEY'RE NOT

GETTING AROUND THE PUBLICCOMMENTS ON THE PLANNED

PARKING LOT DOWN BY KROGERS,NOT TODAY.

NOT IN THIS MEETING.

>> Jon: BUT COME ON CRAZYPEOPLE ATTEND LOCAL TOWN

HALL MEETING ISN'T A TEXASSPECIFIC STORY, I BELIEVE THE

CONSTITUTION SAYS YOUCAN'T HOLD A TOWN HALL

MEETING WITHOUT CRAZY PEOPLE.

I THINK IT'S IN THERE.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS BEINGTAKEN SERIOUSLY BY ANYONE

WHO HOLDS ACTUAL POWER.

>> ON TUESDAY GOVERNOR GREGABBOTT ORDERED THE TEXAS

STATE GUARD TO MONITORMILITARY PERSONNEL MOVEMENTS

AND TRAINING EXERCISESCHEDULES AND ENSURE THAT

SAFETY AND CONSTITUTIONALRIGHTS OF TEXANS WERE NOT

BEING VIOLATED.

>> Jon: OH DEAR LORD.

(LAUGHTER)YET ANOTHER WASTE OF

TEXAS FUNDS THAT COULD HAVEBEEN SPENT ON ACTUAL THREATS

LIKE YOUR INFAMOUS CHAINSAWMASSACRES.

I MEAN, TEXAS, IT'S NOT AS IF IDON'T FIND IT ADORABLE THAT

YOUR GOVERNOR THINKS YOURSTATE GUARD COULD TAKE ON THE

UNITED STATES MILITARY. IT'SLIKE A LITTLE DOG GROWLING AT A

BIG DOG OR-- OR ANEIGHT-YEAR-OLD PICKING A

FIGHT WITH THE PREDATOR.

BUT ENOUGH OF THEFEARMONGERING.

YOU KNOW THESE TYPES OFEXERCISES HAVE BEEN GOING ON

IN TEXAS FOR YEARS, RIGHT?

>> YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MARINE AIROUT HERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE

MARINE GROUND, ARMYGROUND,

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AIR FORCEHERE, NAVY AIR, ALL FIGHTING

JOINTLY, IT'S GOOD EXERCISE.

>> YEAH, IN TEXAS! OPERATIONROVING SANDS.

IN FACT THE 2001ROVING SANDS OPERATION WAS

THE LARGEST EXERCISE OF ITSKIND IN HISTORY.

BUT DID THEN PRE-OOPS GOVERNORRICK PERRY START SPREADING FEAR

ABOUT A TEXAS TAKEOVER?

HE DID NOT.

TEXAS WAS FINE WITH THECONCEPT OF WIDESPREAD

MILITARY OPERATIONS IN THEIRSTATE.

IN THE 20-OTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HASCHANGED SINCE THEN, OH,

RIGHT.

(LAUGHTER)>> AMERICA ELECTED A BRUTAL

SOCIALIST MUSLIM KENYANINEFFECTIVE HARVARD SCHOOLED

CONSTITUTIONAL PROFESSORAGITATOR WARLOCK.

SO TEXAS-- IT APPEARS, ITAPPEARS YOU ARE ON THE VERGE

OF BEING TAKEN OVER BY ISISOR THE UNITED STATES OF

AMERICA.

SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE.

AND WHEN YOU MAKE IT, JUSTREMIND YOURSELF, AND I NEVER

THOUGHT I WOULD BE SAYINGTHIS, WHAT WOULD RICK PERRY

DO?

(LAUGHTER)WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

THE SUPREME COURT ISBEGINNING THEIR DEBATE ON

GAY MARRIAGE.

MANY BELIEVE THAT THE COURTWILL FINALLY RULE IN FAVOR

OF ACCEPTANCE, THUS PUTTING THECOURT SLIGHTLY BEHIND LET'S SAY

ALL AMERICANS UNDER 80 ANDNETWORK TELEVISION.

BUT IT MEANS FOR OPPONENTSOF EQUALITY IN MARRIAGE, IT

IS A DIFFICULT TIME.

JESSICA WILLIAMS REPORTS.

>> LAST TUESDAY THE SUPREMECOURT HEARD ORAL ARGUMENTS

ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

THE OPPONENTS CAME OUT INFORCE.

>> AMERICA'S PREVERSIONS AREGROWING EXPONENTIALLY.

>> WE BELIEVE AS MY SIGNSAYS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A

THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY.

>> OUR COUNTRY GROWS DARKERAND EVILER BY THE DAY.

>> AH, GOOD TIMES.

BUT WITH THE SUPREME COURTLIKELY RULING IN FAVOR OF

GAVE MARRIAGE, CHANCES ARETHIS WOULD BE THE LAST HURRAH

FOR THE HATE CLASS OF 2015.

BEFORE THEY MOVED ON TO THEREAL WORLD, I WANTED TO

COMMEMORATETHEM.

>> SO COULD YOU SIGN THIS FOR MEPLEASE?

>> SURE. YOU GOT IT. THERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. PROMISEWE'LL HANG OUT IN TEN YEARS.

>> PROMISE.

>> WHO WOULD YOU VOTEMOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED OTHER

THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARESUPPORTING GAY MARRIAGE?

>> UM --

>> YOU'RE DEFINITELY BESTDRESSED.

>> THIS IS MY UNIFORM.

>> DON'T FEEL PRIDE, THE BARIS REALLY LOW, IT'S REALLY LOW,

THERE ARE LITERALLY NO GAYPEOPLE TO HELP YOU OUT.

DID YOU GOOGLE THISIMAGE?

>> IT'S A WITNESSING TOOL OF THETRUTH OF WHAT IS GOING ON, THAT

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE.

>> I'M GOING TO MISS THATJUSTIFICATION FOR YOU

GOOGLING TWO MEN KISSING --

WHO WOULD YOU SAY ISLIKE MOST OUTGOING?

>> MOST OUTGOING?

>> OH, YEAH.

>> BROTHER RUBEN ISREAL.

>> RUBEN ISRAEL WOULD BE THEFUNNEST GUY, YOU NEED TO

TALK TO HIM.

>> RUBEN ISRAEL.

>> WOW, EVERYBODY IS TALKINGABOUT RUBEN ISRAEL, HE'S

LIKE THE POPULAR GUY ON CAMPUS.

>> HE'S NOT REAL POPULARWITH THE GAY COMMUNITY BUT

HE IS POPULAR WITH THE STREETPREACHERS--

>> OF COURSE, THERE WAS NO WAY IWOULD GET TO TALK

TO THIS BIG MAN ON CAMPUS UNTILIT HAPPENED.

I MET MR. CHARISMA HIMSELF.

CAN I GET A HUG?

>> NO. WHY WOULD I WANT TO HUGYOU.

THERE ARE A LOT OF LESBIANSAROUND HERE YOU CAN HUG.

YOU SHOULD HAVE READ THE BIBLE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE TURNED TO GODAND THE BIBLE.

>> I CAN SEE WHY HE IS SOPOPULAR.

>> IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THISMIGHT ALL BE COMING TO AN

END.

I'M SO, JUST REALLY GOINGTO MISS THIS.

THIS IS THE LAST TIME THAT IWILL BE ABLE TO HANG OUT

WITH THESE ADOREABLE BIGOTS.

CAN YOU HOLD ME?

>> NO.

>> NO? IS IT A LITTLE TOO GAY?

I JUST-- LOVE THE WAY YOUGUYS PROTEST OVER SOMETHING

THAT IS LIKE NOT EVEN ANISSUE ANY MORE.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR HATOFF AND THROW IT IN THE AIR.

>> NO, I'M OKAY. I WILL LEAVE ITRIGHT WHERE IT IS SO EVERYBODY

CAN READ IT.

>> THE TEARS WERE FLOWING.

I'M GOING TO MISS YOU GUYS.

>> DON'T WORRY YOU'LL HAVEPLENTY OF SIN TO CRY ABOUT.

AND YOU WILL SEE US PLENTY OFTIMES.

>> OKAY, THANKS, OLD FRIEND.

I'LL DRY MY EYES TO THAT.

YOU WANT A TISSUE?

>> I'M NOT GOING TO CRY WHEN MYGOD PUT YOU IN HELL, EITHER.

NO TEARS FROM ME.

>> I'M GOING TO MISS THAT.

>> YES, YOU ARE.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> JESSICA WILLIAMS, WE'LLBE RIGHT BACK.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACKMY GUEST TONIGHT,

A PRODUCER, HE'S MADE SUCHFILMS AS "A BEAUTIFUL MIND,"

"APOLLO 13," AND 8 MILE, NOWALSO AN AUTHOR.

HIS NEW BOOK IS CALLED, "ACURIOUS MIND:

THE SECRET TO A BIGGER LIFE."

PLEASE WELCOME TO THEPROGRAM, BRIAN GRAZER, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

BRIAN GRAZER, HOW ARE YOU?

>> GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. HAPPY TOBE HERE.

>> Jon: IT'S CALLED "A CURIOUSMIND." AS WELL YOU SHOULD BE.

WHAT AN HONOR.(LAUGHTER)

"A CURIOUS MIND: THE SECRET TO ABIGGER MIND."

SO HERE'S WHAT YOU DID.

YOU CALLED PEOPLE UP.

>> YES.

>> Jon: PEOPLE THAT YOU THINKARE INTERESTING.

AND YOU SAY I'M BRIAN GRAZER. IPRODUCE FILMS AND TELEVISION.

>> RIGHT.

>> Jon: VERY SUCCESSFULLY.

>> YEAH. WELL, I HAVE DONE THISBEFORE I WAS SUCCESSFUL.

I HAVE DONE IT A FRIGHTENINGLY35 YEARS.

SO, SO I STARTED WHEN IWASN'T SUCCESSFUL.

BUT NOW I'M SUCCESSFUL.

>> Jon: WHEN, WHEN YOU FIRSTSTARTED --

>> YES.

>> Jon: HOW MANY TIMES DIDPEOPLE GO [BLEEP] OFF?

>> WELL, I DIDN'T GET THEACTUAL [BLEEP] OFF.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT I GOT THE BEHAVIOROF [BLEEP] OFF.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK YEARSSOMETIMES TO BE MEET SOMEBODY.

>> Jon: BUT IN GENERAL, YOUARE COMING TO PICK THE

BRAIN OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, FORWHAT PURPOSE?

>> JUST TO LEARN. I COME WITH,THERE'S ALWAYS, I STATE IT IN MY

IT USED TO BE A LETTER, NOWIT'S AN E-MAIL, OR JUST BEGGING,

BUT IT'S, BUT I SAY THERE IS NOASK.

I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FORANYTHING.

THERE IS NO ASK INVOLVED ANDJUST THE PURE CONVERSATION

WHERE WE TALK TO EACH OTHERWITH NO AGENDA AND WE LEARN

FROM ONE ANOTHER ANDIT'S, IT'S -- THAT'S IT.

>> Jon: WHAT DID YOU TEACH THEM?

>> YOU MAKE IT TOUGH!(LAUGHTER)

USUALLY I'M ABLE TO ASK GOODENOUGH QUESTIONS THAT THEY

LEARN SOMETHING ABOUTTHEMSELVES.

>> Jon: ABOUT THEIR PROCESS?

>> YEAH, LEARN SOMETHING ABOUTTHEIR PROCESS.

>> DID ANYONE EVER LEAVE ANDGO LET'S DO THIS AGAIN?

HAVE YOU HAD ANYREPEAT BUSINESS?

>> YEAH USUALLY NOBELLAUREATES, USUALLY SCIENTISTS,

PEOPLE WHO -- THEY HAVEPROBABLY NOTHING ELSE TO DO

EXCEPT WIN NOBEL PRIZES.

>> Jon: SO, SO NOBEL LAUREATES?HAVE YOU EVER HAD SOMEONE AT A

CERTAIN POINT WHERE YOU ARELIKE, I CAN'T MEET WITH YOU

ANYMORE. IT STARTED OUT AS ACONVERSATION, NOW YOU ARE

LIKE, IT'S TOO MUCH?>> I'M SURE I HAVE HAD THAT,

YEAH, YEAH.

>> Jon: OKAY, SO, WHAT'S,WHAT'S, WHAT'S THEIR NAME?

(LAUGHTER)

>> WELL, YOU KNOW DARRELL GATESDIDN'T WANT TO MEET ME AGAIN.

>> Jon: DARRELL GATES WAS THELOS ANGELES POLICE CHIEF.

>> THE POLICE CHIEF THAT WASTHAT WAS DURING THE RODNEY KING.

>> Jon: RIGHT. WHOSE ENTIREDEPARTMENTS WITH FALLING

UNDER SUSPICION FROM THEJUSTICE DEPARTMENT,

HAD TO COMPLETELY REVAMP.

>> RIGHT. RIGHT.

SO I DON'T THINK HEWANTED TO MEET ME.

>> Jon: HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALKAGAIN.

>> NO, NO. HE DIDN'T WANT TOTALK AGAIN.

>> Jon: YOU MET CASTRO.

>> I MET CASTRO, YES. BUT THATWAS AMAZING.

>> Jon: BUT HOW, I CAN'T IMAGINEHIM ANSWERING AN E-MAIL, LET ME

COME HAVE -- YOU SEND ALETTER TO CASTRO SAYING I'M

BRIAN GRAZER.

OR MI AMO BRIAN.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> Jon: HOW DID YOU EVEN HOOKTHAT UP?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, I WENTWITH SEVEN OTHER GUYS, ONE

OF THEM, TOM FRESTON ARRANGEDIT.

>> Jon: SURE.

>> WITH GRAYDON CARTER, BRADGRAY, LES MOONVES.

>> Jon: OH, OKAY. WHICH IS AHEAVY HITTERS ENTERTAINMENT --

>>YEAH, HEAVY HITTERS.

>> Jon: OKAY.

>> BUT WE ALL SEPARATELY TRIEDTO REACH FIDEL.

YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, IT'S NOTCASTRO, IF YOU TOUCH YOUR CHIN,

THAT'S HOW YOU DO ITWHEN ARE YOU THERE.

>> Jon: OH, YOU DON'T SAYCASTRO?

>> DON'T SAY CASTRO. YOUJUST GO LIKE THAT WE LEARNED.

>> Jon: WHAT, HE'S THE ONLY GUYIN CUBA WITH A BEARD?

JUST BRING TO YOU PEOPLE ONTHE STREET WITH BEARDS?

THEY JUST BRING YOU TO PEOPLE ONTHE STREET WITH BEARDS. NO, NO.

>> HE'S THE ONLY GUY THAT GETSTHAT GESTURE.

>> Jon: RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> SO IN ANY EVENT, WE ALL TRIEDLOBBIED OUR WAY.

NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED.

AND AS WE WERE LEAVING WE GOTTHE TAP ON THE SHOULDER.

HE'S READY TO MEET YOU.

HE'S READY TO MEET YOU.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE AT THEMILITARY PALACE, THE SEVEN

OF US, THESE GUYS, THESE HEAVYHITTER GUYS.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND LITERALLY, IT WAS A SIXAND A HALF HOUR LUNCH.

AND AFTER THREE -->> Jon: WHAT?

>> YEAH. I KNOW.

>> Jon: A SIX AND A HALFHOUR LUNCH?

>> STRAIGHT TALKING, HE TALKEDFOR SIX AND A HALF HOURS.

>> THE FIRST THREE AND AHALF HOURS, HE DIDN'T ASK

ONE QUESTION, I DON'T THINKHE BREATHED.

IT JUST STRAIGHT, IT JUST THREEAND A HALF HOURS STRAIGHT.

AND THEN HE LOOKED UP.

AND HE POINTED TO ME AND HESAID HOW DO YOU DO YOUR

HAIR?

>> Jon: THAT'S NOT TRUE.

>> THAT'S 100 PERCENT TRUE,100 PERCENT TRUE.

>> THREE AND A HALF HOURSINTO IT, HE JUST TURNED TO YOU,

BOOM --

>> AND THEN I FELT, I TOLDHIM HOW I DID IT.

AND THEN I FELT REALLYINADEQUATE.

>> Jon: NO, NO, NO.

>>> OH, TELL HOW I DID IT?

>> Jon: YES.

>> OH, WELL, I SAID I HAVE THISGEL.

AND HE WANTED TO KNOW WHATTHAT WAS.

I SAID IT WAS WATER SOLUBLEGEL.

HE HAD AN INTERPRETER.

I THINK HE UNDERSTOODANYWAY.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT UM, AND THEN YOU PUT ITIN YOUR HAIR AND YOU POP IT UP.

>> Jon: SURE, NO IT'S THEINTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE OF GEL.

>> OF GEL, YEAH. INSTEAD OFTHIS, IT'S THIS.

>> Jon: WHAT WAS HE -- DID HEKNOW?

HE MUST HAVE KNOWN WHOYOU WERE AT SOME LEVEL.

>> YEAH, HE KNEW. YES, I'M SUREHE KNEW.

WE, I THINK WE WERE BEINGFOLLOWED THE ENTIRE TIME.

>> Jon: AND HE, HE WANTED, IASSUME HE WANTED YOU TO TAKE

BACK A MESSAGE OF -->> YEAH.

>> Jon: SO WAS THIS APOLITICAL POLEMIC THAT HE

DELIVERED YOU GUYS?

>> YES, PRETTY MUCH.

I MEAN, HE KNOWS EVERY LITTLECENTIMETER OF THAT ISLAND.

HE KNOWS WHAT A KILOWATTPRODUCES.

HE KNEW EVERYTHING OF THEPHYSICS OF THIS ISLAND AND

EVERY ASPECT OF ITS CULTURE. ANDHE GETS PRETTY CONVINCING.

>> Jon: SURE.>> I MEAN, HE GETS YOU TO ALMOST

WANT TO STAY, SO UM,AND THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.

>> Jon: AND IF YOU DON'T YOUWILL ANYWAY.

>> YEAH. YEAH.

>> Jon: I MEAN THAT'S -- HE'S ADICTATOR.

>> HE'S A DICTATOR, THAT'S FORSURE.

>> Jon: RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> AND I DID MAKE THISMISTAKE, WHICH I, I DON'T KNOW

IF THIS WILL TRAVEL WITH THISAUDIENCE OR ANYTHING.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT BASICALLY I SAID,I HAVEN'T SAID THIS TO ANYONE

BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT, CAUSEYOU'RE -- I FELT INADEQUATE

JUST TALKING ONLY ABOUT MYHAIR, SO I THOUGHT WELL I'M A

MOVIE PRODUCER, BY THE WAY -->> Jon: RIGHT.

>> CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IFHE KNEW THAT AND HE SAID

WHAT DO YOU DO.

AND I WAS SO NERVOUS, I SAIDI JUST RECENTLY PRODUCED A

MOVIE CALLED "CLOSET LAND"WHICH IS ABOUT TORTURE IN

THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.

I THOUGHT I WOULD GET SOMERESPECT FOR THAT, BUT I THOUGHT,

THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTICTHING, AND MY FRIENDS

INCLUDED, MY FRIENDSINCLUDING TOM AND LES AND GRAY

LOOKED AT ME LIKE WHY DIDYOU SAY THAT.

HE'S GOING TO DO THAT TO YOU.

SO, BUT THAT WAS THE END OFTHAT.

>> Jon: HOW DID YOU BREAK THATSESSION?

>> HOW WE BROKE THAT WASGRADEN CARTER SAID

HE ALSO PRODUCED "THENUTTY PROFESSOR."

SO.

>> WELL THERE YOU GO.

"A CURIOUS MIND," MANY MORESTORIES WHERE THAT CAME

FROM.

IT'S ON THE BOOKSHELVESNOW. BRIAN GLAZER.

>> Jon: THAT'S ALL FOR US.

WE'RE GOING TO CHECK INQUICK WITH LARRY WILMORE AT

THE NIGHTLY SHOW. LARRY,WHAT'S HAPPENING. LARRY --

>> HEY, JON. YEP?

>> Jon: LOVE, LOVE, LOVED THEPIECE IN BALTIMORE WHERE YOU

WENT DOWN TO THE DINER AND YOUSPOKE WITH GANG MEMBERS.

>> Larry: THANKS, JON.

THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN.

IN FACT, ONE OF THEM SAID HESAW YOU AT THE PROTEST.

>> Jon: ONE OF THE GANGMEMBERS -- NO I WAS HERE THE

WHOLE TIME.

I WAS DOING SHOWS.

>> Larry: HOW LONG YOU HAVEBEEN A CRIP, JON?

(LAUGHTER)>> Jon: 17 YEARS.

>> Larry: YUP, THAT MUSTTAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME.

>> Jon: I'M ACTUALLY, I'M IN THERESERVES, SO IT'S-- ONE

WEEKEND A MONTH.

(LAUGHTER)>> Larry: AND YOU'RE LEAVING

THE SHOW TO GO FULL-TIMEGANGBANGER, ISN'T THAT --

>> Jon: LARRY WILMORE,EVERYBODY, LARRY

WILMORE.

>> WAIT, YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THEQUESTION.

ANSWER THE QUESTION,JON!

>> Jon: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

NO, THAT'S OUR SHOW, HERE ITIS, YOUR MOMENT OF ZEN.

>> BEARDS ARE BIG IN SIZE ANDPOPULARITY.

AND NOW WE'RE FINDING OUTSOME ARE ALSO AS DIRTY AS A

TOILET.

>> THANKS FOR SHARING.

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