January 16, 2014 - Steven Brill

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Women breach the glass ceiling, Utah and Oklahoma grapple with marriage equality, and Steven Brill weighs in on unreasonably high health care costs.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME TO "THE DAILY

SHOW".

MY NAME IS JON STEWART.

MY GUEST TONIGHT AUTHOR STEVEBRILL, THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE

SMASH HIT HEALTH CARE ARTICLETONIGHT WE DISCUSS IT MORE.

THE TOP STORY GOES OUT TO ALLTHE FELLOWS IN THE HOUSE.

[ LAUGHTER ]HAVE YOU GENTLEMEN, FOR THE PAST

50-75 YEARS OR SO FELT SOMETHINGBREATHING DOWN YOUR NECK?

A PRESENCE WAITING TO POUNCE ONWHAT WAS ONCE YOURS.

YOU AIN'T DREAMING, BUDDY, THEYARE CALLED WOMEN.

[LAUGHTER]AND THEY ARE BREAKING DOWN

BARRIERS LEFT AND RIGHT.

THEY ARE THE SUBJECT OFTONIGHT'S SEGMENT JON STEW --

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]IF I MAY -- THE PLACEMENT OF THE

COMMA IS ACTUALLY --[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]THERE'S NO QUESTION THE PAST FEW

MONTHS THERE'S BEEN A SERIES OFWONDERFUL FIRSTS FOR WOMEN.

>> HISTORIC CONFIRMATION.

JANET YELLIN WILL BECOME THEFIRST FEMALE CHAIR OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE.

>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ITS 325YEAR HISTORY LLOYD'S OF LONDON

HAS A FEMALE CEO.

>> THE AUTO INDUSTRY GIANT TAPSITS FIRST EVER FEMALE CEO.

>> WE HAVE A NEW CEO WHO HAPPENIT'S BE A WOMAN, A CAR GAL.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

[ APPLAUSE ][CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Jon: YOU KNOW WHAT?

I IMAGINE HER FIRST MEMO TO THECOMPANY COULD BE SOMETHING ALONG

THE LINES OF "HEY FROM NOW ONRATHER THAN CAR GAL --

[LAUGHTER]-- YOU CAN JUST CALL ME CEO."

[LAUGHTER]SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHERE YOU

TURN THE FLOOR IS LITTERED WITHSHATTERED GLASS.

>> TWITTER NAMED ITS FIRSTFEMALE BOARD MEMBER.

>> CAROLINE KENNEDY THE FIRSTFEMALE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN.

>> VICE ADMIRAL MICHELLE HOWARDIS NOMINATED TO THE RANK OF FOUR

STAR ADMIRAL.

SHE WOULD BE THE FIRST WOMAN TOEVER HOLD A RANK THAT HIGH IN

THE NAVY.

>> THE EXTREMIST GROUP HAMAS HASA NEW FEMALE SPOKESPERSON.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Jon: OH, YOU'VE

COME A LONGWAY, BABY.

I'M SURE NOW WE'LLBE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN

HAMAS IMMEDIATELY.

THERE YOU GO

FOR MORE ON THIS WE TURN TOSENIOR WOMEN'S ISSUES

CORRESPONDENT KRISTEN SCHAAL.

KRISTEN --[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

VERY NICE OF YOU TO BE HERE.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> Jon: KRISTEN IT SEEMS LIKEDOORS ARE OPENING UP LEFT AND

RIGHT FOR WOMEN NOW.

>> YEAH AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZEFOR THAT.

WE JUST DIDN'T REALIZE HOW HARDOUR SUCCESS WOULD BE ON MEN.

>> IN THIS FEMININIZEDATMOSPHERE IN WHICH WE EXIST

TODAY GUYS WHO WERE MASCULINEAND MUSCULAR LIKE THAT IN

THE PRIVATE CONDUCT AND OLDFASHIONED TOUGH GUYS RUN SOME

RISKS.

YOU ARE IN CONSTANT DANGER OFSLIPPING OUT AND SAYING

SOMETHING THAT WILL GET YOU INTROUBLE AND MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A

SEXIST OR MAKE YOU SEEM THUGGISHOR WHATEVER.

>> THAT IS SO TRAGIC, POORINCREDIBLY MANLY, MUSCULAR MAN'S

MAN BRITT HUME.

IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TOFEMININIZE THE ATMOSPHERE BY

COMING IN WITH CUT FLOWERS ANDBREAST MILK FAX MACHINES.

>> Jon: YOU FAX BREAST MILK?

>> AM I GOING TO FAX FORMULA?

I'M NOT A MONSTER.

>> Jon: MEN ARE NOT THAT BAD.

>> OF COURSE NOT.

LET'S DO A ROLE PLAY OF WHAT ITWAS LIKE.

WAI'LL BE EVERY MANLY MAN BOSSI'VE

EVER HAD AND YOU BE A LADYSEEKING EMPLOYMENT.

>> Jon: OKAY.

I'LL BE A LADY SEEKINGEMPLOYMENT.

A LADY.

>> AH.

THANKS FOR COMING IN, AH?

QUIT SUCKIN ONMY MAN STICK, I GOT

A JOB INTERVIEW, ALL RIGHT.

[ LAUGHTER ]COME ON, I GOT BUSINESS.

[ LAUGHTER ]SORRY ABOUT THAT SUGAR TITS.

[ LAUGHTER ]SO WHAT IS YOUR POISON?

ARE YOU A SCOTCH MAN?

>> Jon: NO, I'M OKAY THAT --WE'RE AT A JOB -- OKAY I'M JUST

GONNA --[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S DISGUSTING.

YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSETEETOTALING

VIETNAMESE POLOCKS ARE YOU.

>> Jon: THAT'S RACIST?

>> STOP, LIGHTEN UP, OKAY?

WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS.

>> Jon: A BA.

>> YEAH, WHAT ABOUT YOUR T ANDA.

>> Jon: WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

>> TALKING ABOUT YOUR TITTIESAND YOUR ASSIES, GIVE US A SPIN.

I WANT TO SEE THEM BOUNCE.

>> Jon: THEY DON'TBOUNCE.

I'M NOT GOING TO -- THEYDON'T --

>> ARE YOU GOING TO CRY?

>> Jon: NO.

>> OH, YEAH BECAUSE IT LOOKSLIKE YOU ARE GOING TO CRY.

>> Jon: I'M NOT GOING TO CRYKRISTEN.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO CRY KRISTEN.

>> Jon: SHUT UP.

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?

STOP YOU MADE YOUR POINT.

IT WAS TERRIBLE BACK THEN, FINE.

>> WELL, THAT WAS MY POINT.

UNTIL I TRIED IT, JON THAT WASINCREDIBLE, OKAY.

HOLY (bleep) I NEVER KNEW HOWTHRILLING IT IS TO HAVE ALL THAT

POWER TO ABUSE.

I FEEL ALIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

MY HEART IS POUNDING.

I UNDERSTAND HOW UPSET MEN MUSTBE TO LOSE ALL THAT.

>> Jon: I GUESS MEN WILL JUSTHAVE TO ADJUST TO A NEW WORLD OF

EQUALITY WHERE WE TREAT EACHOTHER WITH MUTUAL RESPECT.

>> (bleep) THAT.

THISABSOLUTE POWER IS TOO MUCH OF A

RUSH.

WE'RE COMING FOR IT AND WE'REGOING TO ABUSE IT MUCH

BETTER THAN MEN.

>> Jon: I DON'T SEE HOW IT'SPOSSIBLE.

WE MADE WOMEN SLEEP WITH US FORJOBS.

>> YOU THINK SEXUAL HARASSMENTIS BAD?

WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH YOU YOU'LLBE BEGGING FOR GROPING BECAUSE

US LADIES WORK FROM THE INSIDEOUT.

I'LL SHOW YOU.

LET'S DO ANOTHER ROLE PLAY.

>> Jon: I DON'T WANT TO.

>> OF COURSE YOU DON'T WANT TOBECAUSE IT'S FUN AND YOU DON'T

LIKE HAVING FUN.

THAT'S WHY AFTER THE SHOW WE GOOUT WITHOUT YOU AND TALK ABOUT

HOW MUCH FUN YOU USED TO BE.

>> Jon: IS THAT TRUE, YOU DOTHAT?

>> YEAH, NOBODY HERE LIKES YOUAND I'M TELLING YOU THAT AS A

FRIEND BUT I'M NOT YOUR FRIENDAND I WANT MY BEST FRIEND

NECKLACE BACK.

>> Jon: BUT YOU GAVE IT TO MEAND SAID WE'D BE BEST FRIENDS

FOREVER.

IT'S MY FAVORITE.

>> IT'S A SOFT PAIN YOU'LL NEVERSHAKE.

THAT'S THE POWER OF WOMEN.

STAND UP AND DO A SPIN FOR ME.

>> Jon: HOLY (bleep).

THANK YOU.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]MARRIAGE EQUALITY SEEMS

TO BEGAINING TRACTION IN EVEN THE

REDDEST OF RED STATES.

WE TAKE A LOOK AT A SPECIALEDITION OF -- GAYWATCH

[LAUGHTER][CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

SOME PEOPLE HAVE PAY CABLE.

FIRST UP, BIG NONOSMOND NEWS OUT OF UTAH.

>> WEDDING BELLS FOR SAME SEXCOUPLES IN UTAH.

A FEDERAL JUDGE STRUCK DOWN THESAME-SEX MARRIAGE BAN DECLARING

IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL THERE BYLEGALIZING GAY UNIONS IN THAT

STATE.

>> Jon: WOOO!

WOOO!

WOOO!

CHEERS TO YOU, UTAH, FINALLY ALLTHOSE CLEAN CUT YOUNG MEN IN

SHORT SLEEVE SHIRTS WE SEEPAIRED UP HERE IN NEW YORK CITY

CAN GO HOME AND GET MARRIED.

>> THE SUPREME COURT HAS PUT ASTOP TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGES IN

UTAH.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Jon: OH, THOSE POOR BOYS.

>> THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HASJUST ANNOUNCED THAT THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT WILL RECOGNIZE SAMESEX MARRIAGES PERFORMED FOR A

SHORT TIME IN UTAH.

DOES IT CLEAR UP ANY OF THECONFUSION?

>> IT REALLY DOESN'T.

IT'S ON HOLD IN UTAH.

UTAH IS NOT RECOGNIZING THEMARRIAGES.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: HOORAY IT'S BACK ON

KIND OF.

HERE COMES THE BRIDES BUT ONLYFOR FEDERAL TAX PURPOSES.

[ LAUGHTER ]OTHERWISE IT'S JUST SHARON AND

HER ROOMMATE.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS IN THIS

COUNTRY THAT YOU CAN BE AMARRIED COUPLE ONE MONTH AND

THEN THE NEXT MONTH HAVE IT BECOMPLETELY ANNULLED.

>> Jon: THE WHOLE THING ISRIDICULOUS.

I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING YOU HAVETO FIGURE THIS OUT, UTAH BECAUSE

THESE COUPLES ARE SIMULTANEOUSLYCONSIDERED MARRIED AND

UNMARRIED.

A SHRODINGER'S COUPLE IF YOUWILL. SHRODINGER'S COUPLE, IF

YOU WILL.

>> NO, I WON'T JON.

>> Jon: JASON I'M TRYING TODO A HEADLINE HERE.

>> OH COOL. IS IT A HEADLINE ONHOW YOU

FUNDAMENTALLY MISUNDERSTOODSHRODINGER'S THEORY?

>> Jon: WHAT ARE YOU TALKINGABOUT?

>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CERTAINRHETORICAL SIMILARITIES BUT A

LEGAL DISACCORDANCE IS HARDLYANALOGOUS TO QUANTUM

INDETERMINECY.

>> Jon: I DIDN'T REALIZE YOUHAD SUCH A FLUENCY IN POST

NEWTONIAN PHYSICS.

>> PERHAPS NEXT TIME YOU WON'TBE SO CAVALIER IN YOUR

ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME.

NOW IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME I SEEMTO HAVE GOTTEN MY PENIS STUCK

INSIDE THIS CANTALOUPE.

[ LAUGHTER ]-- MY MEANOUS STUCK INSIDE

THIS -- PENIS STUCK INSIDE THISCANTALOUPE.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Jon: ALL RIGHT.

EITHER THAT OR YOU HAVE ATERRIBLE MOSQUITO BITE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH JASON.

[ LAUGHTER ][ APPLAUSE ]

ALL RIGHT.

THE OLD QUANTUM PHYSICS AND IGOT MY [BLEEP] STUCK IN

SOME FRUITGAG.

MOVING ON, OKLAHOMA, IF UTAH ISA DEEP CLARET, OKLAHOMA IS

A SLIGHTLY LITTER VERMILION.

SOMETIMES I NAME COLORS FOR THEJ CREW CATALOGUE.

>> A FEDERAL JUDGE RULES THATOKLAHOMA'S BAN ON MARRIAGE

EQUALITY WASUNCONSTITUTIONAL

>> Jon: IF THAT KEEPSGOING

SOMEONE WILL WRITE A MUSICALABOUT THAT PLACE. THIS DECISION

CAME IN PART BECAUSE OF COUPLESLIKE SHARON BALDWIN AND MARY

BISHOP,TWO OF THE PLAINTIFFS WHO

SUED TO OVERTURN THE BAN.

>> YOU ARE BOTH JOURNALISTS.

GIVE ME A HEADLINE ON THISSTORY.

YOU FIRST, SHARON.

>> ECSTASY.

>> Jon: WOW.

YOU KNOW I THINK THE ONLY THINGYTHAT ANGERS CONSERVATIVES MORE

THAN A LESBIAN COUPLESUING FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS A

LESBIAN COUPLE OF JOURNALISTSSUING FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY.S

IT'S AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE, ONEPEOPLE HAVE SENSITIVE FEELINGS

ABOUT. WHO BETTER TOADDRESS IT THAN TEXAS

CONGRESSMAN LOUIE GOHMERT.

>> THE SUPREME COURT DIDN'T SEEANY BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE TO

SUPPORT MARRIAGE BEING BETWEEN AMAN AND A WOMAN AND THEY NEED

SOME BASIC PLUMBING LESSONS.

>> Jon: YEAH, MAN, PLUMBING,RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]YOU ARE RIGHT LOUIE WE HAVE TO

MODEL ALL SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPSON PLUMBING WHERE THE ONLY

ACCEPTABLE MATCH IS A MALEPIPE TO A FEMALE FITTING UNLESS

OF COURSE YOU HAVE A MALE TOMALE CONNECTION OR FEMALE TO

FEMALE CONNECTION ORA COUPLING BETWEEN TWO MALES OF

DIFFERENT SIZESAND ONE FEMALE.

AI WOULDN'T WOULDN'T RECOMMENDIT,

JON, YOU'LL NEVER GET IT OFF.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A COLUMNISTFOR TIME MAGAZINE PLEASE WELCOME

BACK TO THE PROGRAM STEVENBRILL.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]SIR --

>> NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> Jon: HAVE A SEAT.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: SO LAST TIME WE WERE>>TALKING TO YOU YOU HAD JUST

WRITTENTHIS INCREDIBLE ARTICLE FOR

MAGAZINE 20 PAGES CALLEDBITTER PILL ON THE REAL

FINANCIAL CRISIS IN OUR MEDICALSYSTEM, THE PRICING, THE

HOSPITAL -->> THE HIGH PRICES.

>> Jon: HIGH PRICES, EXACTLY.

HAS THAT -- HAVE THEY TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT

IN ANY REAL STEPS?

THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS INOBAMACARE THAT TAKE A STEP

TOWARD DOING A LITTLE BIT BUTBASICALLY NO.

WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING SINCE I'VEBEEN

PREPARING FOR A BOOK ABOUTTHE WHOLE ROLL OUT OF OBAMACARE

AND WHAT IT MEANS. AND NOWI'VE STARTED A SERIES OF

COLUMNS IN TIME ABOUT IT.

WHAT I'M FINDING IS KIND OFOBVIOUS WHICH IS WHAT OBAMACARE

DID WAS IT CREATED A WAY FORLOTS MORE PEOPLE TO GET

INSURANCE PROTECTION, WHICH IS AVERY GOOD THING.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT IT DIDN'T CHANGE THEPRICING STRUCTURE SO THE FIRST

PATIENT THAT I WROTE ABOUT WHO IWENT BACK TO WHO NOW HAS

OBAMACARE PROTECTION, THIS WASTHE MAN WHO HAD TO PAY UP FRONT

IN CASH $13,700 FOR ATRANSFUSION OF A CANCER DRUG.

HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.

>> Jon: $13,000 UP FRONT -->> $13,700 BUT WHO IS COUNTING.

>> Jon: UP FRONT TO GET ACANCER DRUG.

>> PART OF AN $83,000 UP FRONTBILL FOR HIS INITIAL TREATMENT.

THAT DRUG COST THE DRUG COMPANY$300.

THE CEO OF THE DRUG COMPANYMAKES OVER $11 MILLION.

NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE NOWHAS INSURANCE COVERAGE.

THERE'S A PREMIUM SUPPORTSYSTEM.

HE'S NOT VERY WELL TO DO.

THE FAMILY MAKES LESS THAN$40,000 A YEAR WHICH MEANS WE

PAY HIS INSURANCE PREMIUM, WEBEING THE TAXPAYERS AND GUESS

WHAT THE PRICE OF THE DRUG STILLIS $13,700.

>> Jon: THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

>> THAT HASN'T CHANGED.

THE COST HAS SHIFTED TO THETAXPAYERS WHICH I THINK IT'S A

GOOD THING BUT IT'S ANOUTRAGEOUS THING THAT WE HAVEN'T

DONE ANYTHING TO CONTROL THECOSTS AND PROFITS.

>> Jon: THE IDEA IS WHAT THISNEW SYSTEM DOES IS BRINGS MORE

PEOPLE INTO THIS DETERIORATINGBUILDING.

>> THE GOVERNMENT CREATES AWHOLE BUNCH OF NEW CUSTOMERS TO

GET GOUGED IN THE HEALTH CARESYSTEM.

>> Jon: HOW COME BECAUSE ONEOF THE CONVERSATIONS

ABOUT THIS IT WOULD HELPUS WITH PRICE CONTROLS?

>> THERE'S NOTHING IN IT.

THE WAY THEY DEAL WITH PRICECONTROLS,

FOR EXAMPLE, IS TOHAVE REAL ANTITRUST PROTECTION

WHEN HOSPITALS GOBBLE UP OTHERHOSPITALS.

IT'S TO DO WHAT EVERY OTHERCIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD

DOES WHICH IS TO CONTROL THEPRICE OF DRUGS.

YOU LIKE TO COMPARE THE HEALTHCARE MARKET.

EVERYONE SAYS IT'S AMARKETPLACE.

THAT GUY HAS NO CHOICE ABOUTBUYING THAT DRUG.

HIS DOCTOR TOLD HIM THIS WILLSAVE YOUR LIFE.

YOU DON'T TAKE IT YOU WILL DIE.

>> Jon: THAT IS THE CONSERVATIVEPUSHBACK ON YOUR ARGUMENT

WHICH IS THAT THE ANSWER HERE ISNOT CONTROLLING IT IT'S ALLOWING

COMPETITION.

ONE OF COLUMNISTS MAYBE IT WASGEORGE WILL SAID IT'S GETTING

MORE PEOPLE WITH SKIN IN THEGAME, LETTING THEM KNOW HOW MUCH

THEY ARE PAYING FOR THAT CANCERHDRUG SO

THEY CAN BE SMART CONSUMERS ANDGO OH I CAN GET THAT CANCER DRUG

FOR LESS AT JIFFY CANCER.

>>THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

>> Jon: THAT'S THE ARGUMENTTHEY ARE MAKING.

>> IT HAS A PATENT.

IT'S A MONOPOLY THE GOVERNMENTHAS GIVEN THE DRUG COMPANY.

THERE'S NO OTHER DRUG.

SECOND AS I EXPLAINED TO GEORGEWILL ON ANOTHER TELEVISION

PROGRAM WAY BACK WHEN WE TRIEDPTHE EXPERIMENT OF SKIN IN THE

GAME. REMEMBER IN THE FIRSTARTICLE, THAT GUY HAD

TO PAY THE ENTIRE $83,000 BYTAPPING OUT HIS CREDIT CARDS,

TAPHIS MOTHER-IN-LAW'S CREDITCARDS.

HE HAD $83,000 WORTH OF SKIN INTHE GAME AND WHAT GOOD DID IT DO

HIM?

HIIT'S NOT LIKE HE WOKE UP ONEMORNING AND SAID I WANT TO

SHOP FOR A CANCER DRUG.

IF I LIKE IT I'LL BUY IT BUT IFI DON'T I'LL BUY SHOES INSTEAD.

>> Jon: AT WHAT POINT BECAUSETHERE'S THIS IDEA THAT THE

HEALTH CARE SYSTEM SHOULDFUNCTION AS ONE OF OUR REGULAR

UNFETTERED FREE MARKET SYSTEMSBUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT.

IN CONNECTICUT THERE'SMONOPOLIES ON HOSPITALS.

YOU DON'T DECIDE WHERE THEAMBULANCE TAKES YOU.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THERE'S NO SEMBLANCE OF A FREEMARKET.

WHAT DOES A FREE MARKET USUALLYHAVE?

THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THEBUYER AND THE SELLER.

THERE'S NO BALANCE YOU HAVE TOBUY THAT PRODUCT.

YOU CAN'T GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TOBUY IT IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE

EMERGENCY ROOM OR EVEN IF YOU'REGOING ANYWHERE IN NEW HAVEN,

BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY HOSPITALAND THEY OWN ALL THE DOCTORS

PRACTICES.

THERE'S ALSO IN A FREE MARKET,KNOWLEDGE.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGEWHAT TO BUY.

YOUR DOCTOR IS TELLING YOU TOBUY IT.

YOUR DOCTOR IS TELLING YOU TOGET THIS CAT SCAN AND THIS MRI

PROBABLY AT A HOSPITAL THATEMPLOYS THAT DOCTOR SO HE HAS AN

INCENTIVE TO DO THIS.

THERE'S NO FREE MARKET.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THEWORLD THAT INSISTS ON THE NOTION

THAT THERE CAN BE A FREE MARKET.

EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TRIEDSOMETHING ELSE AND IT WORKS

BETTER.

THEY GET BETTER HEALTH CARERESULTS AT A MUCH LOWER COST.

THIS ISN'T TERRIBLY CONFUSING.

>> Jon: I GUESS WHAT IT BOILSDOWN TO, THE REAL ISSUE IS WHY

DO YOU HATE AMERICA?

>>THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

HOW DID YOU KNOW?

>> Jon: STICK AROUND.

>> JYOU TALK ABOUT TAXPAYERSSUBSIDIZING THE INSURANCE

PREMIUMS BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT WEWERE DOING BEFORE WITH THE

UNINSURED IN THE EMERGENCYROOMS.

BITTER PILL APPEARS IN THE NEWISSUE OF TIME MAGAZINE.

IT'S A MONTHLY COLUMN. STEVENBRILL.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: HEY, THAT'S OUR SHOW.

YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAST TEN YEARSOR SO WE'VE HAD A WRITER HERE

NAMED TIM CARVELL WHO ACTUALLYBECAME THE HEAD

WRITER AND WHOSE CONTRIBUTIONSTO THE PROGRAM HAVE BEEN

ENORMOUS AND FOUNDATIONAL.

HE IS THAT RAREST OF BIRDS.

HE IS A GREAT WRITER AND ANINCREDIBLE TALENT BUT ALSO A

VERY PLEASANT INDIVIDUAL.

THOSE ARE VERY HARD TO FIND.

I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IF THEREIS

AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE ATIM CARVELL EXHIBIT IN A

MUSEUM SOMEWHERE.

HE IS GOING OFF TO HELP OUR GOODFRIEND JOHN OLIVER CREATE THEIR

NEW PROGRAM WHICH THOSE TWOTOGETHER IT'S GOING BE

POWERHOUSE.

WE'RE GOING TO MISS THEM ALLLIKE CRAZY CAKES.

WE WISH HIM THE BEST.

IN THE TEN YEARS WE HAD TO PUTHIM ON THE SHOW TWO WEEKS

AGO TO GET THIS MOMENT OF ZEN.

I'M GOING TO ORDER IT RIGHT NOW.

>> Jon: THAT WAS FAST, THANKYOU SO MUCH, SIR.

VERY KIND OF YOU, SIR.

NO, YOU

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