August 7, 2014 - Tracy Droz Tragos

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Former Governor Bob McDonnell and his wife face corruption charges, Rand Paul begins to act like a presidential candidate, and Tracy Droz Tragos discusses "Rich Hill."

>> Jon: HEY, WELCOME TO "THEDAILY SHOW."

MY NAME IS JON STEWART.

WE GOT A NICE PROGRAM FOR YOU.MY GUEST TONIGHT,

TRACY DROZ TRAGOS, SHE IS THEDIRECTOR OF THE

DOCUMENTARY "RICH HILL," WHICH

IS, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WORK. IT'SVERY POWERFUL.

YOU SHOULD SEE IT.

OBVIOUSLY NOT RIGHT NOW.

[LAUGHTER]DO IT IN A HALF HOUR.

BUT FIRST, THE OFFICIAL RESPONSEGENERALLY TO THE PRESIDENT'S

STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH HASALWAYS BEEN A PRESTIGE SLOT FOR

POLITICIANS WHO WISH TO DESTROYTHEIR OWN PRESIDENTIAL

AMBITIONS.

[LAUGHTER]FROM RISING STAR LOUISIANA

GOVERNOR BOBBY JINDAL TO MITCHDANIELS'S DISQUALIFYING HAUNTED

HOUSE APPARITION IMPRESSIONTO MARCO RUBIO'S WHY DID I

EAT THE SILICA GEL DESICCANTI FOUND IN MY SUIT POCKET?

I'M SO THIRSTY!

IT'S CLEARLY MARKED DO NOTEAT.

NOT EVERYONE FACES SUCHIMMEDIATE DESTRUCTION.

VIRGINIA GOVERNOR BOBMCDONNELL'S STATE OF THE UNION

REBUTTAL WAS WELL RECEIVED ANDWELL DELIVERED, BUT DON'T THINK

THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO ESCAPETHE CURSE.

[MANIACAL LAUGHING]>> THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF

VIRGINIA AND HIS WIFE ON TRIALFOR CORRUPTION.

>> FOR INFLUENCE PEDDLING.

EXCHANGING $165,000 INGIFTS FOR POLITICAL FAVORS.

>> Jon: THAT'S RIGHT.

VIRGINIA IS FOR LOVERS OF MONEY.

BUT YOU KNOW COLD HARD CASHCAN'T HOLD YOU AT NIGHT, AND

A BLANK CHECK CAN'T WIPE AWAYYOUR TEARS.

YOU CAN'T LAY A SACAGAWEA COINON A BED OF ROSE PEDALS AND

SOFTLY -- I'M SORRY.

I'M WORKING ON OUR ROMANCENOVEL.

IT'S IN THE SUBGENRE OF THEPARANORMAL SUBGENRE OF THE TEEN

ROMANCE NOVEL SUBGENRE.

THE FEDS SAY MCDONNELL AND HISWIFE WERE SHOWERED WITH GIFTS

FROM MILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMANJOHNNIE WILLIAMS IN EXCHANGE FOR

SPECIAL TREATMENT.

BUT THAT'S JUST ONE SIDE OF THESTORY.

WHAT DOES MILLIONAIREBUSINESSMAN JOHNNIE WILLIAMS

SAY?

>> WILLIAMS SAYS HE SHOWEREDFORMER VIRGINIA GOVERNOR BOB

MCDONNELL AND HIS WIFE WITHGIFTS IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR HELP

PROMOTING THE TOBACCO-BASED PILLHE'D INVENTED AND WAS PITCHING

AS A WONDER DRUG OF SORTS.

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: I GUESS THERE IS ONLY

ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. BY THEWAY, THE WONDER DRUG THAT HE

WAS PITCHING IS CALLEDANATABOLIC OR ANTABLOC.

I'M SORRY. AND YOUMAY BE WONDERING HOW SOMEONE

COULD TURN A TOBACCO-BASED PILL

INTO A WONDER DRUG, BECAUSETHAT'S WHAT IT IS, SEEING AS

MOST TOBACCO-BASED THINGS ARE,ARE WONDER CARCINOGENS.

YOU'RE GOING TO KICK YOURSELFFOR NOT THINKING OF THIS FIRST.

HE NUKED THE TOBACCO IN 200WAL-MART MICROWAVES.

[LAUGHTER]TIRED OF FEELING BAD?

TRY SOME OF OUR HIGHLYIRRADIATED CIGARETTE PILLS.

[LAUGHTER]APPARENTLY IT TURNS OUT WHEN YOU

PUT TWO TERRIBLE THINGSTOGETHER, IT MAKES SOMETHING

GREAT.

GONORRHEA IS TERRIBLE, BUT WHENYOU MIX IT IN A CROCK POT WITH

DOG VOMIT, IT TRANSFORMS INTO AHEALTHY PART OF ANY CHILD'S

BREAKFAST.

MMM.

MMM.

[LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE]THAT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE COUNT

DRIPULA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE GOVERNOR AND HIS WIFEACCEPTED A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND

DOLLARS WORTH OF GIFTS.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF THEYACTUALLY TRIED TO PROMOTE THIS

CRAZY DRUG.

>> THE GOVERNOR SET UP MEETINGSFOR MR. WILLIAMS WITH TOP STATE

OFFICIALS.

THE GOVERNOR AND FIRST LADYHOSTED AN EVENT AT THE

GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

ALSO APPEARED TO SHOW SOMEINTEREST IN ENCOURAGING PUBLIC

UNIVERSITIES TO CONDUCT CLINICALSTUDIES OF A CHEMICAL FOUND IN

THE SUPPLEMENT.

>> Jon: AND, OF COURSE,GOVERNOR MCDONNELL PERSONALLY

PUSHED THROUGH THE BILL CHANGINGVIRGINIA'S STATE FOOD TO

MARLBORO HOT POCKETS.

SOME SOLID EXAMPLES OF ANAPPARENT QUID PRO QUO.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING WEIRDER?

>> ON THE SAME DAY MCDONNELLENDORSED MITT ROMNEY FOR

PRESIDENT, MAUREEN McDONNELLALLEGEDLY PITCHED ROMNEY'S WIFE

ANN, CLAIMING WILLIAM'SPRODUCT COULD POTENTIALLY

CURE HER MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS.

[AUDIENCE REACTS]>> Jon: K, THAT... THAT'S

[BLEEPED] UP.

HOW DO THOSE TWO LIVE WITHTHEMSELVES?

WELL, I GUESS IT'S EASY THANKSTO FORGETULEX, FROM THE MAKERS

OF ANTABLOC, THE HERBALSUPPLEMENT GUARANTEED TO WIPE

OUT THE MEMORY OF A TIME YOUTRIVIALIZED A WOMAN'S

DIBILITATING AND INCURABLEDISEASE SO THAT A WHACKED OUT

SUPPLEMENT HUCKSTER WOULD BUYYOU A WATCH.

FORGETULEX, IT'S MADE OF CRUSHEDUP HEROIN NEEDLES AND BEDBUGS.

SO THIS SEEMS LIKE ANOPEN-AND-SHUT AWFUL THING.

WHAT DO THE MCDONNELLS HAVE TOSAY IN THEIR DEFENSE?

>> ATTORNEYS FOR THEMCDONNELLS SAY THE COUPLE IS

INNOCENT.

THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE BEENCONSPIRING TO ABUSE THE OFFICE

BECAUSE THEIR MARRIAGE HADBROKEN DOWN AND THEY WERE BARELY

ON SPEAKING TERMS.

>> Jon: WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TOBE HAPPILY MARRIED TO BE

CORRUPT, ALTHOUGH IT HELPS,LIKE INFAMOUSLY CORRUPT ITALIAN

PM SILVIO BERLUSCONIAND HIS WIFE OF 20 YEARS,

A LADY-SHAPED PILE OFCOCAINE AND GOLD.

OH, OH, THAT'S SOME GOOD BUNGABUNGA.

WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THATMCDONNELL'S MARRIAGE WAS EVEN

SOUR?

>> DEFENSE ATTORNEYS SAY THESTATE'S FIRST LADY HAD A CRUSH

ON JOHNNIE WILLIAMS.

>> JURORS SAW 1,200 PHONE CALLSAND TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN

MAUREEN AND WILLIAMS.

ON THE DAY OF THE 2011VIRGINIA EARTHQUAKE, SHE TEXTED

HIM, "I JUST FELT THE EARTHMOVE, AND I WASN'T HAVING SEX."

>> Jon: ALL CAPITALS.

SO WAS THE FIRST LADY OFVIRGINIA HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH

BUSINESSMAN JOHNNIE WILLIAMS?

>> JOHNNIE WILLIAMS SAIDTHAT THERE WAS NO ROMANTIC

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HIMAND MAUREEN MCDONNELL.

HE SAID, "I DIDN'T KNOW SHEEVEN HAD ANY INTEREST IN ME

UNTIL THIS PAST WEEK."

>> Jon: WHAT, ARE THEY IN[BLEEPED] FOURTH GRADE?

WHAT IS THIS?

WILLIAMS DIDN'T PICK UP ON THESIGNALS, I GUESS BECAUSE HE'S A

CRAZY-EYED INVENTOR, GOT HISHEAD FILLED WITH SO MANY IDEAS

DOESN'T KNOW WHEN THE LADIES ARETRYING TO HIT HIM UP.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU LIKED ME.

I WAS JUST THINKING IF I PUT MYFARTS INTO A GEORGE FOREMAN

GRILL, MAYBE I CAN CURE LUPUS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M AN INVENTOR!

[LAUGHTER]PLEASE DON'T TRY DOING THAT AT

HOME.

[LAUGHTER]WHY WOULD MRS. MCDONNELL LIE

ABOUT THIS?

>> MAUREEN MCDONNELL'S CHIEFOF STAFF TOLD F.B.I.

INVESTIGATORS MAUREENMCDONNELL WAS "A NUT BAG."

[LAUGHTER]>> Jon: SOMEONE'S NOT GETTING

A REFERENCE LETTER.

HERE'S WHAT I REALLY DON'TUNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT, WHY IS

"NUT BAG" A TERM FOR CRAZY?

YOU GOT TO CARRY YOUR NUTS INSOMETHING, AND A BAG SEEMS AS

SENSIBLE A CONVEYANCE OBJECT ASANYTHING. YOU KNOW WHAT

WOULD BE CRAZY? EATING NUTSOUT OF A DIAPER, BUT YOU DON'T

HEAR PEOPLE SAYING ABOUT CRAZYPEOPLE, THAT GUY'S NUT DIAPER.

APPARENTLY I'M ALONE.

EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE ISLIKE, I EAT NUTS OUT OF A

DIAPER.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITHTHAT.

THE POINT IS THIS: CLEARLY THEREAL VICTIM HERE IS BOB

McDONNELL BECAUSE IF THERE'SONE THING HE CARES ABOUT IS

FAMILY VALUES.

>> 34-YEAR-OLD McDONNELL WROTEHIS MASTERS THESIS ON FAMILY

VALUES.

HE SUGGESTED WORKING WOMEN ANDFEMINISTS WERE "DETRIMENTAL TO

THE FAMILY."

>> WE BELIEVE IN THE SANCTITY OFLIFE AND FAMILY AND MARRIAGE.

I THINK THESE ISSUES OF LIFE ANDFAMILY AND MARRIAGE KIND

OF DEFINE WHO YOU ARE ASA PEOPLE.

>> Jon: WOW, SO I GUESS BY YOUROWN DEFINITION YOU'RE A TERRIBLE

PERSON.

DON'T WORRY, THERE'S A CURE,LESSADOUCHE.

[LAUGHTER]IF YOU FIND YOURSELF DENOUNCING

YOUR OWN MARRIAGE IN AN ATTEMPTTO ESCAPE THE MASSIVE CORRUPTION

CHARGES FILED AGAINST YOU, YOUMAY HAVE NATURAL ETHICS

DEFICIENCY.

TREATED WITH LESSADOUCHE,IT'S MADE WITH ASBESTOS AND YOUR

PARENTS' DIVORCE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: WELCOME BACK TO THE

SHOW.

SUMMER 2014.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS,TIME TO CHECK IN ON THE 2016

PRESIDENTIAL RACE, SPECIFICALLYKENTUCKY SENATOR AND PROSPECTIVE

G.O.P. CANDIDATE RANDFORDJ. PAUL, THE SUBJECT OF

TONIGHT'S DEMOCALYPSE 2016: COIFTO THE RACES EDITION.

>> RAND PAUL LAUNCHES A 10-STOPTOUR OF IOWA TODAY.

>> IT IS HIS 10TH VISIT TO THESTATE THIS ELECTION CYCLE.

>> WHICH HAS PROMPTED MANY TOWONDER IF HE'S CONSIDERING A BID

FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

>> Jon: WHAT? NO. IT COULD BE...NO, MAYBE HE LOVES IOWA.

HE'S GOT A THING FOR STRAWBERRYPOINT, IOWA'S WORLD'S LARGEST

STRAWBERRY. WHICH IS ACTUALLYNOT A REAL STRAWBERRY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAD AREAL 15-FOOT STRAWBERRY

OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHATIMPRESSIVE.

IT'S A REALLY 15-FOOT FIBERGLASSSCULPTURE. AND I MEAN,

WE DON'T ADVERTISE THE STATUE OFLIBERTY AS THE WORLD'S LARGEST

LADY.

TRUTH IS ELLERBE, NORTHCAROLINA HAS A LARGER FAKE

STRAWBERRY, SO I JUST, YOUKNOW... NO. NO.

I DON'T THINK... I DON'TTHINK I... I WAS NOT... I WAS

POKING GENTLE FUN. THAT'SSOMEWHAT BETTER. THAT IS...

THAT IS MORE FRUIT APPROPRIATE,BUT STILL SOMEWHAT HYPERBOLIC.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT IS SENATOR PAUL UP FOR THECHALLENGES OF A PRESIDENTIAL

PRIMARY?

IT'S A ROUTINE TO THE HIGH LEVELOF DIFFICULTY, ESPECIALLY FOR A

CANDIDATE WHO HAS SOME UNPOPULARPOSITIONS.

>> RAND PAUL WAS ASKED AQUESTION, SOMEONE GETS A LITTLE

UPSET WITH HIM, SAYING HEY,YOU'VE PROPOSED TO CUT OFF U.S.

AID TO ISRAEL. RAND PAULSAYS, NO I DIDN'T.

>> I HAVEN'T REALLY PROPOSEDTHAT IN THE PAST.

WE'VE NEVER HAD A LEGISLATIVEPROPOSAL TO DO THAT.

>> Jon: GEEZ, IF YOU NEVERPROPOSED CUTTING OFF U.S. AID TO

ISRAEL, THAT'S WEIRD.

I'M NOT SURE WHY HE WAS ASKEDABOUT IT.

OH, WHAT'S THAT?

OH ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TENYEARS WORTH OF FOREIGN AID,

ISRAEL GETS JUST SLIGHTLY MORETHAN JORDAN AND EGYPT GET

TOGETHER.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOODIDEA, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE

TO BORROW THE MONEY FROM CHINA.SHOULD WE BE GIVING MONEY,

FREE MONEY OR WELFARE TO A RICHNATION?

>> Jon: THAT IS WHY YOU NEVERMAKE EYE CONTACT ON THE SUBWAY.

[LAUGHTER]BECAUSE SOME CRAZY-HAIRED DUDE

IS JUST GOING TO DRAW YOU INTOAN AWKWARD CONVERSATION ABOUT

THE MIDDLE EAST.

AND YOU DON'T WANT NONE OF THAT.

BUT, ALL I HEARD THERE WASSOMEBODY RAISING QUESTIONS,

INDULGING IN HYPOTHETICALS.

HE NEVER PRECISELY SAID END ALLFOREIGN AID TO ISRAEL.

>> ALRIGHT, SO JUST TO BEPRECISE, END ALL FOREIGN AID,

INCLUDING THE FOREIGN AID TOISRAEL AS WELL, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES.

[LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE]>> Jon: THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE

A MARK.

SO HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO ENDTHE AID, BUT HE NEVER PUT IT IN

A LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL, EXCEPTFOR HIS 2012 BUDGET PROPOSAL,

AND REALLY THAT BUDGET PROPOSALDOESN'T COUNT ANYWAY.

>> I HAVE NEVER INTRODUCED ANYLEGISLATION THAT TARGETED ISRAEL

IN ANY WAY.

>> Jon: DIDN'T EVER TARGET IT.

ISRAEL WAS COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

IN RAND PAUL'S INDISCRIMINATETARGETING OF FOREIGN AID IN

GENERAL.

I GOT TO SAY, SENATOR, ALL THISFUMBLING AROUND DOESN'T MAKE YOU

LOOK GOOD.

NOW YOU TOOK A POSITION.

YOU SHOULD STAND BY IT.

STICK THE LANDING HERE TO SHOWUS YOU'VE GOT THE INTEGRITY.

SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING TOPERSUADE US THAT YOU ARE, LIKE

YOUR POP, PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.

>> YOU WANT TO ACCURATELYPORTRAY MY POSITION?

>> Jon: YES.

THAT IS WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE IFYOU CAN ACCURATELY PORTRAY YOUR

POSITION WE CAN JUST TAKE THOSERAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT BUMPER

STICKERS AND JUST LIKE DRAW ALINE ON THE O AND ADD A D AND WE

DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANYMORE MONEY TO SUPPORT YOU.

WE WANT TO BE ACCURATE.

>> YOU WANT TO WRITE AN ARTICLETHAT I'VE SPENT THE LAST FOUR

YEARS TRYING TO PUT CONDITIONSON AID TO PEOPLE WHO HATE US AND

BURN OUR FLAG.

>> Jon: I LIKE WHERE WE'REGOING WITH THIS.

I ALSO HATE PEOPLE WHO HATE USAND BURN OUR FLAG.

>> THEN IT WOULD BE AN ACCURATESTORY. AND YOU CAN PUT AS A

SIDELINE IN THERE THAT I'VEALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT EVERY

COUNTRY ULTIMATELY WOULD BEBETTER OFF TO BE INDEPENDENT.

>> Jon: BOOM!

AND YOU COULD ILLUSTRATE THATARTICLE WITH A PHOTO OF MY HEAD

ON HUGH JACKMAN'S BODY STANDINGIN THE OVAL OFFICE.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. NEXTPRESIDENT, YOU'VE DONE IT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT, A FILMMAKER.

HER DOCUMENTARY IS CALLED "RICHHILL."

>> DEAR MOM.

I'VE BEEN OUT OF SCHOOL AMONTH.

I BROKE MY NECK.

JUST KIDDING.

THE PRINCIPAL SAID THAT I AIN'TGETTING ANY CREDITS FOR THIS

SEMESTER, SO THEY UNENROLLED ME.

NO I DON'T HAVE AGIRLFRIEND YET.

BIG CAPITAL LETTERS.

LOVE YOU, FROM HARLEY.

>> Jon: PLEASE WELCOME TRACYDROZ TRAGOS.

HOW ARE YOU?

NICE TO SEE YOU. COME.

>> Jon: THANK YOU VERY MUCHFOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Jon: PLEASE, THIS FILM"RICH HILL" IS BEAUTIFUL AND

HEARTBREAKING AND HARD TO WATCH,BUT IMPORTANT TO WATCH.

WHAT... TELL US THE PROJECT.

>> WELL, IT'S A FILM ABOUT THREEKIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN

SOUTHWEST RURAL MISSOURI, A TOWNNAMED RICH HILL, WHICH IS MY

FAMILY HOMETOWN.

>> Jon: OH, YOU'RE FROM THERE?

>> IT'S WHERE MY FATHER GREW UPAND IT'S WHERE I SPENT EVERY

SUMMER AND WINTER BREAK AS AKID.

MY FATHER WAS KILLED IN VIETNAMWHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, AND MY

GRANDPARENTS, WHO LIVED THERE,WERE LIKE SURROGATE PARENTS TO

ME.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> SO WE WANTED TO GO BACK. IDIRECTED THIS WITH MY COUSIN.

>> Jon: RIGHT.>> WHO IS A CINEMATOGRAPHER.

AND WE WANTED TO GO BACK ANDUNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR

THE FAMILIES THAT WERESTRUGGLING THERE IN THE HOUSES

WITH THE TARPS FOR ROOFS AND,YOU KNOW, THE BROKEN WINDOWS

AND...

>> Jon: AND THIS IS A TOWNTHAT'S BEEN STRUGGLING SINCE

REALLY WORLD WAR II,SINCE THE COLD WAR.

>> YEAH IT WAS RICH HILL FORCOAL.

>> Jon: YEAH.>> AND THEN THE COAL WENT DRY.

AND THERE WAS VERY LITTLEINDUSTRY.

>> Jon: RIGHT.>> SO...

>> Jon: TOUGH. BUT IT GIVES ALOOK INTO A POVERTY THAT PEOPLE

DON'T THINK ABOUT AS MUCH.

>> YEAH, YEAH, OR DON'T THINKABOUT IN A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY.

I MEAN, WE REALLY WANTED TO TELLAN INTIMATE, EMOTIONAL, UP-CLOSE

STORY. WE DIDN'T,YOU KNOW, WE WANTED

TO TELL THE HUMAN STORY BEHINDTHE STATISTICS, AND

SOMETIMES THESE FAMILIES GET,YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT SEE THEM

IN LIKE "HONEY BOO BOO" OR "DUCKDYNASTY."

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF AREALITY TV IN AND OUT.

>> Jon: YES. THIS IS NOCARICATURE OF ANYTHING.

>> NO. WE REALLYGAVE THESE KIDS AND

THEIR FAMILIES KIND OFAUTHORSHIP...

>> Jon: RIGHT.>> AND KIND OF GOT OUT OF

THE WAY AND LET THEM TELL THEIRSTORY.

>> Jon: THEY'RE WILDLY OPEN,WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ESPECIALLY

FOR THREE TEENAGE BOYS, ONES WHOALSO HAVE... I MEAN, THERE

ARE SOME VERY DIFFICULT THINGSTHAT THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: AND THEY ARE WILDLYAVAILABLE FOR THAT.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, THE TRUST WASKIND OF AMAZING.

AND THEY TRUSTED US.

I HOPE WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TOVIOLATE THAT TRUST IN THE END,

BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WASBECAUSE MY GRANDPARENTS WERE

WELL-KNOWN IN TOWN...>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A THIRDGRADE SCHOOL TEACH THAT

EVERYBODY LOVED, SO THAT WASKIND OF A GOOD CREDENTIAL FOR

US.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IDON'T, I THINK ULTIMATELY THERE

WAS A FEELING OF THEM WANTINGTO TELL THEIR STORY AND

WANTING TO BE HEARD...>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND THEY WERE INTERESTED THATANYBODY CARED AT ALL, YOU KNOW,

THAT ANYBODY WAS KNOCKING ONTHEIR DOOR.

>> Jon: RIGHT. YEAH,I THOUGHT, I MEAN,

FOR YOU TO PUT A HUMANFACE ON THIS WAS REALLY VERY

UPSETTING TO ME.

I REALLY PREFER NOT TO THINKABOUT IT.

[LAUGHTER]SO, DAMN YOU DROZ TRAGOS.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'SINTERESTING TO ME, SO WE HAVE

THIS IMAGE. YOU KNOW, THERE IS ACERTAIN POPULATION IN

THIS COUNTRY THAT BELIEVES THATPOVERTY IS LACK OF VIRTUE.

>> YEAH. >> Jon: AND HERE YOU

HAVE JUST LAID OUT THE HUMANITYOF THESE KIDS GOING

THROUGH THEIR STRUGGLES, THEDIFFICULTY THEY HAVE IN CLAIMING

THEIR VIRTUE AND IN JUST TRYINGTO GET BY, AND YOU CANNOT HELP

BUT THINK WE ARE SADDLING AGENERATION WITH JUST BAGGAGE

THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TOBE SISYPHUS TO GET OUT OF THAT.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WASSO IMPRESSED WITH THE RESILIENCE

OF THESE KIDS.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANDREW, ONEOF THE BOYS, HE'S SO

FRICKEN OPTIMISTIC.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND YET HE HAS SO MANYCHALLENGES. AND, YOU KNOW,

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOINGTO REALIZE HIS DREAMS.

I REALLY HOPE SO, I REALLYBELIEVE IN THIS KID.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HISHARD WORK IS SIMPLY NOT GOING

TO BE ENOUGH. HE HAS SO MANYCHALLENGES IN HIS LIFE.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND THAT'S THE THING I HOPEIN SOME WAYS THIS FILM WILL

KIND OF SHIFT THE CONVERSATIONAROUND, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT

IT'S JUST FOLKS ARE LAZYOR IT'S THEIR CHOICE...

>> Jon: RIGHT.>> IF THEY FIND THEMSELVES...

>> Jon: RIGHT.>> YOU KNOW...

>> Jon: I WOULD LIKE ANYBODYTO WALK A MILE IN THESE KIDS'

SHOES...>> YEAH.

>> Jon: AND SEE HOW WELL YOU CANDO. AND WHAT

I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING IS SOTHE CONGRESSWOMAN IN

THOSE KIDS' DISTRICT VOTED TOCUT SNAP FUNDING, WHICH I

THOUGHT WAS STUNNING.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: AND I DON'T, I DON'TKNOW HOW YOU ARE ABLE TO SLEEP

WITH THAT DECISION.

IT'S, IT'S MIND BLOWING.

>> NO WHEN YOU'RE IN THESEHOMES AND YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE

REALLY, I MEAN, THEY'RERATIONING FOOD AND WHEN

IT COMES TO THAT...

>> Jon: AND WATER AND HEATINGIT UP TO BATHE, I MEAN IT'S...

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Jon: IT'S INTENSE.

>> YEAH. YEAH. IT IS, IT ISINTENSE.

AND IT'S ALSO NOT WITHOUT HOPE.

I MEAN, I THINK SOME OF THESETHINGS...

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> THE PROBLEM IS COMPLEX, BUTTHERE ARE SOLUTIONS, RIGHT?

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS THATWE CAN DO TO LIFT UP FAMILIES

WHO HAVE HIT A BUMP IN THE ROAD.

>> Jon: I THOUGHT THE HOPE ISIN THOSE KIDS' RESILIENCE.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THECHALLENGES AHEAD, BUT YOU ALSO

SEE LIKE, SOMEBODY BUYSINTO THIS KID, SOMEBODY

GIVES A LITTLE BITOF ATTENTION, LIKE THAT'S GOING

TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE.

>> YEAH, YEAH, BUT ALSO, YOUKNOW, THINK ABOUT ALL THE KIDS

THAT DON'T HAVE FILMSMADE ABOUT THEM AND WE

HOPE THAT THERE ISSOME AWARENESS...

>> Jon: WAIT IS THAT YOURPROPOSAL NOW?

WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND MAKE FILMSABOUT EVERY ONE OF THESE KIDS?

>> YEAH.>> Jon: YOU KNOW WHAT I THOUGHT

IS INTERESTING TOO IS THAT,YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO

THERE'S URBAN POVERTY ANDRURAL POVERTY AND SOMEHOW

THEY ARE THIS DISTINCTFUNCTION. BUT THEY'RE NOT.

BUT THE DIFFICULTY OF SERVICESFOR THE MORE RURAL KIDS STRUCK

ME, THAT IT'S DIFFICULTTO GAIN SERVICES.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S ADISTINCT STING TO RURAL POVERTY,

WHICH IS YOUR ISOLATION.>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> AND YOU KNOW, YOUR CAR BREAKSDOWN, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

MONEY FOR GAS, YOU'REREALLY STUCK.

>> Jon: RIGHT. >> AND YOU KNOW, IN

RICH HILL THEY'RE JUST NOWGETTING, YOU KNOW, 911.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT EVEN THOSEKINDS OF SERVICES.

IT WOULD BE A VOLUNTEER FIREDEPARTMENT THAT WOULD RESPOND TO

CALLING THEM DIRECTLY.

>> Jon: RIGHT. IT'S AMAZING.

IT'S AN AMAZING PROJECT.

AND I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU WEREABLE TO BRING IT TO EVERYBODY.

AND I RECOMMEND IT.

"RICH HILL" IT'S AVAILABLE ONITUNES, AMAZON, VIDEO ON

DEMAND. IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE INTHEATERS, YES?

>> IT'S IN THEATERS RIGHT NOW.

>> Jon: IT'S IN THEATERS RIGHTNOW AND IT'S GOING TO OPEN IN

MORE CITIES THROUGHOUT AUGUST IFPEOPLE GO SEE IT.

SO, I RECOMMEND YOU DO IT.

TRACY DROZ TRAGOS, THANK YOU SOMUCH.

>> Jon: HEY, THAT IS OUR SHOW.

MAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FORJOINING US.

WE'RE OFF HERE ON ANOTHER COUPLEOF FUN TIMES THERE LIKE WE DO

EVERY, LET'S SAY WEEK AND AHALF.

AND HERE IT IS, YOUR MOMENT OFZEN.

>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.

GOOD, THIS MEANS I WON'T GETLOST IN THE TUNNEL.

I'M ON THE SUBWAY, I'M GOING INTHE RIGHT TRACK.

>> YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

YOU WON'T GO OFF THE RAILS.

SPEAKING OF GOING OFF THERAILS...

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