September 20, 2011 - Ron Suskind

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Jason Jones reports on the end of "don't ask, don't tell"; Wyatt Cenac examines America's loss of UFOs to China; and Ron Suskind evaluates Barack Obama's confidence.

>> Jon: HEY!

WELCOME TO "THE DAILY SHOW"!

OH, MY NAME IS JON STEWART!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING

US.

OUR GUEST TONIGHT RON SUSKIND.

HE IS THE...

(APPLAUSE)

WHOO!

AUTHOR FAN!

HE'S THE AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK ON

HOW TO LOSE WEIGHT ON AN

ALL-CITRUS DIET.

(LAUGHTER)

I'M SORRY, THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK

ABOUT THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE AND

THE FINANCIAL CRISIS AND HOW

THAT GUY (BLEEP)ED EVERYTHING

UP.

ALL RIGHT.

(LAUGHTER)

WELL, THEY WANT TO CONGRATULATE

THE STAFF OF THE SHOW ON WINNING

THE EMMY.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

THEY WORKED SO HARD AND WERE

HONORED AND WE'RE DELIGHTED...

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND I THINK IT'S... IF YOU JUST

WIN ONE MORE, JUST ONE.

(LAUGHTER)

WE MIGHT BEGIN

ANYWAY, LET'S BEGIN THE NIGHT

WITH NEWS FROM THE MILITARY.

IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS SHOW

FROM A MILITARY BASE AND YOU'VE

NOTICED THAT YOUR FELLOW

SOLDIERS SEEM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN

2% TO 10% HAPPIER TODAY--

(LAUGHTER)

-- THE FIGURES ARE VERY HARD TO

GET.

THERE'S A REASON.

>> THE POLICY THAT BANNED GAYS

FROM SERVING OPENLY IN THE

MILITARY IS NOW HISTORY.

>> FROM NOW ON, GAYS CAN SERVE

OPENLY IN THE MILITARY.

>> AND THE 13,000 WHO WERE

DISCHARGED UNDER "DON'T ASK,

DON'T TELL" CAN REENLIST.

>> Jon: THAT'S HOW RIDICULOUS

THIS POLICY WAS.

THE APOLOGY FOR THE AFFRONT IS

"ALL RIGHT, SORRY, YOU CAN GO TO

AFGHANISTAN AND FIGHT FOR YOUR

COUNTRY."

(LAUGHTER)

BY THE WAY... I KNOW.

THEY'RE LUCKY IT WAS GAY PEOPLE

THAT THEY DISCHARGED FROM THE

ARMY.

ONLY GAY PEOPLE WOULD REMAIN IN

GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE TO BE ABLE TO

REENLIST.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

FOR MORE ON THE END OF "DON'T

ASK, DON'T TELL," WE GO TO JASON

JONES INSIDE CAMP D.W.I.ER IN

HELMAND PROVINCE, AFGHANISTAN.

JASON, WHAT'S THE SITUATION OVER

THERE?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> JON, THE NIGHTMARE IS REAL!

THE REPEAL OF "DON'T ASK, DON'T

TELL" HAS TURNED OUR ONCE-PROUD

ARMED FORCES INTO A CAMOUFLAGED

THONG PAN-SEXUAL BACCHANAL.

THIS ISN'T AN ARMY OF ONE, IT'S

AN ARMY OF FUN!

WHOO!

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WOW, THAT'S QUITE A GET

WILL HAVE UP.

WOW.

THANK GOD YOU'RE ON SATELLITE.

THAT WOULD HAVE CREATED A HUGE

STIR IF PEOPLE HAD CAUGHT A

GLIMPSE OF THAT OUTFIT.

BUT WAIT A SECOND, JASON,

SOMETHING IS NOT... WHERE ARE

ALL THE SOLDIERS?

>> THEY... UM... UM... THEY'RE

AT TRADER JOE'S!

(LAUGHTER)

GETTING VODKA AND CLEMENTINES.

WE'RE MAKING TANGERINIS!

WHOO!

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: JASON, THERE AREN'T ANY

TRADER JOE NIECE AFGHANISTAN.

>> NO.

I KNOW.

CUT THE MUSIC, THIS IS... I'M

SORRY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO

LIVEN UP THE REPORT.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: SO SOLDIERS AREN'T,

BECAUSE OF THE REPEAL OF "DON'T

ASK, DON'T TELL" WANDERING

AROUND IN CUT OFF SHORT-SHORTS.

>> NO, THESE ARE MINE.

(LAUGHTER)

ARMY REGULATIONS STILL REQUIRE

ALL SHORT-SHORTS TO BE ANKLE

LENGTH.

AND THEY'RE TO BE CALLED PANTS.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: WHAT ABOUT ALL THE HAND

WRINGING OVER THE CHANGES THAT

REPEALING "DON'T ASK, DON'T

TELL" WOULD BRING?

THE FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

WARNED THE REPEAL WOULD LEAD TO

SEXUAL ASSAULTS IN THE SHOWERS.

>> NO.

TURNS OUT REPEALING "DON'T ASK,

DON'T TELL" DOESN'T ALL OF A

SUDDEN MAKE SHOWER RAPE LEGAL.

(LAUGHTER)

IN FACT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND

ALL RAPES-- HOMOSEXUAL AND

HETEROSEXUAL-- STILL ILLEGAL.

>> Jon: HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY

CHANGES AT ALL?

>> NOT REALLY, JON.

IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE THAT WORK

IN CLOSE QUARTERS AND COUNT ON

PROTECTING EACH OTHER LIKE

FAMILY DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THE

DEAL.

IN FACT, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CALL

THE REPEAL OF DON'T CAN ASK

DON'T TELL AROUND HERE?

"NO D'UH TUESDAY."

AND GUESS WHO THE COMMANDING

OFFICER WAS WHO BROKE THE NEWS

TO THEM?

>> Jon: WHO?

>> CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

>> I MEAN, JON, IT WAS THE ARMY

WHO INVENTED GAYDAR IN THE '06s.

>> Jon: SO THE BIG STORY ABOUT

REPEALING "DON'T ASK, DON'T

TELL" IS THAT THERE IS NO STORY?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, JON.

IT HASN'T MADE ANY DIFFERENCES

IN THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR

FIGHTING FORCES.

TURNS OUT HONORABLE MILITARY

6-SERVICE IS SOMETHING EVERYBODY

CAN SHARE.

>> Jon:.

>> Jon: DO YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE

AFTER LOVE... ♪

>> Jon: NO, NOT CHER!

GOOD LUCK OUT THERE, JASON.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT

HE

(LAUGHTER)

THE END OF THE POLICY OF "DON'T

ASK, DON'T TELL," OF COURSE, DID

PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK

BACK AT EXACTLY HOW FAR THE

MILITARY HAD COME ON THE ISSUE

OF GAY SOLDIERS.

>> IT BEGINS IN 1950 WHEN

PRESIDENT HARRY TRUMAN SIGNS

INTO LAW THE UNIFORM CODE OF

MILITARY JUSTICE MAKING SODOMY

ITSELF A CRIME.

>> Jon: OH, YES!

HARRY TRUMAN'S FAMOUS POLICY OF

THE (BLEEP) STOPPED HERE.

(LAUGHTER)

>> YEARS LATER UNDER PRESIDENT

RONALD REAGAN THE PENTAGON

ISSUES A DIRECTIVE STATING THAT

HOMOSEXUALITY IS INCOMPATIBLE

WITH MILITARY SERVICE.

>> Jon: SO THE MILITARY NEEDS

DISCIPLINED WELL-GROOMED

INDIVIDUALS COMFORTABLE IN

CRISPLY PRESSED COLORFUL

UNIFORMS.

NO PLACE FOR GAYS!

(LAUGHTER)

TELL 'EM, BOYS.

♪ THE PEOPLE RIDE IN A HOLE IN

THE GROUND, NEW YORK, NEW

YORK... ♪

>> Jon: GO OUT THERE AND ENJOY

SOME VAGINA.

(LAUGHTER)

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE WAS

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL."

>> IN 1993, A COMPROMISE

EMERGES.

>> THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF

HAVE AGREED TO REMOVE THE

QUESTION REGARDING ONE'S SEXUAL

ORIENTATION FROM FUTURE VERSIONS

OF THE ENLISTMENT APPLICATION.

AND IT WILL NOT BE ASKED IN THE

INTERIM.

>> Jon: (AS BILL CLINTON)

I MEAN, IT'S NOBODY'S BUSINESS

WHERE YOU'RE STICKING IT, RIGHT?

(LAUGHTER)

I MEAN, WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE, YOU

KNOW?

>> JON.

>> Jon: (AS B.C.)

JON?

>> EMMY?

>> Jon: DID SUNDAY NIGHT MEAN

NOTHING TO YOU?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENING, IT

MEANT A LOT TO ME.

>> HERE WE ARE NOT 48 HOURS LATE

WE ARE A REHEATED CLINTON JOKE

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A STALE

LEFTOVER IN 2000.

(LAUGHTER)

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HAVE TO

SUBMIT ONE EPISODE SO IT'S NOT

LIKE...

>> I SHOULD HAVE SLEPT WITH

COLBERT WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Jon: I BEAT YOU TO THAT, TOO,

HUH?

>> YOU MONSTER!

>> Jon: OF COURSE THE REAL

CONCERN WITH REPEALING "DON'T

ASK, DON'T TELL" WAS HOW IT

WOULD ENCOURAGE IMMORALITY AND

INDECENCY AND NOT A DAY AFTER

ITS REPEAL WE ALREADY SEE THE

TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT NOW FEEL

FREE TO FLAUNT THEIR LIFE-STYLE.

>> ONE SOLDIER WHO HAD BEEN

POST-ING ANONYMOUS VIDEOS ABOUT

HIS EXPERIENCE UNDER "DON'T ASK,

DON'T TELL" CALLED HIS FATHER

JUST HOURS AFTER THE REPEAL.

>> HELLO?

>> HEY, DADDY.

>> HEY, BUD!

>> CAN I TELL YOUING?

>> YEAH.

>> WILL YOU LOVE ME REGARDLESS?

>> YES.

>> YOU'LL ALWAYS LOVE ME?

AS LONG AS I'M...

>> OF COURSE.

>> DAD, I'M GAY.

>> I STILL LOVE YOU AND I WILL

ALWAYS LOVE YOU.

I WILL ALWAYS BE PROUD OF YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANKS, DAD.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WHAT KIND OF MONSTERS--

(LAUGHTER)

-- HAVE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE?

AND HOW DO I GET MY DAD TO

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, CHINA'S

ECONOMY CONTINUES TO GROW WHILE

OURS SEEMS TO SHRINK AND FALTER.

IT'S NOT JUST OUR MANUFACTURING

JOBS THAT ARE GOING OVERSEAS.

WHY YET CENAC CENAC HAS MORE.

>> Jon:

>> EXTRATERRESTRIALS HAVE

FASCINATED MAN FOR CENTURIES AND

PERHAPS NO ONE IS MORE

FASCINATED THAN CLIFFORD CLIFF,

THE PRESIDENT OF AN ORGANIZATION

THAT MONITORS U.F.O. ACTIVITY.

>> WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO COME TO

SOME RESOLUTION AS TO WHAT THESE

OBJECTS ARE.

>> YET, SADLY, LIKE SO MANY

OTHER BUSINESSES, MUFON HAS

FALLEN ON HARD TIMES AND THE

REASON IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR.

>> WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE ARE

MORE CREDIBLE U.F.O. SIGHTINGS

COMING FROM CHINA IN THAT AREA

IN THE WORLD THAN WE ARE

RECEIVING IN THE UNITED STATES

RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU'RE SAYING CHINA IS

RUSHING US?

>> RIGHT NOW THAT SEEMS TO BE

THE STATISTICAL EVIDENCE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE U.S.

WAS A CHOICE DESTINATION FOR

ALIENS BUT THANKS TO CHINA, ALL

WE HAVE LEFT NOW IS ALF.

WHY ARE THERE MORE IN CHINA THAN

IN THE U.S.?

>> CHINA'S BECOMING MORE

ADVANCED IN SPACE.

THEY'RE WANTING TO GO TO THE

MOON AND SET UP BASES ON THE

MOON.

THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THE

U.F.O.s ARE INTERESTED IN.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE THE CHINESE ARE

GETTING THE AGE PROBLEMS THAT

AMERICANS JUST DON'T WANT.

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE

BEING PROBED THAT MUCH.

>> BUT AT THIS TIME WHEN CHINA

IS WINNING, WE'VE DECIDED TO

SHUTTER OUR SPACE PROGRAM AND

ALL NASA CAN DO IS REST ON ITS

LAURELS.

>> TODAY YOU'RE IN THE COCKPIT

OF THE SPACE SHUTTLE

"DISCOVERY."

S THAT TRULY TECHNOLOGICAL

ACHIEVEMENT OF HUMANKIND.

>> DOES ANY OF THIS CRAP BRING

ALIENS HERE?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BRINGING

ANY ANGELS TO THE PLANET, NO.

>> WELL, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN?

BECAUSE THE CHINESE, THEY ARE

LAUGHING AT US.

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT

EXACTIVELY ENGAGED IN ATTRACTING

ANY ALIENS AS PART OF NASA'S

PROGRAM.

>> YOU'VE GOT NO PLANS?

YOU'RE NASA!

>> WE'VE NOT GO NO ALIEN PLANS.

>> WHERE NASA STEPS DOWN, MUFON

STEPS UP.

>> OUR STAR TEAM ARE TRAINED

FIELD INVESTIGATORS WILL THAT

ARE ABLE TO BE DEPLOYED WITHIN

24 HOURS TO A SIGNIFICANT U.F.O.

EVENT.

USUALLY THEY'RE RETIRED BECAUSE

ALL OF OUR PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS

WYATT.

>> BUT TO PULL EVEN WITH CHINA,

MUFON CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

>> NASA'S MISSION IS TO... IT'S

REALLY FOR THE BETTER.

OF HUMANKIND.

>> BUT DO YOU HAVE A STAR TEAM?

>> NO, BUT...

>> DO YOU HAVE GEIGER COUNTERS

AND OLD PEOPLE TO USE THEM?

>> NO, WE DON'T HAVE GEIGER

COUNTERS AND OLD PEOPLE TO USE

THEM.

>> WOW.

YEAH.

I CAN SEE WHY THEY CUT YOUR

FUNDING.

NASA JUST HAD NOTHING TO OFFER.

CENAC TO BEAM UP.

CENAC OUT.

WHAT A PIECE OF (BLEEP).

(LAUGHTER)

BUT TOO GET AMERICA BACK ON

TRACK.

EVEN MUFON WOULD HAVE TO

OVERCOME A FEW OBSTACLES.

>> WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY

COMMUNE ATE.

IF WE HAD THAT ABILITY THEN WE

COULD SAY, HEY, GUYS, COME ON

DOWN, WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU.

>> FORTUNATELY, I KNEW SOMEONE

WHO COULD HELP.

>> HELLO, HUMAN.

>> HI,

>> TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADOR.

>> WE CAN DO THAT.

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE

YOU'RE FROM?

>> KWAN US THE 5.

>> NEAR PALLADES.

>> YES.

>> ARE YOU MALE OR FEMALE?

>> I AM EVERYTHING.

MY GENITALS ARE IN MY FINGERS.

WE WERE MAKING PROGRESS AND

CLIFF EVEN HAD A SURE-FIRE PLAN

TO BRING THE ALIENS BACK TO

AMERICA.

WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE TO DO TO

GET BACK ON TOP.

>> SET OFF SOME NUCLEAR BOMBS,

SEND SOME MISSILES TO SPACE.

THEY'RE READY TO GO WHEREVER WE

ARE.

>> IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

WITH THE PUSH OF A BUTTON, WE'RE

BACK.

(LAUGHTER)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

THE PULITZER PRIZE WINNING

AUTHOR, HIS NEW BOOK IS CALLED

"CONFIDENCE MEN: WALL STREET,

WASHINGTON, AND THE EDUCATION OF

A PRESIDENT."

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW

RON SUSKIND.

(APPLAUSE)

NICE TO SEE YOU.

"CONFIDENCE MEN: WALL STREET,

WASHINGTON" AND, OF COURSE, THE

EDUCATION OF A PRESIDENT.

I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THE EDUCATION

OF A PRESIDENT TO BE SOMETHING

THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAPPEN

PREVIOUS TO THEIR PRESIDENTING.

THIS REPRESENTS A VERY CREDIBLE

CASE THAT HE WAS A FRESHMAN AND

RECEIVED WHAT MAY BE PERCEIVED

AS AN ECONOMIC TEAM WEDGIE.

(LAUGHTER)

YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> WHATEVER YOU SAID, I THINK

THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.

HE ARRIVES HERE AS AN UNTESTED

LEADER IN A LOT OF WAYS.

I CALL HIM AN AMATEUR PRESIDENT.

HE IS BRILLIANT, HE IS SOMEONE

PEOPLE PAINT YEARNINGS ON, HE

RISES AT A MOMENT OF CRISIS AND

HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WHEN HE HAS

A KIND OF COLD SWEAT MOMENT WITH

OLD SEASONED HANDS-- MANY OF

THEM FROM BILL CLINTON-- AND

WHAT YOU'VE GOT IS, WELL, WHAT

WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM.

PEOPLE WILL FEEL SOME SYMPATHY

FOR HIM, ACTUALLY MAYBE A LOT OF

SYMPATHY FOR WHAT BARACK OBAMA

FACED AT THIS MOMENT BASED ON

WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE,

UNDERSTANDABLY.

AND IT'S QUITE A BATTLE THROUGH

THE TWO YEARS.

NOW OBAMA SAYS IN THE FINAL

INTERVIEW "I'VE GROWN.

YES, WHAT'S IN THE BOOK IS TRUE

BUT I'VE LEARNED HARD LESSONS

FROM THIS AND I'VE BECOME THE

PRESIDENT PEOPLE WANT AND

DESERVE."

BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING

PEOPLE JUDGE.

>> Jon: WHY DO PEOPLE TALK TO

YOU?

(LAUGHTER)

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK TO

YOU IN THIS BOOK.

>> EVERYBODY.

>> Jon: EVERYBODY GOES ON

RECORD.

DO THEY THINK IN THIS... ARE YOU

THEIR CHANCE?

ARE YOU A LIFE PRESERVER TO

THEIR REPUTATION?

DOES THE PRESIDENT... IS THE

THOUGHT THAT WE WANT TO

CHRONICLE THIS FOR HISTORICAL

PURPOSES OVERWHELM MAYBE A

PRUDENT STEP BACK?

WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS?

>> PEOPLE COME TO SOMEONE LIKE

ME AND HAVE FOR NOW... THIS IS

THE FIFTH BOOK.

FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS, BUT I

THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT A LOT OF

THEM FEEL THAT THEY WERE FRONT

SEATS IN BIG MOMENTS OF HISTORY

AND THEY SAY "I NEED TO TELL YOU

WHAT I SAW."

NOW THE ADVISORS ARE INTERESTING

AND THE BOOK IS FULL OF THEM BUT

THE REASON YOU'RE INTERESTED IN

THEM IS BECAUSE THEY GIVE YOU A

GLIMPSE OF THE MAN, THE

PRESIDENT, THE DECIDER, SO TO

SPEAK, INTO THE MAN OF THIS

MOMENT AND THIS PERIOD.

>> Jon: RIGHT.

>> NOW INTERESTINGLY WHAT YOU

FIND HERE IS OBAMA'S WRESTLING

WITH HIS ADVISORS.

>> Jon: WELL, THERE'S A...

PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT

THING IN THE BOOK FOR OBAMA IS

THE SENSE THAT HE SITS BACK AND

ALLOWS WHAT WOULD BE HIS NATURAL

INSTINCTS... YOU KNOW, YOU SAY

HE PROMOTED THE SWEDISH MODEL

AND THEY WENT "NO" AND HE WENT

"ALL RIGHT."

>> IT DOES NOT PAINT A STRONG

LEADERSHIP POSITION FOR IT.

IT'S INTERESTING, THE FIRST FEW

MONTHS OF THIS PRESIDENCY IS

CLEARLY THE CRUCIAL TIME.

HE'S GOT A 75% APPROVAL RATING,

TWO MILLION PEOPLE WERE WEEPING

ON THE MALL IN JANUARY AND YOU

CAN FEEL AND THINK I CAN DO THIS

I CAN BE THIS LARGER-THAN-LIFE

PRESIDENT AND YOU SEE HIM KIND

OF GETTING THE WIND KNOCKED OUT

OF HIM BY MARCH AND IT'S HARD TO

READ BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HIM

REACHING FOR BIG IDEAS,

ESPECIALLY RESTRUCTURING, TAKING

DOWN SOME OF THE BIG BANGS, THAT

DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND AFTER THAT YOU HAVE MORE

INCIDENTS LIKE THAT.

ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO 2010, THE

BEGINNING OF 2010 WHEN HE GETS A

MEMO, THERE'S LOTS OF MEMOS IN

THERE FROM PETE ROUSE, THE TOP

ADVISOR SAYING "LOOK, YOU NEED

TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS BUILDING

YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT."

AND THIS MEMO WAS KIND OF A

BLUEPRINT FOR MOSTLY ALL THE

STAFF, THE FIRST STAFF LEAVING

AND OBAMA AFTER THE MIDTERMS HE

SAYS TO ME I FEEL LIKE NOW I'M

KIND OF GETTING MY RHYTHM, I'M

HERE NOW.

WITH A NEW STAFF THAT CAN DO

WHAT I NEED BUT THAT'S FOR FOLKS

TO JUDGE.

>> WELL, THE DIFFICULTTY HERE IS

THE FEELING OF OPPORTUNITY

SQUANDERED.

THE HARDEST THING TO READ IN IT

IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA

AS A CAMPAIGNER AND HOW HE... HE

REALLY DID REPUDIATE HIS OWN

CAMPAIGN.

HE RAN AS A GUY WHO SAID THE

DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS HAVE

THE SAME PEOPLE AND EXPECT

DIFFERENT RESULTS.

AS SOON AS THE FINANCIAL CRISIS

HIT-- AND IT DOESN'T HIT WHILE

HE'S IN OFFICE, IT'S BEFORE-- HE

HIRES LARRY SUMMERS WHO, BY THE

WAY, I THINK BY UNANIMOUS

CONSENT IS AN AS (BLEEP).

(LAUGHTER)

LIKE I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING...

(APPLAUSE)

LIKE NORMFULLY THESE BOOKS...

AND, BY THE WAY, IT DOESN'T FEEL

LIKE A PREJUDICE THING, LIKE

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A NARRATIVE.

IT DOES FEEL FAIR-MINDED BUT,

MAN, WHEN YOU INTERVIEWED, I

THINK, HIS FAMILY AND THEY...

NO, THAT'S NOT IN THERE.

BUT...

>> WELL, HE SPEAKS SO HIGHLY OF

YOU, JON.

>> Jon: REALLY.

HE DOES?

BUT IT'S ASTONISHING TO SEE SUCH

A CLEAR PORTRAYAL OF ONE

INDIVIDUAL.

>> THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM IN

THIS MIX BUT, LARRY, LOOK, HE'S

OFTEN BEEN HIS OWN WORST ENEMY

THROUGH A LONG PERIOD ON THE

PUBLIC STAGE.

HERE HE SAYS, OF COURSE, ONE OF

THE SIGNATURE QUOTES OF THIS

PERIOD WHICH IS THE FAMOUS NOW

"HOME ALONE" QUOTE.

WE'RE HOME ALONE, THERE'S NO

ADULT IN CHARGE AND CLINTON

WOULD NEVER MAKE THESE MISTAKES.

HE SAYS THIS A LOT LEAVING

MEETINGS IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH

THE PRESIDENT.

LOTS OF PEOPLE HEAR THIS AND

THEY'RE TROUBLED BY IT, THEY SAY

IS LARRY RIGHT ABOUT THIS OR

NOT?

AND THEY WRESTLE WITH IT THROUGH

THE PERIOD OF THIS PRESIDENCY.

>> BUT YOU SAY EVERYBODY HATES

SUMMERS BUT OBAMA.

THE ONE THING YOU KEEP COMING

BACK TO IS HIS JUDGMENT

NECESSARILY ON THE PEOPLE THAT

HE HAS AROUND HIM AS ADVISORS.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE IRAQ

WAR, HE'S GOT A SITUATION HE HAS

INHERITED BUT HE IS

RESPONSIBLE... YOU CAN'T SIT

BACK AND SAY HE'S NOT

RESPONSIBLE FOR BAD ADVISE.

>> WITH LARRY THERE'S A

SEDUCTION.

OBAMA LOVES THESE HIGH I.Q. GUYS

LARRY IS THE TOP OF THE HEAT

THERE AND HE SORT OF ENDS UP IN

WHAT I CALL THE LARRY SUMMERS

DEBATE SOCIETY.

I THINK OBAMA FELT HE'D SIT

ABOVE IT AND JUDGE WHO'S THE

WINNER.

HE'S JUST ANOTHER GUY AT THE

TABLE.

LARRY SAYING I'LL GO FIRST, YOU

GO AFTER ME.

IT TROUBLES PEOPLE WHO ARE

SITTING THERE SAYING WAIT A

SECOND, IS THAT BEING

DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PRESIDENT?

EVENTUALLY YOU SEE THE

PRESIDENT'S CONFIDENCE SORT OF

BRUISED AND, FRANKLY, THAT'S WHY

CONFIDENCE MEN IS THE TITLE.

IT'S ALL ABOUT CONFIDENCE.

THE COIN OF THE REALM.

>> Jon: I SEE WHAT YOU DID

THERE!

YOU TURNED IT AROUND YOU'RE VERY

GOOD.

(LAUGHTER)

I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE MORE

THINGS, THIS WILL BE ON THE WEB.

"CONFIDENCE MEN" IS THE NAME OF

THE BOOK, RON SUSKIND.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Jon: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT AT 11:00.

HERE IT IS, YOUR MOMENT OF SZEP.

>> HE WAS DRIVING IN ONE OF THE

CARS INVOLVED IN THOSE COLLISION

THAT BOUGHT DOWN ONE OF THOSE

POWER POLES.

>> I WAS MIND MIG OWN BUSINESS

AND BAM!

IT WAS LIKE A BIG RAINBOW.

BOOM, BOOM!

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