December 5, 2011 - Ben Lowy

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Herman Cain suspends his campaign, John Oliver takes a closer look at California's political process, and Ben Lowy talks war photography.

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>> Jon: WELCOME TO THE DAILY

SHOW.

MY NAME IS JON STEWART.

WE HAVE A GOOD ONE FOR YOU

TODAY.

WAR PHOTOGRAPHER BEN LOWY WILL

BE JOINING US TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A NICE ONE.

WAR PHOTOGRAPHER BEN LOWY WILL

BE JOINING US TONIGHT.

A COURAGEOUS AND FINE

INDIVIDUAL.

AND I AM NOT.

THAT WILL BE THE GENERAL

DYNAMIC FOR TONIGHT.

LET'S BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE

BIG NEWS FROM THE WEEKEND.

ON SATURDAY PIZZA MOGUL AND

ALLEGED LADY FONDLER HERMAN

CAIN TOLD THE PRESS HE'D BE

MAKING A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

ABOUT THE FATE OF HIS

CAMPAIGN.

CAIN IS A MAN WHO BELIEVES

IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REFER TO A

FORMER SATELLITE AS UZBEKISTAN-

STAN AND HAS NEVER MET A

QUESTION HE COULDN'T ANSWER

WITH 9-9-9.

I HOST A COMEDY PROGRAM AND

DON'T LIKE WORKING HARD.

SO WE BELONG TOGETHER.

WHEN I LOOK AT HIM I DON'T SEE

A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, I

SEE...

(LAUGHING) ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET TO IT.

>> I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GIVE A

VERY ENTHUSIASTIC WELCOME TO

MY GOOD FRIEND AND

PROFESSIONAL DO-ER, MR. HERMAN

CAIN.

( APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: WHO DOES THAT?

THERE'S A HERMAN CAIN YOU

DON'T KNOW IF THEY PLANNED

THIS OR IF HE WAS LATE.

(BEEP) THEY JUST SAID MY NAME!

GAS IT.

SERIOUSLY WHO PLANS SOMETHING

LIKE THAT.

LIKE, HEY, I'VE GOT AN IDEA.

YOU INTRODUCE ME.

I WON'T BE THERE.

I'LL BE ON MY (BEEP) BUS.

I'M SURE THE CROWD IS LIKE,

THEY SAID HIS NAME AND THEN IN

THE GREAT DISTANCE WE HEARD

HIM ROAR.

THEN WE SAW IT.

HIS BUS.

>> AS OF TODAY WITH A LOT OF

PRAYER AND SOUL SEARCHING, I

AM SUSPENDING MY PRESIDENTIAL

CAMPAIGN.

(CROWD BOOING) (DAILY SHOW

CROWD CHEERING).

>> Jon: DID YOU HEAR HIS

CROWD?

HIS SUPPORTERS ARE LIKE, OH,

BOO.

OH, NO.

I MEAN THE GUY JUST WOWED YOU

WITH THAT WHOLE BUS STAGE

THING AND ALL YOU CAN MUSTER

IS LIKE, NO, DON'T.

QUIT.

HOW ABOUT A LITTLE EMOTION?

THESE ARE MY WRITERS WHEN THEY

FIRST FOUND OUT.

>> IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

THIS WAY.

>> OH, GOD.

OH, MAN.

>> (BEEP) (BEEP) (BEEP)

(BEEP).

>> Jon: THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY

HOW IT WAS.

NONE OF MY WRITERS ARE STRONG

ENOUGH TO LIFT A TELEVISION.

HERMAN CAIN SEEMED TO SENSE

THAT HIS SUPPORTERS NEEDED

SOMETHING TO LIFT THEIR

SPIRITS WHICH IS WHAT LED TO

HERMAN CAIN SAYING THE

GREATEST NINE WORDS EVER

SPOKEN BY AN AMERICAN

POLITICIAN.

>> I BELIEVE THESE WORDS CAME

FROM THE POKEMON MOVIE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: GO ON.

>> LIFE CAN BE A CHALLENGE.

LIFE CAN SEEM IMPOSSIBLE.

IT'S NEVER EASY WHEN THERE'S

SO MUCH ON THE LINE.

>> Jon: I'M GOING TO MISS HIM

SO.

OF COURSE, MR. CAIN PERFORMED

THAT ALMOST AS WELL AS ITS

ORIGINAL PERFORMER DONNA

SUMMER.

♪ LIFE CAN BE A CHALLENGE ♪♪

♪ LIFE CAN SEEM IMPOSSIBLE ♪♪

♪ IT'S NEVER EASY WHEN SO MUCH

IS ON THE LINE ♪♪

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: THAT'S RIGHT.

HERMAN CAIN'S FAREWELL ADDRESS,

WORDS OF WISDOM TO HIS

FOLLOWERS AND SUPPORTERS, THE

FINAL MOMENTS OF HIS CAMPAIGN

ARE FROM THE CLOSING CREDITS

OF THE POKEMON MOVIE.

THE THING THEY PLAY TO GET YOU

THE (BEEP) OUT OF THE THEATER.

IF I MAY QUOTE FROM TITANIC:

NEAR.

FAR.

WHEREVER YOU ARE.

MY HEART WILL GO ON.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

YOU KNOW, THIS GUY... FIRST OF

ALL

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

... I CAN'T EVEN.

FIRST OF ALL IT'S NOT EVEN THE

MOST INSPIRATIONAL QUOTE FROM

THE POKEMON MOVIE.

MEWTWO:.

>> I SEE THAT THE THE

CIRCUMSTANCES OF ONE'S BIRTH

ARE IRRELEVANT.

IT IS WHAT YOU DO WITH THE

GIFT OF LIFE THAT DETERMINES

WHO YOU ARE.

>> Jon: WELL SAID MAGIC

JAPANESE CAT MONSTER WHO WAS

CREATED AS THE RESULT OF A

GENETIC EXPERIMENT AND

THEREFORE HAS PSYCHIC POWERS.

WELL SAID.

OF COURSE, CONSIDERING WHAT

LED CAIN TO DROP OUT OF THE

RACE, THIS IS THE POKEMON 2000

LINE HE REALLY SHOULD HAVE

QUOTED.

>> I COULD USE PANTS.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: TO BE FAIR TO HERMAN

CAIN, WE CAN'T ALL BE AS WISE

AS SLOWKING WHEN HE'S WEARING

THE SHELLDER OF KNOWLEDGE.

LOOK IT UP.

SHELLDER OF KNOWLEDGE.

WHERE IS DOES THAT LEAVE THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY?

YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT.

>> I'M GOING TO BE THE

NOMINEE.

I MEAN IT'S VERY HARD NOT TO

LOOK AT THE RECENT POLLS AND

THINK THAT THE ODDS ARE VERY

HIGH I'M GOING TO BE THE

NOMINEE.

>> Jon: WHAT?

WHAT IS SO CRAZY?

REPUBLICANES ARE UP NEWT CREEK

WITHOUT A PADDLE.

WHY WILL NEWT BE THE NOMINEE?

>> THOSE GUYS WERE THE NEW KID

ON THE BLOCK AND ISN'T THIS

WONDERFUL AND BOY IT WOULD BE

GREAT IF IT WORKED OUT AND WE

DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

THEM.

I'M THE GUY WHO HAS BEEN

AROUND FOREVER.

>> Jon: THAT'S NEWT GINGRICH'S

PITCH.

I'M THE THING THAT HAS BEEN IN

YOUR PANTRY FOREVER.

YOU COULD TRY YOUR NEW FANGLED

POP TARTS AND YOUR EGGO

WAFFLES BUT IF YOU LOOK WAY

BACK IN THERE, THERE'S A CAN

OF LaCHOY BABY CORN, A PRODUCT

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT STILL BE

OFFERED BY THE LaCHOY COMPANY.

YOU DON'T REMEMBER BUYING IT

YET YOU DON'T REMEMBER EVER

BEING WITHOUT IT.

AND NOW, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE

BUT TO ELECT IT PRESIDENT.

I'M NEWT GINGRICH AND I

APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

OH, THE HOLIDAY SEASON, 'TIS

THE SEASON.

THE HOLIDAYS ARE UPON US WHICH

MEANS WE HEAR AT THE DAILY

SHOW TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE

NEEDIEST AMONG US: GIANT ON-LINE

RETAILERS.

THEY'RE SUFFERING AND NOWHERE

IS THE SITUATION MORE HEART

BREAKING THAN IN CALIFORNIA.

JOHN OLIVER HAS MORE.

>> Reporter: CALIFORNIA IS IN

TROUBLE.

THEY'RE FACING A FINANCIAL

ARMAGEDDON.

AND IT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF

ONE THING.

DIRECT DEMOCRACY.

>> THEY THROW ISSUES ON THE

BALLOTS AND PEOPLE VOTE FOR

THEM WITHOUT ACTUALLY KNOWING

WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE.

>> WE HEAR THAT DIRECT

DEMOCRACY IS ON WONDERFUL BUT

WHAT IF IT'S NOT.

>> Reporter: WITH JUST 500,000

SIGNATURES CALIFORNIANS CAN

PUT ANYTHING ON THE BALLOT

RIGHT PAST THE LEGISLATURE AND

MAKE IT LAW.

IT'S A DIFFICULT SYSTEM TO

UNDERSTAND UNTIL YOU TALK TO

STATE DEMOCRATIC CHAIRMAN JOHN

BURDEN.

>> IT'S TOTALLY (BEEP) UP.

IT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT

PEOPLE FROM THE SPECIAL

INTERESTS.

IT'S NOW BECOME A TOOL OF THE

SPECIAL INTERESTS TO SCREW THE

PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: I'M NOT SURE IT'S

NOT AS BAD AS YOU'RE SAYING.

>> IT'S GIVE YOU A REAL (BEEP)

EXAMPLE.

THE TEAM (BEEP) BECAUSE

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR

THE SCHOOL, NOT ENOUGH MONEY

FOR STATE SERVICES.

>> Reporter: HE'S TALKING

ABOUT PROPOSITION 13 WHICH

MANDATES THE PROPERTY TAXES

CANNOT BE RAISED MEANING THAT

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO

PAY FOR THINGS LIKE

PROPOSITION 98 WHICH MANDATES

THAT CALIFORNIANS DRAMATICALLY

INCREASE SPENDING ON

EDUCATION.

SO THE STATE PASSED A LAW

SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY

FOR THINGS THAT FE PASSED A

LAW REQUIRING THEMSELVES TO

PAY FOR.

>> PEOPLE SAY HOW COULD THIS

HAVE HAPPENED?

WELL, IT HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY

BOUGHT A BAG OF BULL (BEEP)

AND VOTED FOR IT.

>> Reporter: YOU CUSS MORE

THAN A WEST COAST RAPPER.

>> WHO?

>> Reporter: BUT CALIFORNIA

HAS A SOLUTION TO REDUCE ITS

$26 BILLION DEFICIT, A NEW LAW

REQUIRING ALL E-COMMERCE

COMPANIES LIKE AMAZON.COM TO

PAY STATE SALES TAX.

WHAT DID AMAZON DO?

>> AMAZON LAUNCHED AN

EXPENSIVE CAMPAIGN TO OVERTURN

THE LAW THROUGH A BALLOT

MEASURE.

>> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT

AMAZON.COM IS USING-- WHAT

ELSE? -- BUT DIRECT DEMOCRACY

PAYING FIRMS TO COLLECT NAMES

AT $3 PER SIGNATURE.

ITS DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST.

ACCORDING TO REPUBLICAN STATE

ASSEMBLYMAN TIM DONNELLY.

>> THIS IS FREEDOM.

FREEDOM TAKES ON MANY FORMS.

>> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU SAY

TO GO THE CRITICISMS THAT THIS

IS BEING HIJACKED AS A PROCESS

BY MAJOR COMPANIES?

>> IN THIS CASE THE LITTLE

GUYS ARE STANDING ON AMAZON'S

SHOULDERS.

THEY'RE SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE JUST WANT TO BREATHE SOME

FREE AIR.

>> Reporter: THAT'S NOT

OVERSTATING IT?

>> NO.

I NEVER OVERSTATE IT.

THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY

ILLEGAL TAXES.

THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO

PAY ILLEGAL TAXES THAT WILL BE

USED TO SUBSIDIZE ILLEGALS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING

WRONG WITH THAT.

>> Reporter: HOW CAN YOU GET

AN AMAZON SALES TAX BACK TO

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

>> IN I CAN TIE ANYTHING TO

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

>> Reporter: WHAT IF I WERE TO

SUGGEST AN INITIATIVE THAT MAY

31 SHOULD FOREVER BE REFERRED

TO AS TIM DONNELLY IS AN

(BEEP) DAY?

I MEAN, I WOULD NEED 500,000

SIGNATURES.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE

THAT HARD IN THIS STATE.

>> Reporter: I THINK THAT'S

PROBABLY TRUE.

IT SEEMS A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY

THAT AMAZON WILL BE PAYING NO

SALES TAX IN CALIFORNIA NEXT

YEAR.

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE BE HAPPY WITH

THIS VICTORY FOR THE BIG

LITTLE MAN?

>> THE (BEEP) SHOULD AMAZON

ESCAPE WHAT WE'RE SHUTTING

DOWN SCHOOLS, SHUTTING DOWN

HOSPITALS, FIRING TEACHERS AND

COPS AND FIREMEN, SCREWING

MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE BECAUSE

THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A GOD-

DAMNED SALES TACK LIKE

EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> Reporter: IT'S THE AMERICAN

DREAM.

YOU WORK HARD.

YOU MAKE BILLIONS AND THEN YOU

CAN HAVE A VOICE.

>> YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.

>> Reporter: IT'S WHAT THIS

COUNTRY IS BUILT ON.

>> MY DAUGHTER GAVE ME A

KINDLE FOR MY BIRTHDAY

PRESENT.

AND I WILL NOT USE IT BECAUSE

OF THESE GOD-DAMNED PEOPLE AT

AMAZON.

I GO TO MY BOOKSTORE AND BUY A

GOD-DAMNED BOOK AND READ IT.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

I CAN READ IT TAKING A CRAP AS

OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT A KINDLE

OR A COMPUTER TAKING A CRAP.

>> Reporter: OKAY.

CLEARLY THE DIRECT DEMOCRACY

SYSTEM IS SLIGHTLY FLAWED BUT

HOW DO YOU FIX IT?

>> YOU COULD FIX IT SEVERAL

WAYS.

TO QUALIFY AN INITIATIVE THE

STATUTORY INITIATIVE IS 5% OF

THOSE WHO VOTED AT THE LAST

GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION.

>> Reporter: HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

THE ONLY WAY TO STOP 500,000

SIGNATURES FORCING LEGISLATION

THROUGH IS TO GET 500,000

SIGNATURES TO STOP IT?

>> EXACTLY.

(BEEP).

>> Reporter: IT SEEMS ONLY

CALIFORNIA VOTERS CAN SAVE

THEMSELVES FROM THEMSELVES.

WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN

SIGNING AN INITIATIVE TO ASK

PEOPLE TO STOP BEING ASKED FOR

SIGNATURES?

>> YES.

>> Reporter: YOU'RE AGAINST

DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE

DOING NOW, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> Reporter: THERE'S NO NICE

WAY OF SAYING THIS.

CALIFORNIA IS... WHAT'S THE

WORD?

>> (BEEP).

>> Reporter: EXACTLY.

>> Jon: JOHN O

>> Jon: MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A

PHOTOGRAPHER.

HIS PHOTOS FROM HIS MANY TRIPS

TO IRAQ ARE DISPLAYED IN HIS

NEW BOOK, IRAQ PERSPECTIVES.

PLEASE WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM

BEN LOWY.

( APPLAUSE )

SO THIS IS A SELECTION OF OR A

COLLECTION OF PHOTOGRAPHS FROM

IRAQ FROM THE YEARS....

>> 2003 TO 2008.

>> Jon: HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU

GO TO IRAQ TO COLLECT THESE

PHOTOGRAPHS THROUGH THOSE

YEARS?

>> WAY TOO MANY.

MORE THAN MY WIFE WOULD HAVE

LIKED.

>> Jon: THAT MANY TIMES.

LET ME TELL YOU HOW THIS

HAPPENED.

SO WE DID THIS ROLLING STONE

PIECE.

THEY SAID, OH, WE'RE GOING TO

SEND OVER THIS PHOTOGRAPHER.

HE'S JUST GOING TO HANG OUT

WITH YOU GUYS FOR A DAY AND

TAKE SOME PICTURES.

WE THOUGHT, OKAY, WE'LL ROUGH

HIM UP A LITTLE BIT.

THIS GUY SHOWS UP.

WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE THIS?

WHERE WAS IT?

>> LIBYA.

>> Jon: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> I GET AROUND.

>> Jon: YOU GET AROUND.

SO WE GO, WHO ARE YOU?

IT TURNS OUT YOU HAVE BEEN

TRAVELING TO THESE... YOU'RE A

PHOTOGRAPHER THAT TRAVELS TO

THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES IN

THE WORLD.

>> THOSE AND OTHER PLACES.

I MEAN I'VE DONE MY SHARE.

I'VE DONE THE SPORTS

ILLUSTRATED SWIM SUIT SHOOT.

>> Jon: DID YOU TAKE ANY

SHRAPNEL THERE?

>> IT WASN'T NECESSARILY

SHRAPNEL.

>> Jon: THEY TELL ME IT'S VERY

DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO STAND

SOMETIMES IN THE POOLS OF

WATER ARE NOT AS WARM AS YOU

WOULD THINK.

>> IT CAN BE TOUGH WITH THE

LIGHT AND THE SUNTAN LOTION,

YEAH.

>> Jon: I UNDERSTAND.

TELL ME WHAT... I JUST WANT TO

SHOW SOME OF THESE.

THE SELECTION OF PICTURES...

THESE ARE ALL THROUGH HUMVEE

WINDOWS.

CAN YOU CUT TO THAT?

DO WE HAVE ONE?

IT'S THROUGH A HUMVEE WINDOW.

THE ORANGE POST-IT IS NOT

ACTUALLY PART OF THE BOOK.

>> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

>> Jon: IS THAT CENTRAL PARK

IN BAGHDAD?

WHAT IS THAT?

>> THAT IS ACTUALLY A

RESIDENCY BUILDING FOR LIKE

THE BASICALLY THE MINISTRY OF

PRISONS AND INTERIOR WHERE

LAWYERS AND INVESTIGATORS LIVE

BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

IMAGES I MADE WHEN I THOUGHT

OF THIS IDEA OF PHOTOGRAPHING

IRAQ THROUGH HUMVEE WINDOWS.

BUT IT'S AMAZING THAT WHEN YOU

LOOK AROUND IRAQ AT THE TIME

IT'S ALL WIRE.

ALL THIS FREEDOM WE SAY WE

BROUGHT TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE.

AT THE SAME TIME THE PEOPLE

PASSED A LAW IN THEIR COUNTRY

TO HIDE BEHIND THESE GLASS

WALLS.

>> Jon: THAT'S INTERESTING.

WERE THE IRAQIS RESENTFUL OF

THE BLAST WALLS AND THOSE THAT

WERE AROUND THEM?

>> NOT THE GUY WHO HAS THE

CONTRACT TO MAKE THE BLAST

WALLS.

ACTUALLY DIRECTLY BEHIND

THAT... I DID HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE

CAR AND GO TO THE OTHER SIDE.

RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

BLAST WALLS WAS LIKE A SWING

SET.

WHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIDS

WERE PLAYING BECAUSE PEOPLE

LIVE THERE.

>> Jon: IT'S INTERESTING

BECAUSE YOU WERE TELLING ME...

WHEN I WENT TO AFGHANISTAN, I

WENT SURROUNDED BY MILITARY

PERSONNEL WITH GUNS.

I WAS WEARING A FLAK JACKET.

I ASKED YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU

SAID YOU WERE GOING TO

AFGHANISTAN.

HOW ARE YOU GETTING THERE?

IT WAS LIKE I'M WALKING.

LIKE IT WAS SOME CRAZY....

>> AFGHANISTAN IS A DIFFERENT,

SORT OF A DIFFERENT BALLGAME.

AFTER SO MANY YEARS IN IRAQ

EMBEDDING WITH U.S. SOLDIERS

THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE

WORKED IN AFGHANISTAN I'VE

NEVER BEEN WITH U.S. SOLDIERS.

I JUST KIND OF GO ON MY OWN.

IT'S A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE TO

SEE IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

I WOULD SAY IN AFGHANISTAN

IT'S A LOT EASIER TO WORK ON

THE STREET OR WITH AFGHANS

WITHOUT THE PROTECTION OF

NATO.

>> Jon: REALLY?

>> I GREW UP IN NEW YORK IN

THE '80s.

>> Jon: THAT'S NOT THE SAME

THING.

I LIVED HERE IN THE '0s.

HAVING A GUY TRY TO SELL YOU

SOMETHING BY THE PARK IS NOT

THE SAME AS BEING IN

AFGHANISTAN.

LOOK AT THIS.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE FROM

IRAQ THAT I WANTED TO SHOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET

THAT.

IT'S A WOMAN... THE THING I

THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING HERE

IS NOT THE EGGS BUT RIGHT NOW

TO HER.

THAT WHITE BLOCK.

WHAT IS THAT?

>> THAT IS ICE.

IT WAS SORT OF AMAZING.

I ENDED UP RESEARCHING IT.

THERE ISN'T A LOT OF

ELECTRICITY IN IRAQ.

SOME IN BAGHDAD.

MAYBE FOUR HOURS A DAY.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FREEZERS.

YOU HAVE TO GO BUY YOUR ICE.

FROM A STORE.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY FACTORIES

FOR MAKING ICE THAT PEOPLE GO

GET A SLICE OF.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT

USED TO IN THE WEST THAT WE

DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT WAS REALLY REVEALING.

>> Jon: I PUSH A CUP INTO MY

REFRIGERATOR.

WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK, I

CURSE THE HEAVENS.

DID YOU SEE IMPROVEMENT DURING

YOUR TIME THERE?

DID YOU SEE THINGS CHANGE?

>> DEFINITELY THINGS CHANGED.

I MEAN, THE 2004 TO 2007 WAS

HELLISH.

BUT THEN IN 2008 THINGS, YOU

KNOW, WERE STARTING TO GET

BETTER.

>> Jon: YOU KEPT GOING.

>> YEAH.

>> Jon: BECAUSE YOU'RE NUTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

>> THAT I'M NUTS?

>> Jon: YEAH.

>> MY WIFE THINKS SO.

>> Jon: LOOK AT THIS ONE.

THIS IS THROUGH THE NIGHT

VISION.

THAT'S A GENTLEMAN WHO I

BELIEVE IS JUST SAYING, OH, MY

GOSH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE

GOING TO TAKE MY PICTURE.

I WOULD HAVE SHOWERED.

>> WELL, I WAS WITH A UNIT

GOING OUT BASICALLY WHEN THE

SUNNI AWAKENING BEGAN AS THE

ORGANIZATION LIKE, THEY

BASICALLY USED INFORMANTS.

AT SOME POINT THESE GUYS WOULD

GO OUT WITH U.S. SOLDIERS AND

SAY WE KNOW WHO THE BAD GUYS

ARE.

THEY WOULD PICK OUT PEOPLE IN

DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS IS SOUTH OF BAGHDAD.

THEY WENT OUT TO A RAID TO

DIFFERENT VILLAGES.

THEY WOULD BE JUST LIKE, OH,

THAT GUY, HE LIKES AL QAEDA.

I THINK THEY WERE JUST TRYING

TO SELL THEMSELVES.

THIS IS A GUY WHO IS JUST

BASICALLY SLEEPING IN A

MECHANIC'S SHOP OUTSIDE.

IT WAS 120 DEGREES DURING THE

DAY.

MOST PEOPLE SLEEP OUTSIDE AT

NIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S NO

ELECTRICITY FOR AIR

CONDITIONING.

THEY JUST WOKE HIM UP AND JUST

ARRESTED HIM.

HE'S JUST TOTALLY SLEEPING.

>> Jon: YOU'RE JUST BEHIND

THEM WITH A CAMERA LIKE

(SNAPPING) DO YOU HAVE A

FLASH?

>> NO.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE

NIGHT VISION.

>> Jon: NOW TO BE FAIR TO YOUR

WIFE WHO YOU KEEP SAYING, WHAT

DOES YOUR WIFE DO FOR A LIVE

SOMETHING.

>> SAME THING.

>> Jon: IRAQ PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT YOU DO IS UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU KNOW THAT.

YOU KNOW HOW ANGRY WE WERE

WITH YOU THAT WHOLE DAY.

HE WAS JUST HANGING OUT WITH

US AND THE WHOLE TIME HE WAS

JUST TAKING PICTURES GOING,

"THESE GUYS ARE SUCH PUSSIES."

>> I DID IT FOR THE SCHWAG.

I REALLY LIKE THE BARBECUE

COLOGNE.

>> Jon: (LAUGHING) THERE'S

MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

IRAQ PERSPECTIVES ON THE BOOK

SHELVES NOW.

WHAT IS THE NEXT PLACE YOU'RE

TRAVEL TO GO.

>> TO HAITI IN A COUPLE OF

DAYS.

>> Jon: A VACATION.

TROPICAL.

YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME.

IT'S NICE.

TAKING THE WIFE?

BEN LOWY.

>> Jon: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT AT

11:00.

HERE IT IS YOUR MOMENT OF ZEN.

>> THEY HAD THE HUNGRY MUPPET,

THE STARVING MUPPET.

YOU LOOK OUT THERE.

WE HAVE MEDICAID, A RECORD

NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON FOOD

STAMP.

WE HAVE S-CHIP.

WE HAVE W.I.C.C.

THERE'S ALL THESE PROGRAMS OUT

THERE TO TAKE CARE OF HUNGRY

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